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Old July 10th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #1001
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I don't know why in soviet times the USSR Government built a network of motorways in Lithuania and not in Estonia and Latvia.
Lithuanian SSR wanted roads. Latvian SSR wanted factories. I'm not sure what happened in Estonia.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #1002
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I might be wrong but when we look at the map then i think:

Lithuania has a good access to central Europe- that means with good roads the soviets could quickly deploy their military units towards Europe (also through Belarus). And that was a necessary thing in the cold war...

Secondly i have some of my own ideas about Lithuanian SSR and Russian SSR relations

EDIT: Estonia just wanted to sing and dance
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Old July 12th, 2013, 03:32 PM   #1003
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Looking at the map motorways in Lithuania are not connecting Europe with rest of former USSR. They are rather intended to connect Belarus/Minsk with ports in Lithuania and Riga in Latvia (in the future).
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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #1004
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In Soviet times, since the middle of 1970ies Lithuania was net receiver in the economy of USSR, while Latvia and Estonia were giving more than they received. Estonia had the most efficient economy.
Lithuanians invested heavily in infrastructure, and, what is even better, heads of Lithuanian Communist Party had very special relations with Russia. They managed to convince Russians that they themselves control Lithuania very well and outsiders are not much needed. This was not the case in Latvia and Estonia, who got obliging governors and loads of immigrants. Latvia got the worst case - after suppresed nationalist "coup d'etat" in our Communist Party in early 1960ies Latvia was seen as untrustable and there was heavy handed direct control from Moscow.
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Old July 13th, 2013, 05:11 PM   #1005
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Looking at the map motorways in Lithuania...
O yes, looking at the map Lithuania has motorways, but in real life they are just 2x2 highways with speed limit 130 kmph (110 kmph in winter).
The one part of the new expressway [A9] (~12 km long) much safer than both Lithuanian "motorways" [A1] and [A2].
There is example of [A9]:

Map: http://goo.gl/maps/iQ2B7
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Old July 13th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #1006
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Nevertheless, they are most motorway-like roads built during Soviet era.
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Old July 13th, 2013, 09:18 PM   #1007
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At least Lithuania has roads signposted with "motorway" signs.

However, they radiate from Vilnius and are not a good use to anyone going to Central Europe, unlike someone suggested.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #1008
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At least Lithuania has roads signposted with "motorway" signs.
Estonia has the same layout road [1], but without "motorway" sign (from 19:10):



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However, they radiate from Vilnius and are not a good use to anyone going to Central Europe, unlike someone suggested.
Vilnius has only one "motorway" [A2]... toward Riga.
Other "motorway" [A1] is from Kaunas to Klaipeda.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 01:13 PM   #1009
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Estonia has the same layout road [1], but without "motorway" sign (from 19:10):

Right, and there are roads like that from Tallinn towards Pärnu and Tartu as well (much shorter though).

Estonian regulations for motorways (as cited by Rebasepoiss) seem to be pretty strict, especially the AADT requirement of 40,000. Very few existing Finnish motorways exceed that.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 01:41 PM   #1010
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I don't see the point of a certain minimum level of traffic volume required to gain motorway status. There tens of thousands of kilometers of motorway in Europe with less than 40.000 vehicles per day. Motorway status is about traffic restrictions and design standards, not traffic volumes.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 03:19 PM   #1011
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I totally agree. As far as I know, no good explanation has been given as to why the required AADT is so high or why there is a certain requirement at all.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #1012
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The AADT is so high cause they know thatit'll never be that high so they don't have to build it because they couldn't keep up with the maintenance requirements
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Old July 28th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #1013
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Another Ülemiste intersection update by Tin_Can :
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Photo update of Ülemiste road junction construction.

Järvevana tee has got new asphalt between Veerenni interchange & Tartu mnt interchange. Majority of landscaping has also been finished on that section. Side streets still miss the final layer of pavement.
On Saturday (when I took those photos) workers were removing asphalt between Järvevana tee railway crossing & Veerenni interchange and were preparing for road reconstruction.

Bus stop at Järvevana tee,close to Veerenni tn. pedestrian tunnel.
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Tunnels look sooo inviting! It seems that construction companies have got same impression,so they've stuck security guard shack directly in front of tunnel entrances.
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Another bus stop.
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Photo update of Ülemiste road junction construction.

Few photos from Eastern end of tunnels.

You can see Filtri tee here in the distance,just in front of tree line.
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Back on Järvevana tee. Notice temporary road signs directing traffic during roadworks.
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Old August 4th, 2013, 02:34 PM   #1014
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Exclusive, newer seen before pictures about Ülemiste intersection (by me):


View towards viaduct


View towards new tramway (no big progress atm.)


"road" to nowhere (ok, actually future mall)


Viaduct


Entrance to the "mini-tunnel"


And Bam! View from top of the viaduct to the east


Top of the viaduct


View towards centre


And view towards tunnel (there were also two other guys cycling so i guess guards don't give a f*ck or they're just too lazy )


View towards tunnel


And view towards viaduct from the west side

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Old September 13th, 2013, 11:57 PM   #1015
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2 photos of the soon-to-be-finished Ülemiste intersection:
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Old September 14th, 2013, 01:57 AM   #1016
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In Soviet times, since the middle of 1970ies Lithuania was net receiver in the economy of USSR, while Latvia and Estonia were giving more than they received.
Can you provide a source for this? It is common knowledge that Lithuania was a net contributor in USSR so I would really like to know where you got this information from.
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Old September 14th, 2013, 11:15 AM   #1017
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And a video from inside and around the tunnel. A rescue training operation took place there before, that's the reason for the dented cars in the tunnel.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 03:23 PM   #1018
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The pedestrian/cyclist tunnel that was finished earlier has mirrors installed and priority signs marked. They even removed graffiti!! I think they are doing a pretty good job - only lacking things are the directional signposts for the pedestrians and the cyclists indicating like "to the airport xxxmeters", "bus stop xxx meters" and other practical bits. Anyway hooray to the decision makers to having spent so much money for constructing the parallel cycle/jogging path!!
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Old October 7th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #1019
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Ülemiste intersection will be opened in only 3 days but until then, another update by Tin_Can:
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Photo update of Ülemiste road junction construction.

Filtri tee & Viadukti tn interchange.
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Filtri tee,view towards city centre.
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View towards Ülemiste.
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Take a look at that traffic sign beneath speed limit sign.
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Old October 7th, 2013, 08:49 PM   #1020
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The first tunnel of Estonia?
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