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Old December 31st, 2009, 07:39 PM   #1041
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construction started in 1987 and was going to be finish in 1989 so its started over 22 years ago not 16 years
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Old January 1st, 2010, 03:39 AM   #1042
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Happy New Year, Pyongyang!
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Old January 2nd, 2010, 01:00 AM   #1043
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Gotta love Pyongyang, Happy New Years!
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Old January 2nd, 2010, 08:27 PM   #1044
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WOW! I didn't even know that tower started construction again after years! I am glad they're going to finish it up! I like how it is turning out so far.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 06:15 AM   #1045
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WOW! I didn't even know that tower started construction again after years! I am glad they're going to finish it up! I like how it is turning out so far.
Chances are that it's going to go on hold again for another 10 or so years.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 12:25 PM   #1046
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Chances are that it's going to go on hold again for another 10 or so years.
and thats based on what? Your dislikes on NK? Oh we are so lucky to have a reliable source on our forum!
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 10:19 PM   #1047
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 10:32 PM   #1048
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The city looks so calm and serene. Are the labor camps and death fields to the north or south?
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Old January 4th, 2010, 02:14 AM   #1049
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Northwest.

It is indeed a nice photo. Ryugyong, when completed will transform the appearance of the entire city. Keen to see the edges with some cladding.
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Old January 4th, 2010, 02:16 AM   #1050
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wow! Amazing photo. The city looks like a typical far East city during the 90s. I think Seoul is not that nice and clean and I could never believe this tower could be so nice during cladding process.
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Old January 4th, 2010, 02:34 AM   #1051
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Construction started 16 years ago, at that time there was more communism and so more potential tourists for them.
Why they finish it? Prestige! To show the world! To show its own people! and many more reasons.

And you might wonder, why did the Egyptians build pyramids? Why did the French build the eiffel tower? why did Dubai have to build an 800m Burj Dubai? You'll find the answers to be the same as to why NK builds this "hotel"!


Nor does NK and nor does the Ryugyong Hotel!
Sounds logical I don't really think people love communism, they are still really communistic and do you see the amount of tourists increase? Journalists are not even welcome in NK so let's say it's not attractive for the average tourist. It might be interesting for the average world explorer/traveler.

Edit: I actually realize that this post is kinda offtopic so I would appreciate it if most people just ignore it
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Old January 4th, 2010, 03:22 AM   #1053
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Holy crap! When did they start cladding this monster? I am absolutely dumbfounded! I just saw the thread from the mainpage and thought I'd check it out. WHAT A SURPRISE! Looks beautiful!
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Old January 4th, 2010, 03:34 AM   #1054
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Welcome to the club! I think they have started cladding during this year. Though they might had some cement improvements before cladding, and I think that's before 2009.
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Also notable in this pic is the new Mansudae Street.




Compared to a couple of years ago:

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Old January 4th, 2010, 04:09 AM   #1056
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wow! Indeed. It looks different Do you know when the last picture is taken? Which year? If it is 2005 for example, the did much work
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Yea the cladding looks definitely better than the ugly concrete.
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Old January 4th, 2010, 04:20 AM   #1058
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I think they made some improvements and reinforcements in the concrete. It was looking much better right before the cladding.
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Old January 4th, 2010, 08:49 AM   #1059
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Though they might had some cement improvements before cladding, and I think that's before 2009.
Might? They definitely did. I posted links to before-and-after photos as proof.

Sure, subject to debate is how much improvement the concrete got, but there is now unamious agreement that there is at least some improvement (one way or another, even skeptics claim "appearance wise" it still looked improved even if there is still debate on structural quality).

My belief is Orascom knows what they are doing -- it is quite the massive engineering challenge of renovating a large derelict exoskeleton, but concrete restoration techniques definitely does exist and at least appears to have been done on such a massive scale on Ryugyong. A "wait and see" is warranted.
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Old January 4th, 2010, 08:53 AM   #1060
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After the building's concrete structure hardened, it was discovered that elevators would not be able to operate in its poorly designed shafts. Now that the building is being finished, should there be any working elevators inside? The shafts may be one park of the construction project, and a skyscraper can't not have any elevators.
Simple -- they're simply installing a straight inner shaft tube inside the crooked shaft, and cutting some pieces of non-structural concrete where necessary (like trimming concrete edges that protrude into the shaft, etc). A tube within a tube, if you will. It may mean elevators may be 1 foot or 2 foot narrower than planned (but with elevator technology improvements, such as more compact weights, there might actually be no reduction in elevator room needed)

This is often done when retrofitting elevators into places where they never were designed to have elevators installed. Cliffsides, 19th century buildings, retrofits to old subway stations, and more. It is my assumption they are simply doing the same to Ryugyong: Adding a new shaft embedded within the space.

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