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Old January 28th, 2013, 09:35 PM   #4501
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1. Burj Khalifa was build by a JV of Samsung, Arabtec, BESIX. BESIX is a JV between UAE's Belhasaa aand Belgium's Six Construct. Guess who owns Six Construct in Belgium

2. Orascom has subcontracted work to Chinese construction companies, a common practice

3. When Orascom went there and got the deal, Emaar's Chairman (the company that built Burj Khalifa), was also there to struck a mining deal for a company he controls on the side.
Please see special report by CNN on South Korea and Samsung Engineering Constructors leading the engineering and contruction of Burj Khalifa Hotel with Samsung engineers and local contruction workers working at the site. Samsung won huge contract for the this project without much competition, because of Samsung knowledge on the super skycrapers.

You can see the report here.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS...a.dubai.tower/
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Old January 28th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #4502
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That picture makes the antenna on top of that apartment building look like scaffolding on the Ryugyong.
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Old January 30th, 2013, 02:45 AM   #4503
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Extremely interesting skyscraper reminds me of Dallas for some reason....but this is prob one of the best examples of monumental architecture
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Old January 30th, 2013, 02:54 AM   #4504
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There's a glassy pointed building in Dallas, probably that's why
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Old January 30th, 2013, 09:57 AM   #4505
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It is a building totally our of step with the rest of the city, both in external appearance and scale. Add to that its totally unique style and it sticks out like a sore thumb - subtle it isn't.

None of the above is a criticism though. As far as the style and appearance go, I think this building is stunning. I do have doubts about it's true nature of course, which is a pity, but it looks stunning.

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Old January 30th, 2013, 02:06 PM   #4506
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Interesting: according to the new google maps of NK, there is a metro station at the entrance to this building. i wonder whether it is being integrated into the ryugyong?
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Old January 31st, 2013, 12:41 AM   #4507
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Please see special report by CNN on South Korea and Samsung Engineering Constructors leading the engineering and contruction of Burj Khalifa Hotel with Samsung engineers and local contruction workers working at the site. Samsung won huge contract for the this project without much competition, because of Samsung knowledge on the super skycrapers.

You can see the report here.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS...a.dubai.tower/
O RLY?


This is what I was doing 7 & 1/2 years back (June 4th, 2005)

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What were you up to?
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Old January 31st, 2013, 05:18 PM   #4508
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This is what I was doing 7 & 1/2 years back (June 4th, 2005)

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Samsung has on record of building Super Skysrapers around the world and reputation as tech leaders in Engineering Construction, Shipyard, Electronic, etc.... But if Orascam builds the next Super Skysrapers around the world, that is fine with me.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:57 PM   #4509
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You sound like a PR bot machine, lol. Can you sound and speak more human please?
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Old February 1st, 2013, 07:11 AM   #4510
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I wonder what seismic value this tower has? Will it with stand a powerful earthquake like Chinese or American towers can?
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Old February 1st, 2013, 07:19 AM   #4511
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what makes you doubt so?
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Old February 1st, 2013, 01:23 PM   #4512
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You can't compare the earthquake proofness of buildings built on places with different levels of sismic activities history and risks.

Having said that, we don't know how sismically-safe the building is for the risks expected there.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 02:03 PM   #4513
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Apparently there is a a historical record of earthquakes in korea from the distant past but none in recent times.
One thing is for sure if a big one does ever strike there I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that building, given the state the concrete was in in those pictures kanye posted.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:51 PM   #4514
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That shows how much you know .... you can't judge the status of the concrete by photographs. No matter how crooked it might look, it says nothing about it's strength and of the overall structure.

It's just cosmetic, nothing else.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 05:32 PM   #4515
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All we can see is cosmetic. The years of rain, freezing cycles, and neglect may cause the rebar inside the concrete to be rusting. In that case (only theory and opinion) the building is rotting from the inside out just like a neglected bridge. It may last 1000 years, it may last 50. I think they could keep chipping away and repairing the concrete that shows signs of a problem, if they didn't just cover it up and ignore it. Who really knows.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 05:48 PM   #4516
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That shows how much you know .... you can't judge the status of the concrete by photographs. No matter how crooked it might look, it says nothing about it's strength and of the overall structure.

It's just cosmetic, nothing else.
And what qualifications do you have to be able to judge that Oh I know, you've seen supertalls being built, so you're an expert on all aspects.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 08:59 PM   #4517
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All we can see is cosmetic. The years of rain, freezing cycles, and neglect may cause the rebar inside the concrete to be rusting. In that case (only theory and opinion) the building is rotting from the inside out just like a neglected bridge. It may last 1000 years, it may last 50. I think they could keep chipping away and repairing the concrete that shows signs of a problem, if they didn't just cover it up and ignore it. Who really knows.
And that's why I said to the dude above, that a picture is worthless
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Old February 1st, 2013, 11:43 PM   #4518
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I never claimed to be a structural engineer (I am a Engineer though, of a different field, but not like your technicians with elementary school that you call enginners, a real one). However, I do have a vast observation experience on the issue, and I do hear opinions and testimony from experts on the issue.

Whaat do you have? Nothing of the above, except a town house that iis even more dangerous in case of earthquakes, then the big tower in this thread would ever be.

Yeas, it's a mater of physics, shock waves and amplifying resonances .... if you understand a word i say
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Old February 2nd, 2013, 01:35 AM   #4519
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Best looking and best skyscraper design end of.... shame they built it the way they did.
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That shows how much you know .... you can't judge the status of the concrete by photographs. No matter how crooked it might look, it says nothing about it's strength and of the overall structure.

It's just cosmetic, nothing else.
These are the words you said mush.
You tell a guy you can't judge from photos, then you pass judgement anyway.
How do you know what I have or haven't? Are you phsychic?
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