Rapid KL LRT - Line Extension

[allurban]

Originally Posted by tomkat

That would make the Ampang and Sentul sections too short.
Do they plan to extend these two sections further to the east and north, respectively?

there are some plans in the pipeline.

Ampang is tougher because they have to acquire the land but they could extend it as far as Melawati to link with the Kelana Jaya line.

Originally Posted by argory

...if it still bears any weight, the KL 2020 structure plan does show it extending and branching northwestwards.

http://www.dbkl.gov.my/pskl2020/images/figure_103.jpg

Would be good if it goes to Gombak instead (possibly along Jalan Gombak or the Gombak River itself...

A loop following the DUKE highway alignment is included in the KLCity 2020 Draft Local Plan, as well as a plan for a line to Selayang.

People are telling me that the Sentul line is ripe for an extension, either towards Kepong or Selayang - possibly terminating at Sg. Buloh.

I would prefer that they extend the LRT to Kepong then down through Petaling Jaya ... there is lots of space on Jalan Kepong for the LRT guideway.

KTM also has a plan to extend from Batu Caves to Selayang hospital

Either way this is very long term - maybe by 2020 they will consider it.

Cheers, m

[allurban]

Originally Posted by argory

Any reason why station 6 is called SS18 and not SS14?

hahahahhaha I wanted to make someone living in SS18 grumpy ... the station will be built right over Jalan Jengka but the larger entrance is on the SS18 side.

It would be nice if they could give it a better name. Right now Im liking "Subang Jaya Utara" for the station next to SS15 and "Subang Jaya Selatan" for SS18 :p

Cheers, m

[rizalhakim]

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/uploa...d=1#post369084

[rizalhakim]

imagine dis!!!

[dengilo]

My only hope they will bring down the cost !!They do not need supergeduper sci fi design stations keep it simple and practical.Making sure the park and ride stations have enough parking will be the main goal even if it has to be a multilevel structure.

[Johson]

Originally Posted by rizalhakim

imagine dis!!!

I thought Malaysia only has this type of problem .

[Dr Jake]

Originally Posted by dengilo

My only hope they will bring down the cost !!They do not need supergeduper sci fi design stations keep it simple and practical.Making sure the park and ride stations have enough parking will be the main goal even if it has to be a multilevel structure.

Yeah, like Dubai Metro. I read the Economist 9/12 edition talking about how the USD 7.6 billion investment will make a profit even after 5 years operation for which merely a quarter of Dubai population will use the service. For a small economy country like Malaysia, connectivity, practical and economical designs are much more preferrable.

[nazrey]

Originally Posted by dengilo

My only hope they will bring down the cost !!They do not need supergeduper sci fi design stations keep it simple and practical.Making sure the park and ride stations have enough parking will be the main goal even if it has to be a multilevel structure.

The high cost is not only build for supergeduper sci fi/park and ride design stations but for more efficient transport systems in the city that really will be the main goal ... Possibly that those sci fi station design would not high cost as we think plus SPNB should Provide Strong Economic Stimulus Via Good Infrastructure & Services too!

[nazrey]

Source: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...9&sec=business
Did you know harga pembinaan dulu adalah 10b RM for Klang Valley LRT sekarang ada di 7b RM!

[patchay]

i wish we could use the Dubai Metro train for our Ampang line... sexy looks

[nazrey]

Dubai metro train is also the same case with KL's ERL as well as new bangkok airport link ..It is Desiro from Siemens (German)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_Desiro
- http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1

[img]http://i40.************/vx2hbm.jpg[/img]

Dubai Metro
Taken from http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...367984&page=24
so can not run on Ampang line since Siemens's Desiro run on different standard rail gauge...correct me if I'm wrong!

[allurban]

Originally Posted by nazrey

Dubai metro train is also the same case with KL's ERL as well as new bangkok airport link ..It is Desiro from Siemens (German)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_Desiro
- http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1

[img]http://i40.************/vx2hbm.jpg[/img]

Dubai Metro
Taken from http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...367984&page=24
so can not run on Ampang line since Siemens's Desiro run on different standard rail gauge...

Ampang line uses standard gauge, what does the desiro use?

Actually if the difference is not too large is easy to regauge the wheels.

Am wondering what Prasarana is going to do to tender the 13 new trains for the Ampang Line.

Cheers, m

[nazrey]

Originally Posted by allurban

Am wondering what Prasarana is going to do to tender the 13 new trains for the Ampang Line.

Cheers, m

Wowww. so EXCITED!!!!

[nazrey]

Originally Posted by allurban

Ampang line uses standard gauge, what does the desiro use?

Tracks (ERL)
Width - 1435 mm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLIA_Ekspres

So what does the Ampang line use?

Originally Posted by allurban

Actually if the difference is not too large is easy to regauge the wheels.

Hmmmm..m...!

[nazrey]

Source: http://www.dor.gov.my/

[argory]

Originally Posted by allurban

hahahahhaha I wanted to make someone living in SS18 grumpy ... the station will be built right over Jalan Jengka but the larger entrance is on the SS18 side.

It would be nice if they could give it a better name. Right now Im liking "Subang Jaya Utara" for the station next to SS15 and "Subang Jaya Selatan" for SS18 :p

Cheers, m

SS14 is a lot more established (slightly bigger, older, more schools, shops, offices, etc). Yeah, but a neutral name would be best (Padang Asam?). I think SS15 should remain.

[allurban]

Originally Posted by nazrey

Tracks (ERL)
Width - 1435 mm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLIA_Ekspres

So what does the Ampang line use?

The Ampang line also uses 1435 mm width.

This should be an interesting tender. Hard to find a company that would want to build just 13 trains for the Ampang line ... so it is likely that these are going to be "off-the-shelf" train designs.

Whichever company enters the RFP will be more interested in selling trains for the Sg. Buloh - Cheras MRT ... possibly they will look at offering a similar design to reduce overall costs for Prasarana.

Whatever happens, the trains are probably going to look quite different from what we see on the Ampang line today.

Bombardier would probably have the "inside track" since they now control AdTranz (which is where the original trains come from) and have control over the Kelana Jaya line. Bombardier also has some good metro designs which can be used - the MOVIA for one.

Then there is Siemens, which is present in Malaysia with the Siemens Desiro trains used for the KLIA Express Rail Link. They have some narrower trains that might have an advantage given the tighter turns that a Malaysian MRT would have.

Also there would be ROTEM which has been selling KTM trains over the past few years. ROTEM would probably be a good source for lighter trains

Other companies like Alstom, Kinkisharyo, Hitachi & Kawasaki are unlikely to contend for the tender.

Cheers, m

[szehoong]

Insider info told me that Alstom is considering. And Siemens is definitely bidding.

My info comes from both companies and are a few months old so dunno still true or not hehe......

[Dr Jake]

I'm not sure about Sri Petaling line considering Adtranz has been acquired by Bombardier. But for Kelana Jaya line, Prasarana will stick to ART II rolling stocks (Bombardier).

[rizalhakim]

LRT extension a boon to construction sector
By DANNY YAP


PETALING JAYA: Analysts are generally more bullish on the construction sector since last week’s announcement that state transport firm Syarikat Prasarana Negara Bhd has been given the nod to extend the Kelana Jaya and Ampang light rail transit (LRT) lines, estimated to cost RM7bil.

A local analyst said the project would have significant and positive impact on the sector, create spin-offs to boost employment, besides helping to ease traffic congestion.

“The extension of the Kelana Jaya and Ampang LRT lines will also help increase the value of properties along the lines,” he told StarBiz.

He said it was not uncommon for properties within walking distance to the LRT stations to appreciate, but it also depended on the location.

“These properties located near LRT stations are definitely more easy to rent as people can opt for an alternative mode of transportation, to driving.”



He also said the extensions, slated to be completed in three years, would serve the transport needs of those living or working further from the Kuala Lumpur city centre, thereby easing congestion and improving transport efficiency.

At this moment, it is unclear whether Prasarana, a wholly-owned unit of Ministry of Finance Inc, will award the entire project to one company or a consortium of companies.

“Many leading construction companies are definitely eyeing a major slice of the cake,” the analyst said.

An analyst with OSK Research also concurred that the extension lines would help lift property prices, especially for properties near the stations.

He said prequalification tenders for the construction of the extension lines were expected to be called next month and contracts awarded only from early 2010.

“This, we reckon, is very timely as the estimated completion of the extension lines by early next decade will likely coincide with the expected boom in the mass to mid housing market, thus giving many of the townships along these upcoming LRT lines the leverage to ride on the next major upcycle,” he said.

The Kelana Jaya line would extend from the Kelana Jaya station to Subang Jaya and USJ, before ending in Putra Heights.

A total of 13 stations will be located along the 17km Kelana Jaya extension. There will also be an interchange at the existing KTM line located behind Carrefour in Subang Jaya.

The analyst said the extension would serve the densely populated and mature townships such as Subang Jaya and USJ.

“There is a sizeable student population within the enclave and its vicinity as it houses a number of colleges and universities, such as Taylor’s College, INTI College and Metropolitan College,” he said.

The analyst said the Ampang extension line would start from the existing Sri Petaling station, pass through Bandar Kinrara, Bandar Puchong Jaya and Bandar Puteri Puchong before ending in Putra Heights.

The 17.7km Ampang extension will also have 13 stations. Both the Kelana and Ampang extension lines will connect at an interchange in Putra Heights.

The OSK analyst said in contrast to the Kelana Jaya extension line, the Ampang line would pass through many new but fast growing townships in the south-east of the Klang Valley.

Foreign research house Credit Suisse said in its Sept 14 note that the rollout of this RM7bil project was the next major catalyst for upward re-rating of the construction sector in the country.