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Old October 12th, 2009, 05:16 PM   #821
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If this is true, Pyongyang will be a very interesting city to watch in the coming 3 years!

N. Korea building new housing districts in Pyongyang: report



By Tony Chang
SEOUL, Oct. 12 (Yonhap) -- North Korea is carrying out a major urban development project in Pyongyang with the goal of providing some 100,000 new houses by 2012, a pro-Pyongyang newspaper based in Tokyo reported Monday.

The year 2012 marks the birth centennial of the country's founder, Kim Il-sung, and the year when his son and current leader Kim Jong-il turns 70. Pyongyang has declared a goal of building a "great, prosperous and powerful" nation by then.

The Chosun Sinbo, which usually conveys Pyongyang's views, described the housing construction as an "unprecedented national project" and a "core project" in the country's campaign looking to 2012.

The paper reported that the North was in the process of building 65,000 new houses in the city's western district of Mangyeongdae, where Kim Il-sung's birth home is located, 15,000 houses in central Pyongyang and 20,000 houses along the railroad spanning between the southern district of Ryokpo and Ryongsong district in the capital's northern region.

Each home will be approximately 100 square meters in size, according to the report.

The North Korean capital, despite a strict control on the entry of people from rural areas, has reportedly been going through a major housing shortage. The paper said that the completion of the housing project will solve the problem plaguing the citizens of Pyongyang.

In the past, Pyongyang has built 50,000 new apartments each in the 1980s and the 1990s.

In 2001, North Korea sought to develop a satellite city of some 1 million households near the Mangyeongdae district, but failed due to the nation's economic woes.

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Old October 12th, 2009, 06:33 PM   #822
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eventhough this is not the right thread to post this article, it's a really interesting one
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Old October 12th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #823
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They could be turning the Ryugyong from a hotel into an apartment building. That would house a lot of people.

If 100m2 is about 1100 sq ft. that would be about 2 average to large sized hotel rooms? Anyone care to guess how big the rooms are in the Ryugyong?
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Old October 12th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #824
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That's a good point. The hotel would have 3,000 rooms. If they convert it to an apartment building or a mix of hotel/apartment building, it could mean some 1,000+ homes.
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Old October 12th, 2009, 10:08 PM   #825
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Ryugyong is back again?! Why am I not surprised. one of the most popular buildings on SSC it appears
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Old October 13th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #826
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and the poor homeless people living in usa cant acces this site, and the 2 millon people in usa prisons cant either

good bye
Oh yes, comparing the US to North Korea

how bout a reality check...
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Old October 13th, 2009, 10:39 PM   #827
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Will it be a Ritz-Carlton or a Four Seasons?
Please tell me that you're kidding?
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Old October 14th, 2009, 04:28 PM   #828
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2nd side:

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Flickr, Magnus Falk.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:44 PM   #829
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where did you find these pics?
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Old October 14th, 2009, 06:29 PM   #830
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The structure at the top looks fantastic I think.

Cannot wait till it's all clad, regardless of what goes on inside it'll still look great.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 06:36 PM   #831
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where did you find these pics?
Flickr, like he says.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 07:02 PM   #832
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I think you can actually see some workers on these pics.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 08:21 PM   #833
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Yikes, check out the shadow of the balcony section in the last pic.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 08:23 PM   #834
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It looks like the BMU is working. (lol)
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Old October 14th, 2009, 08:33 PM   #835
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The structure at the top looks fantastic I think.

Cannot wait till it's all clad, regardless of what goes on inside it'll still look great.
Exactly the way the future was imagined in the 70s...
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Look how poor the quality of the concrete structure seems at the bottom of the revolving restaurants...
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Old October 14th, 2009, 08:45 PM   #837
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Cannot wait till it's all clad, regardless of what goes on inside it'll still look great.
Exactly. Regardless the inside it will be one of the most iconic skyscrapers ever.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 04:16 AM   #838
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First significant earthquake and this embarrassment is coming down.
that would be one hell of an earth quake.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:17 AM   #839
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From BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8306697.stm


Will 'Hotel of Doom' ever be finished?



Infamously ugly and unfinished, the shell of the Ryugyong Hotel dominates North Korea's capital Pyongyang. But work on the skyscraper began again last summer after a 16-year hiatus, and as the company behind it tells the BBC's Matthew Davis, an end may finally be in sight.
A three-sided pyramid with walls that jag upwards at 75 degrees, capped by a series of concentric rings, the Ryugyong Hotel was described by one magazine simply as "the worst building in the history of mankind".
Other names that have stuck down the years include: "The Hotel of Doom" and "The Phantom Hotel" - references to the fact that for the best part of two decades, all work on the 105-storey skyscraper was halted as North Korea's economy nosedived.

Conceived as a grandiose projection of emerging wealth, the hotel instead became a symbol of North Korea's hubris and of the self-isolated state's failing financial system.

Work began in 1987 and continued for six years until funding ran out.
Economic mismanagement and natural disasters had left the country with huge food shortages and a moribund economy, and for the next 16 years, completing the Ryugyong - literally 'Capital of Willows' - became a low priority.
For all that time, a rusting crane on the tip of the unfinished building was a reminder of the totalitarian state's thwarted ambition.
Once, mocked-up images of a finished Ryugyong appeared on national stamps, yet it was now being airbrushed from official photographs.
But to the amazement of North Korea-watchers - and presumably to Pyongyang's three million-strong populace, the massive project stirred back to life in mid-2008, as the most visible manifestation of a city-wide "beautification scheme".

'Rumours flying around'
In the past year, workers have been busy at theatres, hotels and apartment blocks across the capital. Tram lines have been ripped up and replaced, the facades of buildings torn down and reconstructed.

At the Ryugyong itself, an army of labourers has been fixing gleaming glass panels, covering the grey concrete on two sides of the skyscraper and the rings that crown it.
"There has been a very visible increase in building work all over the city, and at the Ryugyong especially," says Simon Cockerell, of Koryo Tours, a firm specializing in taking tourists to North Korea.
"The hotel is a source of fascination for everyone who comes here. You can't actually visit it - but there are a lot of rumours flying around town about it."
The urgency of the construction work stems from the fast-approaching date of 15 April, 2012 - the 100th anniversary of the birth of Kim Il Sung, North Korea's "Eternal President" and father of current leader Kim Jong-Il, who led the nation from its founding in 1948 until his death in 1994.

The authorities want Pyongyang to look like a modern, thrusting capital city, even if the superficial improvements are only a mask. While North Korean officials have spoken of a "need to modernize" - the country is still as isolated and impoverished as ever.

'A great symbol'
The company charged with finishing the Ryugyong is Orascom Telecom, part of an Egyptian conglomerate that took on the rebuilding work - "in partnership with a local firm" - as part of a $400m deal to build and run a 3G mobile phone network in North Korea.

Dozens of Egyptian engineers and some 2,000 local workers are working on the Ryugyong project, which Orascom's chief operating officer, Khaled Bichara, tells the BBC is "progressing well", despite reported problems with suspect concrete and misaligned lift shafts.
"There have been no issues that have caused us too much trouble," Mr Bichara says. "Most of the work at the moment is coverage of different areas of the building. The first job is to finish the outside - you can't work on the insides until the outside is covered.
"You can see that we have already completed the top of the building where the revolving restaurants will be. After 2010, that's when it will be fully safe to start building from the inside."
How the building will be divided up is "not yet finalized" the company says, but it will be a mixture of hotel accommodation, apartments and business facilities. Antennae and equipment for Orascom's mobile network will nestle at the very top.
Mr Bichara denies reports that the company's exclusive access to North Korea's fledgling telecoms market is directly linked to the completion of the hotel.
But he says the job is a way of planting a rather tall flag in the ground. "We haven't been given a deadline, we are not tied into doing it by a certain time," he said.
"But when you work in a market like this, where we cannot sponsor things, a project of this kind is good to do - it's word of mouth advertising for us, it builds good rapport with the people - on its own it's a great symbol, one which cements our investment."


Wealthy elite
Orascom specializes in emerging markets - it has 79 million mobile subscribers across the Middle East, Africa and South Asia - but is clearly playing a long game in North Korea.
Mobile phones cost several time the average monthly wage of about $100 and are by default restricted to a wealthy elite - notwithstanding any other restrictions the state chooses to impose.
Just 48,000 have so far signed up to Orascom's Koryolink network.
North Korea's command economy and policy of isolation make international trade difficult, so whether there will ever be enough tourists and enough business to make the Ryugyong Hotel viable is also open to question.
Some analysts believe that within 10 years, the country may experience enough political and economic reform to allow it take advantage of the vibrant economies that surround it - China, South Korea, and nearby Japan.
But whether it stands incomplete, as a shell covered by a gleaming facade, or bustling with commerce, the domineering 'Hotel of Doom' is certain to remain a potent symbol of North Korea's fate for many years to come.




So.... judging from this article, which at least in part seems to be based on what the Orascom guys were telling BBC, it seems that after all they ARE seriously planning to complete it in some way. That seems like a good news!

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Old October 15th, 2009, 06:21 AM   #840
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^That is spectacular to read! And, it's probably the most concrete information we've yet gotten on the whole project.
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