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Old April 24th, 2013, 02:41 PM   #4841
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Old April 24th, 2013, 04:56 PM   #4842
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Old April 25th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #4843
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So who's going to operate the hotel?
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Old April 25th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #4845
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are there any pictures from the inside?
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Old April 25th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #4846
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Absolutely surrealistic building in one of Asia's poorest states...
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Old April 25th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #4847
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I wish that in New York we had designs this innovative and cladding this good. The cladding on this is soooo good it almost doesn't look real.

Congrats N. Korea on an excellent building.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 10:48 PM   #4848
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I wish that in New York we had designs this innovative and cladding this good. The cladding on this is soooo good it almost doesn't look real.

Congrats N. Korea on an excellent building.
It is indeed a very beautiful building. Would love to see some interior soon...
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:14 PM   #4849
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There were some pics from the interiors but they're a bit outdated.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #4850
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Looking at that cityscape, it struck me as quite odd how such a big and dense city not has a single billboard in sight.

Also wondering what Pyongyang would look like if a reunification ever were to happen (peacefully). It would be in for one mother of a renovation job, and the outcome would be quite interesting to see. Perhaps it would gradually become like Seoul, with modern buildings rising up, year for year overtaking the old communist buildings? Or would it turn out like Murmansk, with most of the population moving south as soon as they were allowed to? Or like Kabul, where people move from the countryside to the capital by the millions, because that's where all the jobs and infrastructure are?
I've often wondered this too. It would be good if in such an event that the downtown area of Pyongyang was declared a heritage zone, and be renovated, but have the original style protected, complete with the lack of billboards. It is one of the few near-pristine examples of Soviet town planning (Pyongyang was rebuilt after the war with Soviet technical and financial aid). Pyongyang as it exists today is very distinctive and unique, and is a one of kind example of a city embodying a social idea in a very literal way.

I doubt that would happen though as I imagine South Korea would very keen on erasing as much as possible of N. Korean history. I imagine most of the monuments and signs would be destroyed, along with emblematic buildings such as May Day stadium, the International Friendship Exhibition etc.

Sadly, the airport terminal, which is frozen in the early Kruschev era, right down to the departures board and analogue flip clock, would probably go as well, rather than be restored in original style. It'd actually make a good space for a museum of the DPRK era.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:45 PM   #4851
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So who's going to operate the hotel?
Someone who doesn't mind taking a big loss. The Yanggakdo usually only has a few floors (out of 47) actually operating. I have no idea what this place is actually going to be used for.

The whole (resumed) project is weird. Orascom only really took it on as they wanted the telecom contract to build a mobile phone network for the city. The NK government probably just wanted the thing to look finished, and isn't worried about using it. I understand that at one point there was talk about just completing the exterior, getting the structure weather-proof, and leaving the interior until later, as there was no real need for the space anymore.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 03:34 AM   #4852
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Indeed, the surrealism and the overall chilling elegance of this structure really makes it high above others in terms of architecture. Who cares what the bigots think.

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Old April 27th, 2013, 07:00 AM   #4853
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Wowwwww beautiful building

I wish this building will move to Kuala Lumpur just kidding
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Old April 27th, 2013, 07:33 AM   #4854
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For a tyrannical dictatorship they sure did put up a nice looking building. Can't say the same for the other commie towers though. Some of those high rises don't even look structurally sound.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 12:07 PM   #4855
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Pyongyang looks beautiful and the building is just amazing!
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Old April 28th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #4856
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Old April 28th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #4857
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Very strange building.
I can't say i love it or hate it but its look very futuristic for this poor country.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 09:45 AM   #4858
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Yep the country is poor, but the city doesn't seems to be stuck in the past, it looks quite nice to me, prettier than the average cities IMO.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 01:04 PM   #4859
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Where is this picture taken from? Is there an observation tower in that area, or was the photographer really given a helicopter tour over Pyongyang?
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Old April 29th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #4860
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For a tyrannical dictatorship they sure did put up a nice looking building. Can't say the same for the other commie towers though. Some of those high rises don't even look structurally sound.
Most of Pyong yang was built using a modular appraoch of pre-fabricated sections joined on site the Soviets used for post-war stupply of housing stock in 50s. Most of those blocks are still standing and in use today so they are pretty good design. Pyongyang's problems aren't construction, but maintenance.

From what I've seen a lot of the city there seems to be a lot of effort to keep things tidy and well swept (stuff you can do with muscle power and brush), but it's obvious that more intensive maintenance (even things like repainting) are lacking.

It wouldn't take much more than some Dulux to make Pyongyang a very handsome city indeed (actually, since the mid 00s, there does seem to be a deliberate effort to this end), but no one ever saw off the evil imperialists with a spanking fine paint job and a planting theme for the green spaces
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