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Old September 17th, 2010, 11:32 PM   #1741
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Supercool shots! Thank You! It's seems they are covering it just to have some kind of a facade!
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Old September 18th, 2010, 01:40 AM   #1742
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Thank you Stevesteve

Really good Updates.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 02:01 AM   #1743
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Wow this is a fantastic shot, after visiting South Korea and DMZ last year I thought about going to the North, a lot of progress has been made on this building!
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Old September 18th, 2010, 02:29 AM   #1744
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Pictures taken between 7 sept 2010 - 11 sept 2010.
Thanks for the fantastic pictures. Is it too much to ask for your flickr album? I'd like to see more from your trip. Thanks!
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Old September 18th, 2010, 04:09 AM   #1745
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wow thats some great stuff looks like its going to launch a missile or a lazer out of its top to destroy the world lol
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Old September 18th, 2010, 11:47 AM   #1746
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OMG, i just noticed something amazing...the crane, after i think 40 yrs or something the crane is gone. i thought it'd never come down, its such a piece of the buildings history. OMG. also i love the cladding. i'd like to see this one sometime but i don't really want to go to north korea, nothing ther other than this tower really appeals to me. is it possible to go from seoul on a day trip through to pyongyang? if so it would make a nice trip. if passports and stuff were allowed can u go from one to the other cause i thought they were at war so idk.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 06:54 PM   #1747
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For some reason I think this building would look nice on Las Vegas Strip.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 09:16 PM   #1748
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Oke, one offtopic reply to some of your questions. If you have further questions, send private message...

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@stevesteve: How did you go? Did you take a group tour with Koryo Tours, or did you go with another travel agency? How did you get the visa? How did you arrange that trip? What were the costs?

I would be grateful if you could give me some information about the planning and organisation of that trip as well as some references.

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North Korea can only be reached by plane or train from Beijing, China (I read that for first time this year also some tourist are allowed from Russia, South Korea entrance is no option). We travelled through Russia, Mongolia and China, so this was a good opportunity to visit North Korea, because I didn't want to spend a main holiday for North Korea only. It was a fascinating experience, but 5 days is enough, because you don't have freedome of move.
I travelled with Korea Konsult, a Swedish organisation. They are cheaper then Koryo Tours. Koryo tours was at same date in North Korea. We had good times with them in the bar of the hotel ....But the trip is exactly the same, only Koryo Tours is more expensive. There also is a Czech organisation, who also offered the same tour, but we didn't see them in DPRK. They are cheaper, but I don't trust them and at the end they didn't manage to get people in DPRK, even in the most populair time of year (when I was there). There are more organisations, which are cheaper, but you lose a lot of time traveling with them and they count all the travellingdays as part of the total days. Korea Konsult was excellent, also with visa etc etc. We had a meeting before departure in Beijing.
The cost are high. For western tourist it's expensive, like around 1100 for 5 days (For comparison: we travelled 9 days in Mongolia for 320 euro). For that money, everything is included, so transport in and out DPRK, travel inside country, hotel, all food (not the beers in the bar at night, too bad, haha, and we had a lot of them....but it's cheap and they have 0.65L bottles). But as I said, you can arrange it cheaper, but you will get less program for that..
At the end there is just one travelorganisation and that is the stateowned one of the DPRK (forgot name), where every organisation has to book, but it's a bit hard to contact them directly by yourself. So in a way all the tours are the same. They decide what you will see, where you sleep and where you eat, and for sure that's all the same. On you tube, there is a documentary which I saw before my departure and which I viewed again today. I fell down my chair how similair my trip was. So for everybody everything is te same.
For those who are interested, the link to the first part of the documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oIu0...rev-rn-2r-7-HM
Let me know how you think about it.

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Thanks for the fantastic pictures. Is it too much to ask for your flickr album? I'd like to see more from your trip. Thanks!
At this moment, the posted photo's are the only one in my flickralbum, but when there are more a will send you a link.

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Old September 18th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #1749
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The hotel looks really huge and massive and it is not ugly at all!
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Old September 18th, 2010, 09:27 PM   #1750
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That people looks pretty sad
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Old September 19th, 2010, 01:48 AM   #1751
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That people looks pretty sad
why?
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Old September 19th, 2010, 02:06 AM   #1752
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Yeah you can see it on all the faces xD
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Old September 19th, 2010, 02:20 AM   #1753
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Does Pyongyang have a bad smog problem, or just a really cloudy climate? I don't think I've ever seen a picture of a clear, blue sky over the city.
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Old September 19th, 2010, 02:26 AM   #1754
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Yeah you can see it on all the faces xD
Especially the guy in the light blue shirt close to the black car looks pretty battered, he surely must be aware of the beauty of western democracy and of his own pitiful condition!
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Old September 19th, 2010, 02:58 AM   #1755
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That people looks pretty sad
Why would they be sad when their divine leader provides them with all they need. There is no sadness in the utopia of North Korea, only bliss brought on by the wonderful worker's paradise.

I still think it's ugly, but I really think it emphasizes the totalitarian nature of North Korea. It's a monstrous colossus, like the Ministry of Truth, rising above the communist flats as a symbol of power. It should be the new government building.
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Old September 19th, 2010, 03:11 AM   #1756
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Why would they be sad when their divine leader provides them with all they need. There is no sadness in the utopia of North Korea, only bliss brought on by the wonderful worker's paradise.

I still think it's ugly, but I really think it emphasizes the totalitarian nature of North Korea. It's a monstrous colossus, like the Ministry of Truth, rising above the communist flats as a symbol of power. It should be the new government building.
You're very smart. Now replace the words "North Korea" with "democracy", "worker's paradise" with "free market", and "communist" with "capitalist", and you can move your post to any "democratic" supertall thread.
P.s. I forgot, must also replace "divine leader" with "money".
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Old September 19th, 2010, 03:12 AM   #1757
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Why would they be sad when their divine leader provides them with all they need. There is no sadness in the utopia of North Korea, only bliss brought on by the wonderful worker's paradise.

I still think it's ugly, but I really think it emphasizes the totalitarian nature of North Korea. It's a monstrous colossus, like the Ministry of Truth, rising above the communist flats as a symbol of power. It should be the new government building.
They don't get internet in North Korea do they? They're just sad because they haven't experience the wonderment that is Skyscrapercity! (Plus the pornography, so much pornography!)
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Old September 19th, 2010, 04:06 AM   #1758
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That people looks pretty sad
When South Koreans used to travel North Korea (now the border is closed again), they found people in the north actually have no facial movements (or expressions).
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Old September 19th, 2010, 04:09 AM   #1759
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This is ridicolous! How can they be covering a rotten concrete structure with glass !! Surely it's very unsafe, isn't it?
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Old September 19th, 2010, 04:15 AM   #1760
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No shit, Sherlock. What do you think happens to concrete when it's left in the elements for two decades, it gets stronger?

I, for one, am finding this tower more intriguing as more glass appears. I don't know if it's in a good way or a bad way yet, but it's an interesting tower.
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