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Old July 22nd, 2011, 09:43 PM   #601
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today happend the first accident at the new Mäo interchange. A VW Passat making a left turn to Paide collided with a MAN truck wich was traveling towards Rakvere.
Link in estonian:http://www.jt.ee/507186/avarii-mao-l...-liiklusvoolu/
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 11:30 PM   #602
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* the second accident. If you ask me, this intersection is pretty much a failure when it comes to safety.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 02:09 PM   #603
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It was a different spot this time, but the basic scheme was the same: left turn across median.

I hope that the planners have made their conclusions and learned that if you choose to build an intersection of two dual carriageways, you can't just throw in a cheap diamond junction there.

Dual carriageway has median barriers; but these reduce visibility and make left turns more dangerous. In my opinion, this is one factor that contributed towards both accidents.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #604
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There was a discussion about turbo roundabouts in Lithuanian thread a while ago. This week I noticed that we do have a turbo roundabout in Estonia as well; in fact, even two of them.

Both are located on T9 in Uuemõisa, just before Haapsalu, on the stretch that was rebuilt last year. Unfortunately I don't have any photos and Google Maps does not have up-to-date imagery yet. Anyway, there are now three roundabouts in Uuemõisa and two of them are turbos.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 04:47 PM   #605
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I can take photos of them,when I'm heading to Haapsalu. Even now I've got few pics of new Uuemõisa roundabouts,but they hopelessly outdated (taken before construction ended in last year)
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Old July 24th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #606
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If you have the chance, that would be great!
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Old July 25th, 2011, 10:37 AM   #607
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Those roundabouts are quite ok, even though they're diameter maybe is a bit too small.

And I think you can kind of call Rocca Al Mare roundabout a "turbo" one as well, since the road markings are like that I think.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 09:29 PM   #608
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Um, the Rocca al Mare roundabout has concentric lanes, doesn't it? Then it isn't one; on a turbo roundabout, new lanes should appear in the center and swirl outwards. I believe that is not the case in Rocca al Mare.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 09:46 AM   #609
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Yeah true, but if I'm not mistaken there are some simple road markings that suggest a turbo roundabout.

But hell, I don't even own a car, so how should I know :p.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 11:08 PM   #610
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Um, the Rocca al Mare roundabout has concentric lanes, doesn't it? Then it isn't one; on a turbo roundabout, new lanes should appear in the center and swirl outwards. I believe that is not the case in Rocca al Mare.
If that's the case then the roundabout at Annelinn's edge in Tartu is also a turbo roundabout.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #611
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I might go and re-check Rocca al Mare, maybe indeed they have recently changed the lane markings.

This Annelinn roundabout definitely qualifies.
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Old July 27th, 2011, 09:17 PM   #612
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That roundabout in the picture is not a turbo roundabout. You can go around it.
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Old July 28th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #613
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That roundabout in the picture is not a turbo roundabout. You can go around it.
No, you cannot. It is difficult to see the lines in this photo but if you take the inner lane you will eventually have to exit the roundabout.
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Old August 4th, 2011, 07:51 PM   #614
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Today construction started on Haljala intersection
Today they started on the construction the of Haljala intersection
They are going to build 1,2km of 1st class Highway and new grade separated intersection.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 10:23 AM   #615
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Good news!

I see that the new E20 flyover in Maardu was opened to some traffic last Sunday. News item is here and the current traffic scheme for the whole construction site here.

BTW, to resolve an old issue — I checked Rocca al Mare, it is still an ordinary roundabout, not turbo. The inner lane goes round and round.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 09:44 PM   #616
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Some pictures on the progress of E20 Loo-Maardu roadworks!





1. Turning onto T1 / E20 from Tallinn bypass.



2. This is not roadworks yet; the bridge on river Pirita has always looked grimy and dilapidated and generally awful. Someone could at least reassemble the crash barrier, it has totally fallen apart.



3. Since, um, last November, I guess, all traffic has been diverted to the eastbound carriageway that already has new pavement.



4. Railway bridge. Below the railway bridge they are currently building a road tunnel, so technically this will be a 3-level interchange.



5. Loo intersection



6. New eastbound carriageway. It will be three lanes wide until next junction.



7. No temporary lane markings, though.



8. Since last Sunday, the flyover of Maardu junction has been open for traffic. This arrangement will prevail in the final traffic scheme as well; Maardu and Muuga traffic will exit here, onto the new T94.



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10. Let's take a look.



11. Wide open space and no markings yet.



12. On the flyover.



13. As I understand, the new T94 will continue straight on from here. Ahead, a flyover is already being built (see the sand hill). Currently, all traffic has been diverted to the right, onto a future sliproad.



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17. The other direction on T1 / E20—towards central Tallinn.



18. Roadworks start here, traffic is diverted on the other carriageway.



19. By the way—the new 2011 traffic code finally explains to general public what is the difference between blue and red branching point markers. (It has been a point of discussion here before; both styles have always been allowed, but without explanation.) Red one is used if at least one of the branches must be entered at a low speed, 50 km / h or less. Consequently, the blue sign is to be used only on high-speed junctions.



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21. The whole construction site seems to be one big liikluskorralduse muudatus all the time.



22. This is another notable new change: when arriving from this direction, Maardu and Muuga traffic must take a detour along a new local road to finally get onto the flyover.



23. Turning off here...



24. This is a new local road, running parallel to the main T1 / E20 carriageways.



25. Traffic towards Narva.



26. There is a noise barrier now as well.



27. When noise barrier ends, we see the main carriageways again. The road makes a small loop to get up onto the flyover...



28. One roundabout...



29. ...and here it is again.



30. After an indeterminate amount of loops and U-turns I am heading towards Tallinn again.



31. Here, westbound carriageway already has the pavement, too.



32. New crash barriers and lighting.



33. Back at the railway bridge and Loo intersection again.



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Old August 6th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #617
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Nice set!

I don't have a clue what liikluskorralduse muudatus means though.
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"A change in traffic arrangement".
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Old August 6th, 2011, 10:06 PM   #619
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Thanks for the thorough update!

I'm already wondering how the lane discipline will be on the 2x3 section since this will be the first highway in Estonia with more than 2 lanes per direction.
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I don't have a clue what liikluskorralduse muudatus means though.
Don't feel bad! About 4999 out of 5000 people can't read that sign. I spent 10 years in the Baltics and I couldn't figure it out.
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