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Old August 15th, 2011, 04:47 PM   #661
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I was in Haapsalu on this weekend too and took photos of those roundabouts in Uuemõisa and T9 between Haapsalu & Risti. I'll see when I can upload my pics..

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Liiapeksi - Loobu (E20) stretch will open this Monday!
Photos by Nordecon AS,©:
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[IMG]http://i53.************/29dz14y.jpg[/IMG]

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Oh,and they mentioned in news that Viitna bypass construction on E20 will drag on into next year Some troubles with local landowners...
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Old August 15th, 2011, 06:39 PM   #662
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Is it normal with black and white painted curbs in Estonia?
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Old August 16th, 2011, 02:36 AM   #663
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Why do they use broken lines (instead of solid) on the sides of the roads in Estonia (mostly in rural areas)? From what I saw most countries prefer the use of a solid line.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 06:23 PM   #664
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Is it normal with black and white painted curbs in Estonia?
Yes, black and white paint is used to draw more attention to traffic islands at intersections.


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Why do they use broken lines (instead of solid) on the sides of the roads in Estonia (mostly in rural areas)? From what I saw most countries prefer the use of a solid line.
Estonia uses both. They tend to use solid lines on the main highways and broken lines on smaller roads. I don't know why but probably because it's cheaper.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 07:12 PM   #665
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Estonia uses both. They tend to use solid lines on the main highways and broken lines on smaller roads. I don't know why but probably because it's cheaper.
In Lithuania you also can find such broken side lanes. I guess they aren't used as a cheaper way of paiting lines, but as far I as understand it is due to safety. When you drive on it you hear a noise and feel kind of vibration in steering wheel, so it helps if you fall asleep and drive on it.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 07:18 PM   #666
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But that wouldn't explain why they use solid lines on major highways.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:15 PM   #667
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In Lithuania you also can find such broken side lanes. I guess they aren't used as a cheaper way of paiting lines, but as far I as understand it is due to safety. When you drive on it you hear a noise and feel kind of vibration in steering wheel, so it helps if you fall asleep and drive on it.
The lines you mean can be seen on this recent picture:

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On main roads they use normal lines or these 'vibrating' lines. IMO the only reason why they use broken lines on secondary roads is to save money.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #668
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The last two weeks I've had a vacation and have been driving around 1500km in Estonia. Generally, road quality is good, roadworks progress nicely and some new stretches or interchanges are very time-saving.

But yesterday I encountered something very very stupid on the very recently (maybe anyone knows the exact date) opened interchange from road 93 to road 2/E20 near Kohtla-Järve.



I came from Kohtla-Järve, so I entered the map in the middle left. Then I followed signage to Tallinn, which took me to a right exit, then passing under the bridge right next to road 2 towards Tallinn, but then for no obvious reason at all, the road turns away again and you have to drive 500m and turn at a roundabout to get to the only ramp to the highway...

Why didn't they build a proper ramp at the location where you're right next to road 2?? What was the point of building all this new road?
Kohtla-Järve has two connections to E20. If you were travelling from Kohtla-Järve to Tallinn, you would actually take the one further west. This particular junction is anyway missing several ramps, and it is quite clearly supposed to only serve traffic arriving from east or departing eastwards.

As for why the missing access ramp from loop to E20 proper was not built, I have no idea, though. With the ramp there would be two simultaneous merges onto E20 — maybe this is considered bad engineering? But that doesn't seem an insurmountable problem to me.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 11:46 PM   #669
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Kohtla-Järve has two connections to E20.
It has 3 connections. There used to be a 4th (the old Tallinn - Narva highway section), but I am not sure you can still use it.

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As for why the missing access ramp from loop to E20 proper was not built, I have no idea, though. With the ramp there would be two simultaneous merges onto E20 — maybe this is considered bad engineering? But that doesn't seem an insurmountable problem to me.
As far as I know and remember, there hasn't been a left turn opportunity since the first day Kohtla-Jarve bypass was opened, except some gravel road between T93 and T1. In 1995 they have build a gas station with a paved road connecting both highways, but due to the mining tunnel collapse, it has been partly closed. So left turns on this particular intersection weren't that popular. Except for the locals, who now have a proper collector road network, there isn't a need for such ramp.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 07:53 AM   #670
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Few photos from last Saturday. Trip from Haapsalu to Risti along T9.

Part 1.

Starting from Uuemõisa in Haapsalu,first of three roundabouts on newly constructed section.

[IMG]http://i53.************/28c3dyd.jpg[/IMG]

..the second (turbo?) roundabout. Btw,I find it ridiculous that bike paths have been painted on this roundabout - one both sides of the road are light traffic roads and any cyclist with tiny bit of common sense chooses those instead of paths over busy and potentially more dangerous roundabout (trust me,traffic is a lot denser than you can see on those photos) Click on the photo for larger view.

[IMG]http://i56.************/2eq9v2p.jpg[/IMG]

..and the third one. This one is the oldest,constructed few years ago.
[IMG]http://i51.************/1zyhcu8.jpg[/IMG]

Moose alert!
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Brand new section of T9,constructed last year. One the left is light traffic road. Check out the peculiar style road sign posts - they seem to be getting quite common here in these days.
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Entering Taebla borough (pop.929)
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[IMG]http://i53.************/29mshfn.jpg[/IMG]
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Old August 18th, 2011, 08:12 AM   #671
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Trip from Haapsalu to Risti along T9.

Part 2.

T9 runs right through Taebla.
[IMG]http://i52.************/2evzz7n.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i54.************/t69jd4.jpg[/IMG]

Sign notifying about Nigula bridge (on T11230) being closed.
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[IMG]http://i54.************/2gwvwq0.jpg[/IMG]

Aren't such sideroads meant for truck weighting?
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Sound barrier of small farm.
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Getting close to Palivere borough. Unlike Taebla,it's slightly off the road,so there aren't any major speed limits on T9 here. The reason for this small incline on the road is (former) railway bridge. It's interesting that on both ends of the bridge are interchanges.
[IMG]http://i54.************/xga4aw.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i55.************/2z4h8au.jpg[/IMG]

On the bridge.
[IMG]http://i54.************/vgrfki.jpg[/IMG]
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Old August 18th, 2011, 08:32 AM   #672
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Trip from Haapsalu to Risti along T9.

Part 3.

Section from Palivere bridge to Risti,to the T9 & T10 interchange,is the oldest of Ääsmäe-Haapsalu highway (afaik,it's ~20+ years old) Apart from that,entire T9 is quite new and is built in various stages within last 10 years.
[IMG]http://i55.************/rw43sw.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i53.************/14sywy8.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i54.************/vhawwy.jpg[/IMG]

Just outside Risti borough (pop.622) is interchange of T9 & T10.
[IMG]http://i55.************/rjfjlz.jpg[/IMG]

Sligthly further ahead is U/C Risti junction.
[IMG]http://i56.************/120h40i.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i56.************/16m3b46.jpg[/IMG]

..And Läänemaa & Harjumaa border.
[IMG]http://i55.************/1fvc5f.jpg[/IMG]

You can see rest of the route to Tallinn (T9 & E 67) here,on my previous trip taken in spring: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...773706&page=29

Well,that's all.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 12:57 PM   #673
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..the second (turbo?) roundabout. Btw,I find it ridiculous that bike paths have been painted on this roundabout -
Yes, it's a turbo roundabout. I believe that these red strips are there just to indicate that you cannot switch lanes on that roundabout so in a way they act as mini traffic islands. While in many countries they use physical barriers at these points, it would make snow clearance very difficult.

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Aren't such sideroads meant for truck weighting?
You are correct. There's even a sign for that.
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Old August 19th, 2011, 08:16 AM   #674
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Few photos from last Saturday. Trip from Haapsalu to Risti along T9.
Great report, thanks!
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Very nice report! These renovated parts of T9 are a real joy to drive.

As for me, when driving on the T9 towards Tallinn, I am usually on the verge of falling asleep, having just gotten off either a very early or a very late ferry from Hiiumaa...
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Another big construction project gets a kickoff today: T2 dual-carriageway section between Aruvalla and Kose (kms 27-40). It will be built on a brand new alignment, so this year they are mostly going to work on clearing road corridor.

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Another big construction project gets a kickoff today: T2 dual-carriageway section between Aruvalla and Kose (kms 27-40). It will be built on a brand new alignment, so this year they are mostly going to work on clearing road corridor.

http://www.epl.ee/news/online/homses....d?id=56850130
It's about friggin' time! I hope everything proceeds smoothly from now on and there won't be any more delays.

Btw,which section of Tartu highway will be rebuilt next,once Aruvalla section is completed? Has Maanteeamet made any future plans?
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Another big construction project gets a kickoff today: T2 dual-carriageway section between Aruvalla and Kose (kms 27-40). It will be built on a brand new alignment, so this year they are mostly going to work on clearing road corridor.

http://www.epl.ee/news/online/homses....d?id=56850130
Are you sure? Because according to this leaflet: http://www.mnt.ee/failid/Voldik_EST_0803182.pdf , they will build one strip of the dual carriageway more or less on the current alignment and the other strip next to it.

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It's about friggin' time! I hope everything proceeds smoothly from now on and there won't be any more delays.

Btw,which section of Tartu highway will be rebuilt next,once Aruvalla section is completed? Has Maanteeamet made any future plans?
The next plan is to build the Kose-Mäo section. A pre-project should be pretty much done and Estonian Road Administration has given it a green light. The main issue is funding.

Kose-Mäo section would be built on a totally different path from the existing highway. Maps and plans can be found here: http://tartutee.ramboll.ee/index.php...d=17&Itemid=13
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Are you sure? Because according to this leaflet: http://www.mnt.ee/failid/Voldik_EST_0803182.pdf , they will build one strip of the dual carriageway more or less on the current alignment and the other strip next to it.
Right, my bad. Indeed, I mixed it up with Kose-Mäo (which *will* be on a different alignment) and hence misinterpreted the article where it talked about "clearing the road corridor"
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