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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:28 AM   #1161
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Yes, it happened in 1998 as a trial run on one section of Tallinn - Narva dual carriageway.

Estonian Road Administration is considering raising the speed limits on dual carriageways to 120 km/h in summer and to 110 km/h in winter in the future, although that would require more winter maintenance and possibly electronic signs.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 12:44 AM   #1162
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What are plans about building new 2*2 roads (casual or expressways). Are there plans to build 2*2 road east towards Narva? Or Tallinn - Tartu road.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 02:51 AM   #1163
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There are plans to keep widening Tallinn bypass to a dual carriageway. A short 1.6 km stretch just opened and another 4.4 km will open next Autumn.

There is also a plan to build a dual carriageway on Tallinn - Tartu road from Kose to Ardu - approximately 13 km. Construction should hopefully start in 2016. This road would be on a completely new route, separate from the existing road.

Tallinn - Narva probably won't see any 2x2 projects in the near future. It already has almost 80 km of dual carriageway and the traffic density on the 1x2 parts doesn't justify a widening.

We will probably see 2+1 roads in the future, though, starting from Tallinn - Pärnu highway and then later on Tallinn - Tartu road as well.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 12:30 PM   #1164
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There are plans to keep widening Tallinn bypass to a dual carriageway. A short 1.6 km stretch just opened and another 4.4 km will open next Autumn.

There is also a plan to build a dual carriageway on Tallinn - Tartu road from Kose to Ardu - approximately 13 km. Construction should hopefully start in 2016. This road would be on a completely new route, separate from the existing road.

Tallinn - Narva probably won't see any 2x2 projects in the near future. It already has almost 80 km of dual carriageway and the traffic density on the 1x2 parts doesn't justify a widening.

We will probably see 2+1 roads in the future, though, starting from Tallinn - Pärnu highway and then later on Tallinn - Tartu road as well.
Tallinn-Tartu road:
Where will be the end of 2x2 road and start of 2+1 road (if there will no 1+1 left in between)? Is there a plans of 2x2 road near Tartu?
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 05:33 PM   #1165
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The 2+1 road would actually be built between Põltsamaa and Tartu. Construction will hopefully start in 2018 with the first four sections of 2+1 lanes, each around 1.5 - 2 km in length.

Tartu bypass is being upgraded step-by-step. Some sections will be 2x2, a couple of interchanges will also be built but it won't be completely grade-separated.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:44 PM   #1166
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The 2+1 road would actually be built between Põltsamaa and Tartu. Construction will hopefully start in 2018 with the first four sections of 2+1 lanes, each around 1.5 - 2 km in length.

Tartu bypass is being upgraded step-by-step. Some sections will be 2x2, a couple of interchanges will also be built but it won't be completely grade-separated.
What minimum AADT should be for building 2x2 road?
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 07:41 PM   #1167
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Forecasted AADT in 20 years should be at least 14,500.

If you want to look at AADT in 2013, the maps are here:
- for the entire country
- around Tallinn and Tartu
- around other towns
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Old November 6th, 2014, 04:17 AM   #1168
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Here you can see a video of the almost finished II stage of Tartu Eastern bypass including a new bridge over river Emajõgi.

Notice the rather tall concrete barriers - those are there not only to act as noise barriers but also to prevent headlights from disturbing the birds at an adjacent Natura 2000 area...make of that what you wish.

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In 2016 the construction of the III stage should begin. Here's the latest version for that project:

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Old November 13th, 2014, 08:33 AM   #1169
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I found a video showing the whole Narva-Tallinn road in real time, filmed in September 2013.

Most interesting places:
40:15 - 44:20 - Jõhvi - Kohtla-Järve dual carriageway
1:30:35 - 1:32:40 - Haljala interchange, including a short stretch of dual carriageway. (BTW, note the distance sign at 1:32:08 - Stockholm 464 )
1:37:00 - Start of the dual carriageway towards Tallinn.
1:38:30 - 1:42:30 - Viitna bypass.
2:09:35 - 2:11:10 - The only 2x3 dual carriageway section in Estonia.



This user also has some other road trip videos, including the whole Narva - Palanga (LT) route.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #1170
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Winter driving can be interesting in Estonia This was filmed by me on the 27th December on the T2/E263. Sorry for the poor quality.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 09:50 PM   #1171
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Are there any ice roads open?
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Old December 29th, 2014, 10:01 PM   #1172
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Not yet. The temperatures have been below zero for only a week or so. It takes a lot more than that to form a solid ice cover on the sea. The forecast for the next week is mild temperatures above zero so I wouldn't count on having ice roads any time soon
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Old January 1st, 2015, 07:30 PM   #1173
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Sillamae section of E20 is considered to be the most dangerous stretch of Tallinn - Narva road, mainly because of the same level railroad crossing and high truck traffic. Official AADT is ~5500, but between some of the local roads it is ~9000. The speed limit is 50km/h, trucks form more than 25% of traffic.

Previous E20 Sillamae section project solution has been bashed for being waste of money and unsafe. One of the traffic experts has shown, that even building 2 roundabouts instead of proposed interchanges would be far more efficient money usage.

Estonian road administration has listened to the criticism, reviewed the solution and ordered a new preproject.
So now the updated Sillamae section plans looks like this:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAPQnlKrgc

And I have to say, that the new solution is far better than the old one.
- 2 interchanges are now conflict free on main road.
- Traffic lights removed. thanks to improved collector road network
- Pedestrian crossings replaced with tunnels.
- Roundabout replaced with a new interchange.
- Project speed increased from 60km/h to 80km/h.

If everything goes well, construction will start next year (at least for the part on the first screen).

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There is also a plan to build a dual carriageway on Tallinn - Tartu road from Kose to Ardu - approximately 13 km. Construction should hopefully start in 2016. This road would be on a completely new route, separate from the existing road.
No more money for that . There is still hope on the new government, but the risk is quite hight, that it won't be built.
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Old January 1st, 2015, 09:40 PM   #1174
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Why are the bus stops on the local road and not on the main? The detour that the bus will have to make is quite unpractical
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Old January 1st, 2015, 10:18 PM   #1175
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Why are the bus stops on the local road and not on the main? The detour that the bus will have to make is quite unpractical
What's the point of having local roads if you put bus stop on the main one? You usually don't see sidewalks on highways if they have local roads parallel to them.
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Old January 1st, 2015, 10:56 PM   #1176
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Why are the bus stops on the local road and not on the main? The detour that the bus will have to make is quite unpractical
Stopping on main roads is more dangerous than on local roads. The presence of pedestrians on main roads is more dangerous than on local roads.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 05:17 PM   #1177
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2014 traffic density numbers are out. The average AADT rose by 4.1% compared to 2013. The average AADT on main roads was 4,553 (+3.8%), on secondary roads 1,388 (+4.5%) and on tertiary roads 262 (+4,3%).

The biggest AADT was 31,831 on T4/E67, just outside Talllinn. T1/E20 followed with 24,529 and T2/E263 with 21,315 - all of those numbers were also recorded just outside Tallinn.

The map for traffic density on main roads and secondary roads can be seen here.

More detailed maps of the following areas:
Tallinn
Tartu and Paide
Pärnu and Rakvere
Kohtla-Järve and Viljandi

More information can be found here(in Estonian).
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Old March 14th, 2015, 05:29 AM   #1178
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I hope Valvejoodik doesn't mind me posting these here:
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Mõniste-Ape
Road number 68 (Latvian P19) reconstruction is almost finished:


Mõniste now has proper sidewalks and lighting.


Previously the road had slopes all the way (can be seen on the left)- perfect for wannabe rally-drivers


Metsavenna talu


River Vaidava on the left


Entering Latvia. Fun fact: before the reconstruction when the road was FULL of holes, the limit was 90km/h (if I do remember correctly). Now there is only 70 and 50


Ape now also has sidewalks and lighting.


Ape and nice roundabout. Btw, I really like this small town, it's centre looks really cosy and one street is paved with cobblestones. Though, to get to the highway, you need to use gravel road (maybe it was also reconstructed, not sure...)


On the way back: Somehow on the NEW road there are holes right on the border crossing, seems to be Latvian side. These better be fixed soon or...


Back in Estonia


Road and river are close and to avoid erosion by the river, they have reinforced the riverbed next to the road.
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Old March 14th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #1179
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Nope, not at all
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Old March 23rd, 2015, 08:29 PM   #1180
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What's the current situation at the Saatse boot? Is there some information about when the Russian-Estonian border will be changed there?
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