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Old October 2nd, 2010, 11:20 AM   #1881
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The fact that I was build with all the suffer of an entire nation doesn't affect the architectural beauty of this building.
Yes it does! That's the whole point.

How can something built upon the suffering of slaves be beautiful?

To divorce the construction of anything from the means of its construction is to divorce morality from actions. It's to say that the ends justify the means.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 11:25 AM   #1882
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It is not even beautiful, apart form the fact that it is build on the deaths of million Koreans.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 12:02 PM   #1883
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I see the recent permanent bans handed out by z0rg had zero impact on the level of stupidity in this thread.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 12:20 PM   #1884
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Possibly one of the most up-to-date shots by eomea6:

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Question: Is this camera angle showing the last side wings which are still undergoing major cladding works?
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 02:39 PM   #1885
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It is not even beautiful, apart form the fact that it is build on the deaths of million Koreans.
Millions of Koreans have not died because of this building This tower is made from the government money it makes from selling weapons such as missiles to Iran, ammunition and other stuff


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The fact that I was build with all the suffer of an entire nation doesn't affect the architectural beauty of this building.


Well said Despite all this North Korean hate and the bad regime; This Tower is an Architectural Masterpiece

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This tower is not amazing.

It's built upon the blood and suffering of the North Korean people.

The thought of skyscrapers should induce in us a feeling of human triumph, of the majesty of the mind and ability.

This building has been created at the expense of human lives. North Korea is a hellhole. People starve in North Korea. They are slaves to the regime. And this building is not a sign of progress but a cheap and nasty monument to propaganda.

I despise it and all that it stands for.

Once again no Human lives are lost.


The North Korean regime might be bad but the government still makes money from exports.


so can you please shut up from saying human lives have been lost while no human life has been lost because of this building. Yes North Korea does have problems but this Thread is not about discussing any political stuff about Nkorea but to admire this architectural beauty in the North Korea

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Old October 2nd, 2010, 02:45 PM   #1886
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Millions of Koreans have not died because of this building This tower is made from the government money it makes from selling weapons such as missiles to Iran, ammunition and other stuff
The bulk of this tower was built in the 1980s, before the collapse of the Soviet Union (NK's main trade partner (by far)) and the devastating 1996 floods. North Korea was far more well-off back then. The current redevelopment is financed by Orascom, not the NK government. So no, "selling weapons and stuff to Iran" isn't what's financing this tower now, and it wasn't what financed this tower during its main construction phase.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 04:04 PM   #1887
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How can something built upon the suffering of slaves be beautiful?
Beauty is morally neutral. Nuclear explosions are breathtakingly beautiful, for example.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 08:46 PM   #1888
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Vanzetti has a good point.

Not to mention that a lot of investment for the construction/repairs of this building comes from Orascom.

Please, unless you have personally been to North Korea or have some credible list of credentials backing your ridiculous statements regarding the nation, please do not make random assumptions.

Back on topic,
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/...f94dc3e3_b.jpg
Credit to paul_ark @ flickr.

I'm hoping that the reconstruction of the hotel will help the skyline look that much better. With a few more skyscrapers and urban rejuvenation, I think Pyongyang has a shot at becoming a beautiful city.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 08:47 PM   #1889
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I'm sorry, here's the actual image for those of you too lazy to click the url

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Old October 2nd, 2010, 08:52 PM   #1890
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wow,the city is so tidy and clean,nice~!
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 09:30 PM   #1891
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@WLager,

I agree. The city has some great potential.

Ryugyong Hotel sure makes some great contrast with the mountains in the background, doesn't it?
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 12:25 AM   #1892
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Excellent!

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Excellent photo! It is one of the cleanest cities I have ever seen. The air is really clean too, no smog.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 01:59 AM   #1893
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NK demonstrates how an epic fail can be so epic that it is already a win!
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 02:51 AM   #1894
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great skyline!
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 02:52 AM   #1895
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Why does everyone always remark on the lack of smog? Of course there's no smog because the people are too poor to afford cars! And of course the city is "neat and clean" because it's not a busy city. There's relatively little business there so why would it ever get dirty? What's far more impressive than a bland city where nothing ever happens and that has been planned out to the centimeter by the government, is a lived-in, bustling, productive metropolis that still somehow manages to remain clean. E.g. Tokyo.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 03:22 AM   #1896
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How can something built upon the suffering of slaves be beautiful?
Coutless egyptian, greek, roman and other ancient monuments and temples were built by slaves. As was the American White House.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 03:41 AM   #1897
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Is there any political / cultural reason for the blue roofs? they only seem to have appeared in the last couple of years.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 08:14 AM   #1898
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I always wondered about that. All the temporary workers' residences on Chinese construction sites have these deep blue roofs as well, is it some sort of colour of good luck in East Asia?
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 09:44 AM   #1899
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blue roofs are popular all over asia from south to east, probably just a matter of taste.
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Red is the colour of 'good-luck' in Asian culture (at least the Chinese one). Maybe the blue is used as distinguishing, probably referring to the concept of 'blue-collar'.
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