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Old February 21st, 2011, 08:00 PM   #521
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Sweet ice road photos Raba!
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Old February 21st, 2011, 08:09 PM   #522
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2010 traffic density report is up:
http://www.mnt.ee/index.php?id=10658

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Can you drive these ice roads at night?
No. Wikipedia lists all the limitations in english: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_road#Estonia
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Old February 21st, 2011, 08:31 PM   #523
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Kinda defeats the purpose of having an ice road, if the ferries operate year round.
No,it doesn't. In such harsh conditions ferry crossing can take up to 9h ('record' crossing between mainland & Hiiumaa island) or can be totally halted because of severe weather. In winter ferries are mainly used by trucks.

It's better to use the ice roads - they are free and relatively safe,when marked route is used.

Btw,ice road number 5 will be opened in 22nd or 23rd February.



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Old February 21st, 2011, 09:57 PM   #524
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Can you drive these ice roads at night?
No, you can't. At the moment, the official closing time for most ice roads is 17.30 i.e. sunset.
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 12:01 AM   #525
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No,it doesn't. In such harsh conditions ferry crossing can take up to 9h ('record' crossing between mainland & Hiiumaa island) or can be totally halted because of severe weather. In winter ferries are mainly used by trucks.

It's better to use the ice roads - they are free and relatively safe,when marked route is used.
Even according to the regular schedule, the journey time between mainland and Hiiumaa is 1.5 hours. And for more popular departures (Friday evening etc.), you better make a booking well in advance, or wait in the general queue and risk missing a ferry and having to wait an extra two hours.

So for the islanders, an ice road is a real blessing. At last, they can skip the usual hassle and just hop in their car whenever they need to run some errands on the mainland.
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 12:21 AM   #526
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2010 traffic density report is up:
http://www.mnt.ee/index.php?id=10658
Thanks for the link. I made some quick statistics, hopefully it's correct:

Highest AADT on 2x2 dual carriageways:
- 30317 - on T4 (E67), immediately after Tallinn town limits;
- 25560 - on T1 (E20) near Tallinn, between Väo and Saha-Loo intersections. The latter is being built into a grade-separated junction and the road widened to 2x3.

Lowest AADT on 2x2 dual carriageways:
- 3453 - Road T5 at the newly-opened Mäo interchange in central Estonia. That was quite a surprise for me.
- 5096 - T1 (E20) near Viitna

Highest AADT on 2x1 roads:
- 17059 - T2 in Tartu, at Lõunakeskus shopping mall;
- 15781 - Rannamõisa Road (T11390) in Tallinn. Yay for urban sprawl.
- 14864 - T11 Tallinn bypass, traffic from Jüri interchange to Jüri village
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 10:43 AM   #527
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Traffic density on T1/E20 has decreased quite significantly, possibly due to the large reconstruction works. AFAIK, in 2007, AADT at that point was around 33,000.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 10:50 AM   #528
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Driving video made last Monday. Driving from Kuressaare (Saaremaa) to Kuivastu harbour (Muhu). Video starts about halfway that road (road 10).

I'm not very happy about the quality, but I can't seem to find a proper codec to use in Sony Vegas. Now I used quicktime 3Mbps, but it's still a lot worse than the original.

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Old February 24th, 2011, 12:09 PM   #529
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Is just 33 000 the highest AADT in Estonia? When I was in Tallinn I saw jammed large roads.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 02:03 PM   #530
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Is just 33 000 the highest AADT in Estonia? When I was in Tallinn I saw jammed large roads.
Traffic densities within city limits are not taken into account. Estonian Road Administration is responsible only for national routes in rural areas.

BTW, where exactly did you drive? Traffic in Tallinn isn't really that bad but there are a couple of bottlenecks which can cause problems during rush hour.

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Driving video made last Monday. Driving from Kuressaare (Saaremaa) to Kuivastu harbour (Muhu). Video starts about halfway that road (road 10).
I love that road. It's in good condition, good road geometry, little traffic, lovely scenery, speed limit of 100km/h in the summer
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Old February 24th, 2011, 09:30 PM   #531
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Just FYI, there is at least one exception that I know — road T2 within the town of Tartu belongs to the national road network. But indeed, there are no such cases in Tallinn.

It would be interesting to know the traffic densities on Tallinn's roads; it's a pity this data has not been collected. But I believe there are several ones that get an AADT considerably higher than 33 000. The T4, Järvevana tee and Liivalaia tn. for sure.
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Old February 25th, 2011, 06:31 PM   #532
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As of today, all 6 ice roads are officially opened. That's 80km in total
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Old March 1st, 2011, 03:44 AM   #533
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Highest AADT on 2x1 roads:
- 17059 - T2 in Tartu, at Lounakeskus shopping mall;
- 15781 - Rannamoisa Road (T11390) in Tallinn. Yay for urban sprawl.
- 14864 - T11 Tallinn bypass, traffic from Juri interchange to Juri village
The 3rd one should be:
- 14899 - VIIMSI - RANDVERE (T11250). It has a 50km/h speed limit, so it is like an urban road.

T11 sections with high AADT will be reconstructed into 2x2 I class road by 2013.
T11390 2,6–5,0 km should become 2x2 road with roundabouts and 70km/h speed limit soon (by 2012 I think).
T2 Tartu eastern bypass has financial problems.

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Just FYI, there is at least one exception that I know — road T2 within the town of Tartu belongs to the national road network. But indeed, there are no such cases in Tallinn.
There are far more. The ones I can remember are: T1 in Sillamae, T5 in Paide, T11 in Tallinn, T4 (Partly) in Parnu.

The owner of the road is responsible for its maintenance, so local authorities are always happy to give away these roads. Here is an example: http://www.parnupostimees.ee/?id=382245

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It would be interesting to know the traffic densities on Tallinn's roads; it's a pity this data has not been collected. But I believe there are several ones that get an AADT considerably higher than 33 000. The T4, Järvevana tee and Liivalaia tn. for sure.
It is collected. But it is very hard to find. Some data from 2007:
Endla tn - 80 720
Järvevana tee - 69 620
Tammsaare tee - 62 100
Pärnu maantee – 51 420
Narva maantee - 49 910
Taken from here: http://www.tallinn.ee/g4169s38110
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Kinda defeats the purpose of having an ice road, if the ferries operate year round.

I was just curious, as in northern Canada, if the ice road was closed to all vehicles, the only transport option, is by air (Not a big deal for the City of Yellowknife, now that the first EVER bridge has opened across the MacKenzie [spelling?] River).
no, ice road is fun
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It is collected. But it is very hard to find. Some data from 2007:
Endla tn - 80 720
Järvevana tee - 69 620
Tammsaare tee - 62 100
Pärnu maantee – 51 420
Narva maantee - 49 910
Taken from here: http://www.tallinn.ee/g4169s38110
That's an interesting find and a very good source. Thanks!
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Old March 4th, 2011, 10:54 PM   #536
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Tallinn last weekend:

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The real fun is reserved for pedestrians -- waddling in half-melted slush, with the off chance of getting soaked from head to toe by an inconsiderate driver.
Myself, I try to do my best to avoid causing that

Edit -- The countryside looks much nicer, though:

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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:17 PM   #539
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Maanteeamet has apparently started tender for the Kroodi interchange, which is complementary to the currently under construction Loo-Maardu section.
There doesn't seem to be any plans available yet, but afaik it should look something like this.
Got my hands on the technical documentation for Kroodi interchange stage I construction. Here is the plan:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7...ikluskorra.png

The northern part, which didn't fit on the image above:


Only the interchange:


The construction of the new Kroodi interchange will require making some changes to Maardu interchange:
http://www.zshare.net/download/8774546377306af3/

I don't remember any plans for Vao interchange being published. So here it is:
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Nice, thanks. Some things I noticed:

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The top right loop seems somewhat superfluous, isn't it? Yes, it is definitely a more convenient path than taking the lower right ramp and navigating through the roundabout. But, strangely, that is what the signage suggests.
Probably the signage is just a mistake and the loop will also be incorporated in the traffic scheme.

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Um, the driver JUST exited the T94. Is it really necessary to complicate the signage and immediately show how to get back there?

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This must be Estonia's first fully two-lane interchange ramp, I guess. Or the one in the opposite direction (from E20 towards T94), is that a two-lane ramp as well?

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I am slightly unsure about such signage. What do you think, is it readable enough or is it overdesigned?
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