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Old March 11th, 2014, 06:09 PM   #1101
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According to the current plans, the 2x2 will stop at Võõbu, unfortunately.
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Old March 11th, 2014, 07:07 PM   #1102
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According to the current plans, the 2x2 will stop at Võõbu, unfortunately.
Thanks. That's sad.
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Old March 11th, 2014, 08:20 PM   #1103
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Personally, I always prefer that the number of lanes should be symmetrical on both directions.

I.e.
If you have 2 lanes on the left, then there should be 2 lanes on the right. If you have 3 lanes on one side, then the other side should have 3 as well.

If you have 20 lanes on the left, then build 20 lanes on the right.

IMHO, it's better to be symmetrical
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Old March 11th, 2014, 09:14 PM   #1104
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I suspect that the T2/E263 will be 2x2 at least from Tallinn to the T5. Can anyone confirm or refute?
Probably in 15 to 20 years from now, yes...
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Old March 11th, 2014, 10:51 PM   #1105
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Personally, I always prefer that the number of lanes should be symmetrical on both directions.

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If you have 2 lanes on the left, then there should be 2 lanes on the right. If you have 3 lanes on one side, then the other side should have 3 as well.

If you have 20 lanes on the left, then build 20 lanes on the right.

IMHO, it's better to be symmetrical
Usually that makes sense, but sometimes it's important to have at least one more lanes exiting an area with few exits than entering, in order to avoid gridlock inside. Also, passing lanes are important going up steep hills, but not going down.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 12:01 PM   #1106
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More news, guys (but no construction photos, winter is still here -_-).

Although the start of construction for Väo interchange (connecting T1/E20 and T11/E265) has been pushed forward to at least 2017, the construction of new bridges across Pirita river will start quite soon.

A contract was signed to construct 2 new bridges across Pirita river on the T1/E20 here. The combined length of the bridges and the roadway that will be renovated is 600 metres. The current bridges are very narrow and only have 2 lanes in both directions. The new bridges will be 17 metres wide, allowing for 2x4 lanes to accomodate the braking and acceleration lanes for the future Väo interchange. The cost of this project is roughly € 5 million and it should be finished by the end of 2015
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Old March 22nd, 2014, 02:03 PM   #1107
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On the 20th of March a contract was signed for the construction of Kurna interchange on T11/E265/Tallinn bypass.

The project includes:
- 4.4 km of dual carriageway.
- The interchange itself
- A bridge and a tunnel for pedestrians and cyclists.
- 1.5 km of roads for pedestrians and cyclists.
- 4.2 km of collector roads
- 480m of noise barriers
- Reconstruction of 2.7km of Kurna-Tuhala road.

Cost: €20 million
Deadline: end of 2015
Scheme: http://www.mnt.ee/public/projektidpl...PLAAN_5000.pdf
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BTW, a dual carriageway connecting the soon to be U/C Kurna interchange and the recently finished Luige interchange should be finished by the end of 2014. Which means that by the end of 2015 this section of Tallinn bypass will have been built into a dual carriageway with proper interchanges, limited access etc. What bums me out, though, is that the speed limit will be 90km/h
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 12:47 PM   #1108
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What bums me out, though, is that the speed limit will be 90km/h
During summer time it won't be raised up to 110 km/h?
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 03:30 PM   #1109
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No. They claim it's because the road is situated in a populated area...which in Estonia means that there are 10 houses next to the road

I don't really know who makes these kind of decisions in Estonian Road Administration but some of these are just stupid or very difficult to understand.
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 05:07 PM   #1110
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On the 20th of March a contract was signed for the construction of Kurna interchange on T11/E265/Tallinn bypass...
This stretch in my video from 17:03
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Old March 23rd, 2014, 05:40 PM   #1111
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Old March 28th, 2014, 04:00 PM   #1112
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Update on the Topi interchange on T4/E67. The pedestrian/cyclist tunnel is completed, the viaduct and the interchange itself is still U/C.

Location: https://www.google.com/maps/@59.339893,24.6140485,16z
Scheme of the U/C interchange: http://www.mnt.ee/public/projektidpl...ukohaskeem.pdf
Deadline: Autumn 2014
Cost: € 6.66 million

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Ehitatav Topi liiklussõlm Pärnu maanteel [E67].

Valminud kergliiklustunnel.
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Ehitatav Juuliku-Tabasalu ühendustee viadukt üle Pärnu maantee.
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Viadukti rambi muldkeha.
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Old March 28th, 2014, 04:26 PM   #1113
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Cost: € 6.66 million
The devil's interchange
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Old March 28th, 2014, 05:38 PM   #1114
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Well, it's actually € 6,659,759.43 which I rounded up to € 6.66 million
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Old April 1st, 2014, 02:32 PM   #1115
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2014 map of largest roadworks: http://www.mnt.ee/public/2014_objektid_a3.pdf

Legend:
Red: TEN-T network construction projects
Green: TEN-T network repaving projects
Dark Grey - repaving projects
Brown - paving gravel roads
Wide double line - primary road
Narrow double line - secondary road
Single line - tertiary road
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Today a press conference was held, introducing the major roadworks in 2014 but also in the coming years. The presentation itself is in Estonian (http://www.mnt.ee/public/4Pressikonv...4_esitlus.pptx) but I also found at least something interesting to show you. Here is the layout for 2+1 highways:
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 11:24 PM   #1116
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Tallinna ringtee projekt!
Tallinn circuit project!

http://www.mnt.ee/public/tee/11/DEST5296.pdf

http://www.mnt.ee/public/tee/11/Loik...m_126-_290.pdf
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http://www.mnt.ee/public/tee/11/Loik...240-293_1a.pdf

http://www.mnt.ee/public/tee/11/Loik...ud_variant.pdf

http://www.mnt.ee/public/tee/11/Loik...ud_variant.pdf
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 11:26 PM   #1118
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http://www.mnt.ee/public/tee/11/Loik...114-240_2b.pdf

http://www.mnt.ee/public/tee/11/Loik...e_ca_65_km.pdf
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Old April 4th, 2014, 12:47 AM   #1119
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That was the preliminary project made in 2006-ish. Some things have change since then. I'll walk you through the bypass section by section.
  • Technical (i.e. pretty much final) project for the Väo-Jüri section (between T1/E20 and T2/E263): section 1 and section 2. As you can see, around half of the interchanges have been changed in design, including Jüri interchange which will keep its roundabout, although in an improved state. AADT: 10,000 - 12,000. Start of construction for Väo-Jüri section: unknown.
  • Jüri - Kurna interchange section is U/C, the design is pretty much the same as in the preliminary project. AADT: 14,000. Deadline: end of 2015.
  • Section between Kurna interchange and Luige interchange is also U/C. AADT: 10,400. Deadline: end of 2014.
  • Luige interchange has been finished but the design was drastically different from what was drawn up in the preliminary project. The final design: page 1 and page 2
  • Nothing has been planned for the section between Luige interchange and Juuliku interchange. The AADT is around 8,000 so it's not a top priority.
  • Juuliku interchange (between T11 and Juuliku-Harku road). This has kept its original design in the technical project, although if and when it gets built is also unknown. The AADT on this section is 7,800.
  • Section between Juuliku interchange and Kanama interchange (between T11 and T4/E67). Technical project. Start of construction is uknown.
  • Nothing has been planned for either Kanama interchange nor the section between Kanama interchange and Keila. The AADT is above 10,000 next to Saue but around 8,000 on the remaining section.
  • The final 3 plans shown in your posts are not part of T11 but T8 (Tallinn-Paldiski highway). Things are rather quiet on that section, apart from the T8 section right next to Keila which will receive an overhaul this year. See plans here. The project pretty much consists of new bridges over Keila river and a few turbo-roundabouts (Estonian road designers have fully embraced the turbo-roundabouts although not all have fully understood its concept )

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Old April 4th, 2014, 02:39 PM   #1120
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Tallinna ringtee projekt!
Tallinn circuit project!
sõbralik nõuanne, Tallinna ringtee oleks tõlkes Tallinn ringroad
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