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Old August 9th, 2011, 09:46 PM   #641
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And the ironic part is that nobody uses road numbers in Estonia They're even absent from news reports.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #642
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It is unlikely that a public habit of referring to road numbers would ever emerge, if even Road Administration avoids these like the plague. RA daily bulletins mention roads by their route description only.

Strange, because they are the ones paying for all the signage. With nice, prominently-featured road numbers.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 11:11 PM   #643
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Road numbers will increase in importance, because of their use in navigation systems. Road numbers are much easier to display and comprehend than long street names, especially if you combine the GPS with road signage. Road signs are much better to read (in advance) than street name signs. The same can be said about exit numbers I guess.

Every sizable country needs a numbering system. How do you know when there is a report about a traffic incident on "Tartu Road"? That could be on any road leading towards Tartu, especially since street names are usually far from unique.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 12:20 AM   #644
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They usually just say: 'There was a traffic accident on Tallinn-Tartu highway km...'
As Grisent mentioned, even on the Road Administration's web page they very rarely use road numbers in public announcements, mostly because ordinary people have no clue about road numbers. That's why it's a bit weird that on the newest signs they have gone mad with road numbers. There's even a directional sign in Tallinn that has only road numbers.

I know very few people that use a GPS in Estonia and even if they do, they follow the directions not road numbers. And there are no exit numbers in Estonia, simply because we have maybe 20km of limited-access highways all together.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #645
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The transit route through Tallinn that links T1 / T2 with downtown ferry terminal, has received a few signage upgrades this summer:










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Old August 12th, 2011, 01:35 AM   #646
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I'm sure that even with this signage some people still manage to get lost on their way to harbour

Imho huge,billboard-style road signs are bit overkill for urban area...

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I know very few people that use a GPS in Estonia and even if they do, they follow the directions not road numbers. And there are no exit numbers in Estonia, simply because we have maybe 20km of limited-access highways all together.
That's because for a long time there weren't any decent Estonian road maps for GPS. Only in recent years good GPS maps have started emerging and it takes time before GPS systems gain full popularity in Estonia.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #647
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This is simply great!
Tin_Can don't complain. Have you ever been in Poland? In my opinion we have a total massacre in road signs when it comes to layout information, the chaos of multicolored signs, clutter of unnecessary information. In my opinion we have the worst road marking system among all our neighbours except Russians.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 10:14 PM   #648
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What is this strange traffic light with 'S'(maybe "Stop"?)?

And "Attention!Ducks."?!
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Old August 12th, 2011, 10:23 PM   #649
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What is this strange traffic light with 'S'(maybe "Stop"?)?

And "Attention!Ducks."?!
Traffic lights only for busses and trams. And S means Stop. Look here.







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Old August 12th, 2011, 11:35 PM   #650
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I haven't seen a traffic light for both bus and trams. We have this only for trams:

But no special lights for buses.

So how does it work?
My guess:
Vertical line means go forward.
Arrow-follow the arrow.
S-Stop.

And what about horizontal dash?
-Stop?
-Get ready?
-Every direction you want?
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Old August 12th, 2011, 11:55 PM   #651
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I haven't seen a traffic light for both bus and trams. We have this only for trams:

But no special lights for buses.

So how does it work?
My guess:
Vertical line means go forward.
Arrow-follow the arrow.
S-Stop.

And what about horizontal dash?
-Stop?
-Get ready?
-Every direction you want?
Here you can see how they are working:

This one means the same like red. S means the same like red on a normal traffic light.





Here you can se red and horizontal dash means the same like red and yellow.





And here you can see this means the same like green





Only horizontal dash means the same like only yellow. And thats normal before it's red again.





I hope you understand this signals better now?
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Old August 13th, 2011, 12:39 AM   #652
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Thank you very much. So I was really close
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Old August 13th, 2011, 01:52 AM   #653
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And "Attention!Ducks."?!
We also have those :
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... "Squirrels!"
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In fact,those squirrel signs are close to duck signs (maybe about 1-2km from that junction on Grisent's photo) It actually makes sense,as on both sides of the road is a large park and occasionally small critters like to cross the road...
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Old August 13th, 2011, 09:47 AM   #654
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I guess there are fresh water lakes in those parks too, but have you seen a duck on the road?

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Old August 13th, 2011, 10:31 AM   #655
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Actually that's a sign for birds in general. The road is very close to the sea there and people like to feed swans in that location.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #656
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Liiapeksi - Loobu (E20) stretch will open this Monday!
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Old August 14th, 2011, 01:33 PM   #657
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Liiapeksi - Loobu (E20) stretch will open this Monday!
New stretch of 1st class highway?
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Old August 15th, 2011, 04:40 AM   #658
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Has anyone noticed that on small E67 section starting few km outside Tallinn border and ending with Kanama cloverleaf junction,has been repaved (again)?
So,right now E67 from Tallinn to Kanama has super smooth road surface...

And that over the previous years roadway lights have been installed until Kanama?
Although roadway lights aren't that uncommon,other road sections with them (E263,for example) don't have comparable road quality.
It makes you wonder...





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Anyway,few photos of U/C interchange just outside Risti borough borders in Läänemaa (about 30km from Haapsalu on T9,to be more precise - T9 kilometres 38,85-39,32) Deadline is in 7th November.

On direction heading to Haapsalu.
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On direction heading to Tallinn.
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Old August 15th, 2011, 10:44 AM   #659
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The last two weeks I've had a vacation and have been driving around 1500km in Estonia. Generally, road quality is good, roadworks progress nicely and some new stretches or interchanges are very time-saving.

But yesterday I encountered something very very stupid on the very recently (maybe anyone knows the exact date) opened interchange from road 93 to road 2/E20 near Kohtla-Järve.



I came from Kohtla-Järve, so I entered the map in the middle left. Then I followed signage to Tallinn, which took me to a right exit, then passing under the bridge right next to road 2 towards Tallinn, but then for no obvious reason at all, the road turns away again and you have to drive 500m and turn at a roundabout to get to the only ramp to the highway...

Why didn't they build a proper ramp at the location where you're right next to road 2?? What was the point of building all this new road?
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Old August 15th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #660
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New stretch of 1st class highway?
It's an old stretch of 2x2 highway that has now been reconstructed. I don't think that it's quite up to Ist class road standards, though.

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I made a small tour in Läänemaa on Saturday. Here's a few photos of it.

Route:http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ta...4&via=1,2&z=10

On T9, exiting Haapsalu.




The first of three roundabouts


The second roundabout, which a turbo roundabout.










Then we turned off to T17.




At Linnamäe we turned to T11230, Riguldi/Rickul-bound. This stretch is between Linnamäe and Riguldi. This area has bilingual signs for every village because until WW2, the majority of people here were Swedish-speaking.










This stretch is between Riguldi and Nõva.


The road quality is surprisingly good. The road atlas from 2008 that we used shows this road as a gravel road.






This stretch is between Nõva and Vihterpalu.


The road surface is even smoother than before but it lacks road markings.






After that it got a bit too dark to take decent photos.

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