daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old June 13th, 2015, 05:23 PM   #1241
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,591
Likes (Received): 19378

Numbering roads by importance is not practical. Yes, you can probably designate the 4 most important routes, but is route #7 more important than #9 or #12?

That's why most countries have several route numbering classes, and number their networks according to a system, either east-west/north south, radial from the most important city or cities, or zoned / clustered.

Numbering roads chronologically is usually only possible with motorways (because other roads usually pre-existed before the numbering system was introduced) but is often not practical. Few countries do this, or switch to a new or hybrid system at some point.
__________________

my clinched highways / travel mapping • highway photography @ Flickr and Youtube

BriedisUnIzlietne liked this post
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old June 13th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #1242
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Quote:
Originally Posted by BriedisUnIzlietne View Post
It is an important cargo route, but how will Rail Baltica affect it? Number of trucks will probably decrease, no?
Hopefully the number of trucks will indeed decrease but that mostly depends on whether the government decides to implement a fair system for charging truck traffic for road infrastructure use. Currently there is only a small fixed yearly charge (the minimum required by the EU) for trucks so the difference in infrastructure fees between road and rail is 15-30 times. Foreign trucks pay absolutely nothing.

Considering that the damage of a single truck to the road surface (compared to a passenger car) is so big, a tonne-km based charging system should be implemented for any vehicle above 3,5 tonnes IMO, including buses.
__________________

BriedisUnIzlietne liked this post

Last edited by Rebasepoiss; June 13th, 2015 at 07:35 PM.
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2015, 01:10 AM   #1243
kapo311
Registered User
 
kapo311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tallinn, Copenhagen
Posts: 643
Likes (Received): 1179

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebasepoiss View Post
Well, not quite. T10, T11 and T92 are also main highways, the last one being a sort of an oddity.
That T92 is something new to me, when did that become main road?
kapo311 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2015, 01:44 AM   #1244
Kanadzie
Registered User
 
Kanadzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,374
Likes (Received): 747

Quote:
Originally Posted by BriedisUnIzlietne View Post
It is an important cargo route, but how will Rail Baltica affect it? Number of trucks will probably decrease, no?
I doubt it, the economy will probably grow and number of trucks probably increase and the rail will make the rate of increase slower than otherwise...
__________________
100 coups de fouet, si vous n'êtes pas morts de rire !
Kanadzie no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd, 2015, 01:50 PM   #1245
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Lifting a railway viadutct into place in 31 hours. Location: Tartu Western bypass (T2/E263). They used one of the biggest mobile cranes in the world to lift the 295t viaduct. The crane itself can lift up to 750t.
__________________

simondanut, Valvejoodik, pai nosso liked this post
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 23rd, 2015, 08:56 PM   #1246
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

A few photos of the nearly finished Kurna interchange on Tallinn bypass. Thanks go to Tin_Can!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebasepoiss View Post
The project includes:
- 4.4 km of dual carriageway.
- The interchange itself
- A bridge and a tunnel for pedestrians and cyclists.
- 1.5 km of roads for pedestrians and cyclists.
- 4.2 km of collector roads
- 480m of noise barriers
- Reconstruction of 2.7km of Kurna-Tuhala road.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin_Can View Post
Paari tunni vanused pildid peagi valmivast Kurna liiklussõlmest Tallinna ringteel (E265 / T11). Kuigi tähtaeg on selle nädala lõpus 27ndal septembril võib eeldada,et piirete ja müraseinade paigaldus ning haljastustööd kestavad oktoobri keskpaigani.

Rohkem pilte tuleb siis kui liiklussõlm valmis saab.


Kiili alevit ja Viljandi mnt-d (ning viimase kaudu Tallinnat) ühendav lõik. Vaade Kiili suunas.


Vaade uue Tallinna ringteed ületava viadukti suunas.


Kergliiklustee sild üle Tallinna ringtee.


Vaade kergliiklustee sillalt Tallinna ringteele. Mmmm...värske 2+2 tee...




__________________

Last edited by Rebasepoiss; September 23rd, 2015 at 09:08 PM.
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 27th, 2015, 10:36 PM   #1247
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Another photo series from Tallinn bypass by Tin_Can, this time from Luige interchange which was finished in 2013. Location

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin_Can View Post
Umbes kahe aasta eest valminud Luige liiklussõlm. Asub Tallinna ringteel peagi valmivast Kurna liiklussõlmest mõned kilomeetrid lääne pool.

Luige liiklussõlmes ristuvad Tallinna ringtee (E265 / T11) ja Tallinn-Rapla-Türi ehk siis Tallinn-Viljandi maantee (T15)

Tallinna poolt Luige viaduktile lähenedes avaneb selline vaade.




Vaade viaduktilt ida suunas. Taamal paistab Luige liiklussõlme kergliiklussild ja vasakule jääb Tallinna poolne viadukti esine ringristmik.




Vaade lääne suunas.


Viadukti esine lõunapoolne ringristmik.





Jätkub...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin_Can View Post
Tallinna ringteega paralleelselt jooksev ligipääsutee. Veidi eksootilisemaid liiklusmärke on ka näha.


Kergliiklussild üle Tallinna ringtee.


Sealt avanev vaade Luige liiklussõlme suunas...


...ning Kurna suunas.
__________________

ChrisZwolle, riiga, Shenkey, SRC_100, 8166UY and 1 others liked this post
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 12th, 2015, 04:16 AM   #1248
Tin_Can
Moderator
 
Tin_Can's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 6,795

Yay,finally beat Rebasepoiss reposting spree!


Kurna interchange at Tallinn Ring Road is now completed and here's how it looked yesterday:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin_Can View Post
Nagu varem lubatud - mõned uued pildid Kurna liiklussõlmest mis on nüüdseks lõplikult valmis.

Vaade liiklussõlmele.






Vaade lääne suunas.




Kergliiklustee sild.



Jätkub...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin_Can View Post
Viaduktile viiv tee.


Kurna liiklussõlm ise on vaid osa tehtud töödest. Lisaks on liiklussõlme ümber ehitatud palju uusi ligipääsuteid,ümber ehitatud olemasolevaid teid ja ristmikke ning rajatud kergliiklusteid. Pildil nähtav tee jookseb Tallinna ringteega paralleelselt.


Liiklussõlmest ida pool asuv kergliiklustee tunnel.


Viimane pakub meeldiva üllatuse. Nimelt on tunnelis Kurna küla ajalugu tutvustav fotonäitus.


__________________
MY PHOTOS OF ESTONIA: HAAPSALU | TALLINN (1400+ PHOTOS! NEW PHOTOS!)
MY TRAVEL PHOTOS: STOCKHOLM
VISIT NORDIC & BALTIC FORUM

riiga, Rebasepoiss, ChrisZwolle, 8166UY, Rombi and 2 others liked this post
Tin_Can no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 12th, 2015, 04:26 AM   #1249
Tin_Can
Moderator
 
Tin_Can's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 6,795

Btw,Kurna interchange might be finished but already there are new works ongoing nearby. At the moment viaducts are being rebuilt at E263 / T2 and in next year new interchange will be built near Jüri adding brand new viaduct & plenty of new roads.
All this is part of Tallinn Ring Road upgrading. By late 2018 entire eastern half of it will be turned into 2+2 highway and will link with E20 / T1. Can't even count how many new viaducts and railway bridges that part adds.

If Rebasepoiss is right,then we'll also see new highway design there - 2+2 with concrete median lane barrier.
__________________
MY PHOTOS OF ESTONIA: HAAPSALU | TALLINN (1400+ PHOTOS! NEW PHOTOS!)
MY TRAVEL PHOTOS: STOCKHOLM
VISIT NORDIC & BALTIC FORUM
Tin_Can no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old October 30th, 2015, 06:36 PM   #1250
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

A couple more photos:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkk View Post
Aerials of the completed Kurna intersection





Maanteeamet
__________________

ilyan liked this post
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 4th, 2015, 11:28 PM   #1251
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Great news! Construction of Põrguvälja interchange on Tallinn bypass is starting this week.. Location

It will include a new interchange on T11 (Tallinn bypass) and reconstruction of the existing roundabout.

Works will start with archeological digs and earthworks. Construction of the viaduct will start in March 2016. Deadline is set at 18.01.2017. Cost of the project is € 8.4 million.

This highway section will have a new type of cross-section which is based on the Swedish (urban) motorway standards. This type of cross-section will be continued further East in the future with the widenining of Tallinn bypass.


Overall plan
Detailed drawings
Youtube video
Source: http://www.mnt.ee/index.php?id=28729
__________________

riiga, BriedisUnIzlietne liked this post
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 5th, 2015, 03:01 PM   #1252
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,591
Likes (Received): 19378

Nice project The next phase would be a flyover across the large roundabout with Route 2?
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 5th, 2015, 03:35 PM   #1253
sponge_bob
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 3,950
Likes (Received): 2204

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebasepoiss View Post
Great news! Construction of Põrguvälja interchange on Tallinn bypass is starting this week.. Location
is € 8.4 million.

This highway section will have a new type of cross-section which is based on the Swedish (urban) motorway standards.



Overall plan
Detailed drawings
Irish rural motorways are around that cross section with slightly wider hard shoulders only and a few more cm in the middle. These are roads designed for perhaps 30k AADT @ 120kph. Irish standards often start in Sweden.
sponge_bob no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 5th, 2015, 09:48 PM   #1254
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
Nice project The next phase would be a flyover across the large roundabout with Route 2?
There is no such plan at the moment, AFAIK. There were plans during the 2000s to have a cloverleaf interchange there but those plans where (fortunately) scrapped. First they'll continue widening (and building interchanges) towards T1/E20 which should be finished by 2020 or so. I'd guess they'll turn their attention to T11/T2 (the roundabout) after that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sponge_bob View Post
Irish rural motorways are around that cross section with slightly wider hard shoulders only and a few more cm in the middle. These are roads designed for perhaps 30k AADT @ 120kph. Irish standards often start in Sweden.
The design speed here is 100 km/h but I wouldn't be surprised if it still gets a 110 km/h speed limit.
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 7th, 2015, 07:46 PM   #1255
Valvejoodik
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,673
Likes (Received): 832

Oh noes, 120km/h. That is a killer speed, we must stick to the 90.
Valvejoodik no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2015, 11:13 PM   #1256
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

The 5th construction area of Tartu Western bypass (T2/E263) has now been finished. Location. It has mostly 2x2 lanes and a summer speed limit of 100 km/h. The AADT on this road is around 14,000.
Source of photos

Looking North towards Tartu:


Interchange between T2/E263 and Ülenurme-Külitse road, also known as Lennujaama interchange (airport interchange).


Tõrvandi crossing, previously a traffic-light intersection.


Tõrvandi crossing again:
__________________
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 8th, 2016, 02:12 PM   #1257
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

A tender for the construction of Juuliku interchange on T11/E265 (Tallinn bypass) has been announced. Location. It will include 5km of dual-carriageway on the T11 and a new 1x2 lane road connecting Juuliku interchange to the Topi interchange in the North. The latter will be part of Juuliku-Tabasalu road which will essentially form the Western bypass of Tallinn.

AADT on this section of Tallinn bypass in 2014 was 8,300-8,800. This project should be finished by the end of 2017.

Plan (mind the North arrow):


Note: the connection to Kanama interchange (T4-T11) isn't shown on the plan but it's also part of this project.
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 8th, 2016, 03:41 PM   #1258
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,591
Likes (Received): 19378

What about the segment from Route 340 to Route 15 (Saku - Luige)? That's about 4 km of missing dual carriageway after this will be completed.
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 8th, 2016, 07:16 PM   #1259
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Yup, a ridiculously short section. Unfortunately there are no concrete plans for anything before 2020. Estonian Road Administration is being run on a shoestring budget now and in the foreseeable future.
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 28th, 2016, 01:24 PM   #1260
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Good news! The government has given the green light to Kose-Mäo dual carriageway construction on the T2/E263. Unfortunately, the construction will begin only in 2018 and be finished by 2022.

The road will be built on a completely new route which can be seen here.
__________________
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
estonia, highways, motorways, roads

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium