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Old March 16th, 2013, 02:04 AM   #4641
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I'm glad this tower is in the middle of such a huge plot of land. That means no future towers can ever be built that close to it and ruin its dominance.
Just like North Korea says it dominates the world. That's right, think outside the box. lolz
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Old March 16th, 2013, 03:01 AM   #4642
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I believe the Kempinski deal will be cancelled.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 03:06 AM   #4643
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The 'war' threat is most likely publicity stunt by Kim Jong Un so I doubt it will be cancelled.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 03:11 AM   #4644
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The 'war' threat is most likely publicity stunt by Kim Jong Un so I doubt it will be cancelled.
The threats are in protest of the South Korean-American drills.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 03:12 AM   #4645
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The 'war' threat is most likely publicity stunt by Kim Jong Un so I doubt it will be cancelled.
Dennis Rodmen said, Kim Jong Un is a great guy.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 03:22 AM   #4646
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IDK how new these are but I don't think they were posted



(link for bigger picture)https://thejohnfleming.files.wordpre...angpyramid.jpg

http://jungbug.wordpress.com/2012/04...-korea-part-1/
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Old March 16th, 2013, 05:07 AM   #4647
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Dennis Rodmen said, Kim Jong Un is a great guy.
We all know Dennis Rodman said that with tongue-in-cheek. To me it is more of propaganda of an outlook with the gathering at hand to cheer the young leader up.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 06:00 AM   #4648
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I found the original rendering
[img]http://oi48.************/aauqo5.jpg[/img]
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 03:28 AM   #4649
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 03:29 AM   #4650
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Looks great there!
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 03:38 AM   #4651
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nice view
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 03:41 AM   #4652
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Other photo from the top:

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Old March 23rd, 2013, 02:55 PM   #4653
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Looks like this?
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 04:18 PM   #4654
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Not really...you only post that because it's also in a communist country.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:01 AM   #4655
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Hello, im an architect student and now i have to do a study about concrete structures and i have chosen this hotel as it has some of the things i have to talk about ; rehabilitation and concrete structure.

I have looked for some construction pics ( 1987-1992) but i have found none of them.. is there any type of scheme or i dont know a grafic a picture or something where the structure is explained?

thx to all !
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:19 AM   #4656
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Yup
Info on the structure:
http://www.iitk.ac.in/nicee/wcee/art..._vol5_2789.pdf


[img]http://i49.************/zlbrbd_th.jpg[/img]


Contrary to what most think of this building, Orascom, the concrete/construction company that completed it, said they found no major problems with the concrete or structure.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:38 AM   #4657
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Good News! It would be a pity for the building to have structural issues and endanger citizens. Plus it would be a waste of such a beautiful cladding.


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Relax. It looks good that way, and not all polluted with McDonald's wrappers like in America.
Lolz. On the other hand, north koreans have no problem staying skinny. But I'm not sure it is caused by the lack of McDonald's, unfortunately. Continue to stick to stereotypes and in life you will go...nowhere.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #4658
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Is it already operated?
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Hello, im an architect student and now i have to do a study about concrete structures and i have chosen this hotel as it has some of the things i have to talk about ; rehabilitation and concrete structure.

I have looked for some construction pics ( 1987-1992) but i have found none of them.. is there any type of scheme or i dont know a grafic a picture or something where the structure is explained?

thx to all !
Search for my posts in this thread; I did similar academic research. A few years ago, more than a hundred pages ago, I posted some impressive before-vs-after photo linking to existing flickr content of tourists who took telephoto photos over the years. Most of the concrete degradation on the exterior was clearly fixed before cladding. No interior photos exist; but evidence showed that Orascom knew what they were doing.

I am still interested at what they did to resolve the crooked elevator shaft problem; that is still unknown. However, tourists rode to the top of tower without problems. Might want to ask them. It may be a tube-within-tube design, and other well-tested technologies.
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Search for my posts in this thread; I did similar academic research. A few years ago, more than a hundred pages ago, I posted some impressive before-vs-after photo linking to existing flickr content of tourists who took telephoto photos over the years. Most of the concrete degradation on the exterior was clearly fixed before cladding. No interior photos exist; but evidence showed that Orascom knew what they were doing.

I am still interested at what they did to resolve the crooked elevator shaft problem; that is still unknown. However, tourists rode to the top of tower without problems. Might want to ask them. It may be a tube-within-tube design, and other well-tested technologies.
My take is that the crooked elevator shaft problem was mostly anti-NK propaganda. It is pretty much impossible for a shaft to be too crooked to use.

For example, train tracks aren't perfectly straight but yet trains still exist. Buildings sway sometimes multiple feet at the top, and yet there are still elevator shafts. Elevators are retrofit into buildings that are hundreds of years old and they still work. The Eiffel Tower has elevators that change orientation many degrees. So does the Gateway Arch in St. Louis, and that must be "crooked" by a few hundred feet. Old wooden roller coasters are rickety and bumpy but still work. Etc.

Worst case scenario is shimming the guides in few inches, using a smaller car, and possibly decreasing the speed a little. The engineering fix is simple and inexpensive. But I too am eager to learn the specifics.
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