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Old January 12th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #161
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Ahh,you took the scenic route. It's my favourite road in Estonia (ok,maybe few roads in Southern Estonia come close to it) It's really nice driving experience,constant curves & good roadside views (sea,cliffs & nice forests)
I have to agree with you on this one. The road became especially good when they reconstructed a large part of it a few years ago.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 04:54 PM   #162
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Ice, ice, baby!

At the moment, 4 different official ice roads are opened in Estonia.
There are some special rules on ice roads:
1) You are allowed to use ice roads only during the daytime. When visibility drops below 300m, one is not allowed to use the ice road.
2) Overtaking, stopping and driving outside the bordered road is prohibited.
3) Speed has to be below 25km/h or between 40km/h and 70km/h. Speeds between 25 and 40km/h may cause resonance which damages the ice.
4) Seat belts may not be fastened.
5) Distance between cars has to be at least 250m.
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At the moment, the maximum allowed weight per car is 2,5 tonnes. This may vary depending on the condition of the ice.

A map of the current ice roads:


And this is what an ice road looks like(not my picture):
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Old February 10th, 2010, 06:07 PM   #163
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Damn, sounds brilliant ! So how thick is currently ice ? It seems like infrastructure improvement by nature
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Old February 10th, 2010, 06:31 PM   #164
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Damn, sounds brilliant ! So how thick is currently ice ? It seems like infrastructure improvement by nature
According to Baltice.org, 20-35cm. It would be a lot thicker if we didn't have so much snow this year. Snow acts like a warm blanket
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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:22 PM   #165
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Wow. That's simply awesome
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Old February 11th, 2010, 12:42 AM   #166
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On average, how many days per year are those ice roads opened?
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Old February 11th, 2010, 11:25 AM   #167
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On average, how many days per year are those ice roads opened?
Unfortunately I couldn't find if such statistics have been made or are available online.
It depends totally on the winter. Some years no ice roads are opened at all. You know, global warming and everything .
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Old February 11th, 2010, 04:00 PM   #168
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Okay, thanks Are there any other countries that have ice roads when possible? The only other European one I heard about was an ice road crossing the IJsselmeer in The Netherlands in 1963. In North-America there are some ice-roads in the north. Anyone else who has seen the series "Ice-road truckers?"
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Old February 11th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #169
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I´ve been on an official ice road in Finland, but everywhere where the winters are cold, you´ll find (unofficial) iceroads I think.

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Old February 11th, 2010, 04:19 PM   #170
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I wonder if they salt ice roads
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Old February 11th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #171
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i was sure that ice should be at least 80 cm fat to face out with weight of car!
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Old February 11th, 2010, 05:09 PM   #172
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I admire anyone who is brave enough to drive on ice. Call me a wimp but I could only drive on an ice road if the car were equipped with a toilet.
Do you need chains or spikes on the tires to drive on an ice road?



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Old February 11th, 2010, 05:24 PM   #173
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i was sure that ice should be at least 80 cm fat to face out with weight of car!
No, 20 - 30 cm is enough to carry a car, maybe just over 50 cm to carry a light truck. The water actually carries most of the weight, and there are almost no tides in the Baltic Sea.
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I admire anyone who is brave enough to drive on ice. Call me a wimp but I could only drive on an ice road if the car were equipped with a toilet.
Do you need chains or spikes on the tires to drive on an ice road?



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You need winter tyres but those are compulsory everywhere during the winter in Estonia. Studded tyres and/or snow chains are allowed but not necessary.

If you drive with a constant speed there's no reason why the car should loose control and if it does, the only thing you're probably going to hit is a wall of snow.

And if you worry about falling through ice, you should remember that thorough checks of the ice conditions are made daily. I can't recall anyone dying on an ice road in Estonia. There have been some cases where the ice has broken and the car has sunken but these have all been on illegal ice roads.
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That's brilliant. Screw building bridges, just drive to and from the islands in the winter. I'd love to drive over one of those.
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Very cool.

The Tibbitt to Contwoyto Winter Road in Nunavut is the longest ice road in the world at about 600km long. It is the only road that links Nunavut to the rest of the country.

Tuktoyaktuk Winter Road connects Tuktoyaktuk to Inuvik; it's built over the frozen Mackenzie River and parts of the Arctic Ocean.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 02:18 PM   #177
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http://uudised.err.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=30433

Estonian news report about the ice roads (situation is still the same as in the map above, but maybe they will open an ice road from the mainland to Saaremaa. But in the video they say that the ice is still "porridge" there). Maybe an Estonian can translate it properly :p?
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Old February 18th, 2010, 09:58 PM   #178
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http://uudised.err.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=30433

Estonian news report about the ice roads (situation is still the same as in the map above, but maybe they will open an ice road from the mainland to Saaremaa. But in the video they say that the ice is still "porridge" there). Maybe an Estonian can translate it properly :p?
You pretty much already said why they can't open the ice road between Saaremaa and mainland yet: even though the ice thickness is around 20 cm in the weakest area, the top layer of the ice is soft and rather fragile. If cold weather continues, the ice road may be opened in a week, perhaps.

OT: It's always nice to see foreigners know a bit of Estonian .
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Old February 21st, 2010, 10:00 PM   #179
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FINALLY, the I stage of reconstructing Tallinn-Narva highway between Tallinn border and Jõelähtme interchange will begin. The works will start in March and will be finished at the end of 2011. 3,7km of it will be 2x3 and 3,1km will be 2x2 lanes. 2 new interchanges will be built, including 1 railway tunnel and 1 road tunnel(both the first in Estonia). Besides that, 5,8 km of collector roads, 8km of bicycle/pedestrian routes, a 564m long noise barrier and a bridge for pedestrians will be built. The cost of the project is € 24 million of which 80% is funded by the EU.
Project plan: http://www.mnt.ee/atp/failid/V_o_Maa...an__v_ike_.pdf

The Väo interchange which connects Tallinn-Narva highway, Tallinn ringroad and Laagna road has been put on hold due to land issues but construction is likely to begin next year.
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Old February 21st, 2010, 10:14 PM   #180
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