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Old March 4th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #1081
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Is the road towards Narva now 2x3 near Tallinn?
Yes but only between Iru interchange and Maardu interchange (2.5 km). It looks like this.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 10:49 AM   #1082
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In think Peterburi highway is 3+3 from Pirita river to Maardu interchange
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Old March 5th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #1083
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Most of these roads have WAY too little traffic to justify building a motorway.
The value of 2x2 roads over 1x2 roads is not only increased capacity; the value is also in safety and reduced travel times.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 01:50 PM   #1084
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Sure, that's why we're building 2x2 sections where the AADT is less than 8,000 (which is definitely not an issue, capacity wise, for 1x2) But if the AADT is 2,500 it's a complete waste of money to build a 2x2 highway.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 02:02 PM   #1085
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If a road is 300 Kms long and has all the way 6000-10000 AADT, it should be upgraded to 2+2 I think.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 03:32 PM   #1086
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Something exclusive: Viimsi Highway (replaces Laagna tee)

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Viimsi highway has following crossings:
* same level crossing with Juhkentali (formerly Odra) and Tartu highway (and formerly K. Türnpu)
* same level crossing J. Kunderi from left
* same level crossing J. Vilmsi
* 2 level crossing with Gonsori from left
* Pallasti (no crossing, only bridge)
* 2 level crossing with Võidujooksu
* 2 level crossing with J. Smuuli tee
* 2 level crossing with M. Härma
* 2 level crossing with Liikuri (formerly Varraku)
* 2 level crossing with Mustakivi tee
* 2 level crossing with Mahtra
* 2 level crossing K. Kärberi
* 2-3 level crossing with Väo interchange (Peterburi highway; Rahu tee; Tallinn large ringroad)
* bridge over Pirita river
* Elevated section over Iru asum (part of Tallinn)
* 2 level crossing with Narva highway (Vana-Narva highway)
* tunnel beneath Pärnamäe cementary + 2 level crossing with Muuga tee
* bridge over Tallinn-Helsinki railway
* divided into two directions
* eastside direction 2 level crossing with Randvere tee and Muuga tee
* westside direction beneath Metsakasti
* 2 level crossing with Randvere tee in Lubja + bridge over industrial area
* bridge over Tallinn-Helsinki railway
* 2 level crossing with Rohuneeme tee in Rohuneeme

The secton we know as Laagna tee has rapid transit rails (Los Angeles tram-like and Los Angeles subway-like system) in median strip and has a follwong stops:
* Kumu
* Võidujooksu (local trams only)
* Paesilla
* Kotka kauplus
* Sabatähe
* Mustakivi
* Priisle (underground terminal)
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Old March 6th, 2014, 09:10 PM   #1087
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The Estonian Road Administration and the Lithuanian company UAB Kelprojektas signed a contract to create a project for the Ääsmäe-Kernu section on T4/E67. This project consists of 2 separate parts. The first one is the 9km Ääsmäe-Kohatu section which will be built as a 2+1 highway. The construction of the first part will hopefully start next year.
The second part of the project is a bypass for Kernu (approx. 5km long). This will also be designed as a 2+1 highway, although the construction will most likely start only in 2018. See the route map here.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 10:29 AM   #1088
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The Estonian Road Administration and the Lithuanian company UAB Kelprojektas signed a contract to create a project for the Ääsmäe-Kernu section on T4/E67. This project consists of 2 separate parts. The first one is the 9km Ääsmäe-Kohatu section which will be built as a 2+1 highway. The construction of the first part will hopefully start next year.
The second part of the project is a bypass for Kernu (approx. 5km long). This will also be designed as a 2+1 highway, although the construction will most likely start only in 2018. See the route map here.
2+1 = wasting money
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Old March 7th, 2014, 02:33 PM   #1089
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What would you suggest then?
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Old March 7th, 2014, 02:37 PM   #1090
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2+1 = wasting money
What do you think is the cost difference between 1x2 and 2+1 ???
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Old March 7th, 2014, 03:39 PM   #1091
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Whats the actual status of the highway section aruvalla - pikakülla??
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Old March 7th, 2014, 04:34 PM   #1092
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Aruvalla - Kose-Risti section is a dual carriageway, the rest is a simple 1x2 highway.

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Old March 7th, 2014, 05:29 PM   #1093
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Will they make this highway as a motorway to Lettonia?
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Old March 7th, 2014, 09:40 PM   #1094
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...the rest is a simple 2x1 highway.
May be 1x2? It is not the same layout of road.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 09:45 PM   #1095
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Yes, my bad.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 10:33 PM   #1096
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Old March 8th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #1097
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What would you suggest then?
2x2? Two millions don't make difference.
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Old March 8th, 2014, 12:25 AM   #1098
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Think of the 2+1 road as more of a 1x2 highway with passing lanes. There will be no grade-separted junctions, no limited access etc. Sure, you could also build a sub-standard 2x2 road for a slightly higher price than a 2+1 road but I'm personally not a fan of those (and we have plenty of them here). U-turns, left turns at grade, no-limited access etc - it all makes me feel a bit eerie on a 2x2 highway.
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Old March 10th, 2014, 11:59 PM   #1099
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On Thursday a contract was signed to create a project for a dual carriageway between Kose and Võõbu on the T2/E263. This section will be built on a completely new route, it's 25km long and divided into 2 separate stages.

The first stage runs between Kose and Ardu and is 12.3 km long, construction will start in 2016. It will have 2 interchanges, 2 crossings and an ecoduct.

The second stage runs between Ardu and Võõbu - start of construction hasn't been decided yet.

See the map here
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I suspect that the T2/E263 will be 2x2 at least from Tallinn to the T5. Can anyone confirm or refute?
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