PYONGYANG | Ryugyong Hotel | 330m | 1083ft | 105 fl | T/O - Page 5

mediadave · December 19th, 2008, 05:35 PM

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Will this be like the other skyscrapers in Pyongyang that are empty because of construction problems? Just for propaganda?

Honestly, where do all you people hear this stuff?

SpaceScraper · December 19th, 2008, 06:12 PM

While we are all speculating without facts, let me add my opinion. Until I see more than only cladding staged on the site, the is just putting lipstick on a pig.

***christos-greece*** · December 19th, 2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZimasterX

[IMG]http://i42.************/2ebbvgy.jpg[/IMG]

Now looks better

hamp405 · December 19th, 2008, 06:31 PM

i am curious how old that rendering is...it looks like it was done in the 70's on ms paint. there are other tall buildings around as if this was their vision when the actual building was to be completed when it was supposed to. if the completion of this building is a new project wouldn't they have posted a better more realistic rendering??

or is it the type of rendering the commie's wanted posted?

Auxodium · December 19th, 2008, 06:33 PM

ooo now i want to see if any people who have been to there have taken more photos

sundrop74 · December 19th, 2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DamienK

Great pic! This is how it's meant to look after completion:

image hosted on flickr

If it turns out looking anything close to this, it will be incredibly gorgeous!

I'm also wondering if what we're seeing in the final skin or something else. The render doesn't show holes cut out for the windows like we're seeing in the real photos.

ska.pre · December 19th, 2008, 07:09 PM

but in north korea is no turist ,why then will be this hotel for?

Swiddle · December 19th, 2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sundrop74

If it turns out looking anything close to this, it will be incredibly gorgeous!

I'm also wondering if what we're seeing in the final skin or something else. The render doesn't show holes cut out for the windows like we're seeing in the real photos.

The cladding looks very similar to the render to me. They are putting the windows in last. Once the windows are in, they are virtually indistinguishable from the rest of the cladding. Look at the most recent photos.

DinoVabec · December 19th, 2008, 07:10 PM

To attract turists?

pedro_sousa · December 19th, 2008, 07:24 PM

Is true that this hotel is already 25 years "in progress"?

Peloso · December 19th, 2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kingsc

damn this thing looks older then the empire state building. how safe is this building really, the concert has to be over ten years old.

Man if that's a problem then I'm done for, the concrete in my house is over 50 years old!

2co2co · December 19th, 2008, 08:09 PM

Wow... this building attracts a lot of attention.

JC_Zwolle · December 19th, 2008, 08:17 PM

Amazing they're finally finishing this structure! But shouldn't status be changed to T/O?

ZZ-II · December 19th, 2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by l'eau

OMG
cladding is very fast.

probably the fastest cladding i've ever seen

NoAllegiance · December 19th, 2008, 08:31 PM

Im going to join in with the crowd that says "I like this building's design," and "Wow, that cladding is going up amazingly fast," as well as those that say "I can't wait for it to be done, because the render looks great with all that glass."

Imre · December 19th, 2008, 08:38 PM

anybody can see this forum in North Korea? If yes , please write something

from http://ryugyonghotel.com/:

The construction of the 330 m tall tower in Pyongyang, North Korea began in 1987. It has a total 360,000 m² (3.9 million ft²) floor space and 105 stories. The building should have been opened in 1989, by that time it could have been the tallest hotel in the world and the 7th largest skyscraper. North Korea have spent ~$750 million or 2% of the country's GDP on the Ryugyong Hotel. The hotel was designed to have 3,000 rooms, 7 revolving restaurants, casinos(!), nightclubs(!) and Japanese lounges. In 1989 -the original completion date- they had several construction method and material problems therefore the opening was delayed, but in 1992 the construction came to a complete halt due to funding problems, electricity shortages, and the prevailing famine.

In 2006 the hotel was still not finished (it had reached its full structural height though) and left alone with a crane on the top. The building is completely empty, there is no facade on the tower either. The Ryugyong Hotel with the current structure will never be opened. The Government of North Korea was trying to find new investors to build a new structure, they would need ~$300 million for this. The tower is still by far the tallest in Pyongyang (the capital city) and in the whole of North Korea.

2008 Update: After 16 years Ryugyong Hotel is starting to get back to life. Egypt's Orascom group has recently begun refurbishing the top floors of the tower. The company has put glass panels into the concrete shell and installed telecommunications antennas. South Korean estimations say that it would cost $2 billion to finish the hotel and make it safe, that is the same as 10% annual GDP of North Korea.

***Chad*** · December 19th, 2008, 08:48 PM

and What on earth is Orascom doing there anyway.

***AltinD*** · December 19th, 2008, 09:23 PM

Controlling a virgin mobile phone territory that in a decade might have millions of subscribers.

renovatio · December 19th, 2008, 09:43 PM

The cladding isn't going up fast... the first picture is a couple of months old.

Assemblage23 · December 19th, 2008, 10:12 PM

So this building has resumed construction lately, but we don't know for how long already, right?

This will be very interesting to witness, but I'm guessing the flow of information will be very limited.

December 19th, 2008, 06:33 PM	#85
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December 19th, 2008, 08:17 PM	#93
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December 19th, 2008, 08:31 PM	#95
NoAllegiance Allegiance Aint What I Do Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hartford Posts: 103 Likes (Received): 0	Im going to join in with the crowd that says "I like this building's design," and "Wow, that cladding is going up amazingly fast," as well as those that say "I can't wait for it to be done, because the render looks great with all that glass." __________________ "There are new sights in the sky. Twenty years ago, when one gazed at the heavens, one would see the stars, the moon, the sun, clouds and an occasional comet or two. Now, however, here in the streets of New York City, a few neighbors have moved in. These are made, not of gasses nor water nor dust, but of steel and stone and concrete. These neighbors are not carved by the hands of nature, but by the hands of men. These neighbors are buildings that scrape the sky." -1930's quote, author unknown.

December 19th, 2008, 08:38 PM	#96
Imre Dubai Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 41,370 Likes (Received): 77	anybody can see this forum in North Korea? If yes , please write something from http://ryugyonghotel.com/: The construction of the 330 m tall tower in Pyongyang, North Korea began in 1987. It has a total 360,000 m² (3.9 million ft²) floor space and 105 stories. The building should have been opened in 1989, by that time it could have been the tallest hotel in the world and the 7th largest skyscraper. North Korea have spent ~$750 million or 2% of the country's GDP on the Ryugyong Hotel. The hotel was designed to have 3,000 rooms, 7 revolving restaurants, casinos(!), nightclubs(!) and Japanese lounges. In 1989 -the original completion date- they had several construction method and material problems therefore the opening was delayed, but in 1992 the construction came to a complete halt due to funding problems, electricity shortages, and the prevailing famine. In 2006 the hotel was still not finished (it had reached its full structural height though) and left alone with a crane on the top. The building is completely empty, there is no facade on the tower either. The Ryugyong Hotel with the current structure will never be opened. The Government of North Korea was trying to find new investors to build a new structure, they would need ~$300 million for this. The tower is still by far the tallest in Pyongyang (the capital city) and in the whole of North Korea. 2008 Update: After 16 years Ryugyong Hotel is starting to get back to life. Egypt's Orascom group has recently begun refurbishing the top floors of the tower. The company has put glass panels into the concrete shell and installed telecommunications antennas. South Korean estimations say that it would cost $2 billion to finish the hotel and make it safe, that is the same as 10% annual GDP of North Korea. __________________ Dubai Construction Update Dubai photos by Imre Solt

December 19th, 2008, 06:12 PM	#82
SpaceScraper SpaceScraper Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 160 Likes (Received): 0	While we are all speculating without facts, let me add my opinion. Until I see more than only cladding staged on the site, the is just putting lipstick on a pig.

December 19th, 2008, 06:31 PM	#84
hamp405 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7 Likes (Received): 0	i am curious how old that rendering is...it looks like it was done in the 70's on ms paint. there are other tall buildings around as if this was their vision when the actual building was to be completed when it was supposed to. if the completion of this building is a new project wouldn't they have posted a better more realistic rendering?? or is it the type of rendering the commie's wanted posted?

December 19th, 2008, 07:09 PM	#87
ska.pre Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 915 Likes (Received): 14	but in north korea is no turist ,why then will be this hotel for?

December 19th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#90
pedro_sousa BANNED Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lisbon (Portugal) Posts: 389 Likes (Received): 0	Is true that this hotel is already 25 years "in progress"?

December 19th, 2008, 08:09 PM	#92
2co2co Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 383 Likes (Received): 9	Wow... this building attracts a lot of attention.

December 19th, 2008, 08:48 PM	#97
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December 19th, 2008, 09:43 PM	#99
renovatio Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 165 Likes (Received): 0	The cladding isn't going up fast... the first picture is a couple of months old. __________________ Bulgaria on SSC

December 19th, 2008, 10:12 PM	#100
Assemblage23 Übereinstimmend Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GDL Posts: 2,836 Likes (Received): 565	So this building has resumed construction lately, but we don't know for how long already, right? This will be very interesting to witness, but I'm guessing the flow of information will be very limited. __________________ Wichtige Änderungen beginnen immer mit ganz neuen Perspektiven. -

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