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Old December 23rd, 2015, 12:09 AM   #2001
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Many joggers and runners in the Netherlands use small flashing LED lights nowadays. Some people also put them on dogs if they have to let them out in the dark. Though these small LEDs are probably not really helpful on high-speed roads.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 12:20 AM   #2002
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The reflectors are almost useless. Usually you see them only when you can see the pedestrian wearing it. LED lights are pretty common too, from my experience, but the only real solution to this is building sidewalks parallel to main roads, or atleast lighting them in area's where people usually walk.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 12:22 AM   #2003
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Yes, and bicycle paths detached from main roads.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 12:48 AM   #2004
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Yes, and bicycle paths detached from main roads.
Cycling is an issue, but not so common as in the Netherlands. I don't agree, that reflectors are useless. But i agree that it depends on what acutally is a reflector.

If one thinks about the budget a country like Latvia has, a campaign for safety using reflectors etc. might be much more helpful than building a fex sidewalks for the same money.

But still i hope this improvements are done also. Compared to my german experience i could "feel" the risk in Latvia when i was there. And the numbers are clear.

About people thinking they are good visible: I almost killed one pupil going to the school on my road. Its a narrow road without sidewalks. But this was not the problem, you cannot drive fast there. He crossed the intersection diagonally and i turned left there. So i drove around him missing him by centimeters. He wore complete dark mostly black and it was last winter. You couldn't imagin my shock. Even if you are slow, you cannot brak fast enough. And if you don't notice the pedestrian you smash him slowly, but the result is the same.

So i don't know what to think about at all. Every so often pedestrians do very stupid things. But i can imagine that its easy to blame them for everything...
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 08:43 AM   #2005
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but the only real solution to this is building sidewalks parallel to main roads, or atleast lighting them in area's where people usually walk.
Sidewalks near the main roads? You gonna be kidding...
And I have problems with these dark clothed pedestrians on regional and local roads as well.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 09:17 AM   #2006
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That fence is to stop pedestrians crossing the road (despite the trees it's an urban area). But they should have added the guardrails too.

But the fences are never effective even at their only goal. Just a waste of money to show that we are "increasing safety". A pohazuka as the Russians would say.
*Pokazuha (from pokazyvat) we've got fences like these on some big roads, I don't know how well they work but I haven't seen people cross the carriageway by hopping the fence or breaking it yet.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 09:22 AM   #2007
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Sidewalks near the main roads? You gonna be kidding...
And I have problems with these dark clothed pedestrians on regional and local roads as well.
I think he means a pedestrian/bicycle path next to the road, like this:


Source:http://www.eestiteed.eu/gallery/kerg...aane-virumaal/

Or a more expensive lit path:

Source: http://www.rae.ee/assaku-peetri-kergliiklustee
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 10:44 AM   #2008
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Sidewalks near the main roads? You gonna be kidding...
And I have problems with these dark clothed pedestrians on regional and local roads as well.
You can't build infrastructure for pedestrians on every P and V road, atleast currently. But building detached sidewalks and bicycle lanes next to roads that are used by pedestrians more frequently is the solution for now.

A few projects are realised every year, but not enough. Currently there are only two U/C objects - pedestrian bridge across A10 and 2 kilometers of lit sidewalk next to A13.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 05:35 PM   #2009
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Cycling is an issue, but not so common as in the Netherlands. I don't agree, that reflectors are useless. But i agree that it depends on what acutally is a reflector.

If one thinks about the budget a country like Latvia has, a campaign for safety using reflectors etc. might be much more helpful than building a fex sidewalks for the same money.

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So i don't know what to think about at all. Every so often pedestrians do very stupid things. But i can imagine that its easy to blame them for everything...
Recently our ministry of Traffic had a conference about road safety. It included experts from Denmark (if I'm not mistaken) and Volvo. The summary of it was:
Denmark and Volvo suggesting the building detached pedestrian and cycle paths in urban and other important areas. And then our ministry and road safety department saying "Yes, but no, we won't do that. It isn't possible. Reflectors will be safer."

The most frustrating thing is that both Estonia and Lithuania do build such paths next to main roads. (From recent projects I like the Lithuanian A11 reconstruction.) Meanwhile we complain that it will never be possible to build a path next to all main roads and don't build any paths. After 10 more years the result will be that Lithuania and Estonia will have a fairly decent network of paths while we won't have any "because it's impossible". Such paths don't cost a lot of money — they are not wide and they aren't made to such strength as road surface.

On other roads I guess people should be encouraged to use flashlights (it's not as clunky as hi-vis vests and for pedestrians there is the visible benefit of seeing where you are going). And that pedestrians should walk on the left side so they could be better seen and vice versa.

There are always the stupid ones. You can't engineer that out. No safety labyrinth pelican crossings or barriers will help.


PS I am happy that in the forum we have actually created a discussion rather than simple new stories and updates with the occasional "wow, great"
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Old January 14th, 2016, 03:54 PM   #2010
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Government has allowed Ministry of Transport to buy five more properties, worth more than 500,000 EUR, in order to start construction of A7 Ķekava bypass.
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Old March 15th, 2016, 06:25 PM   #2011
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Road trip to eastern Latvia (Latgale)

I'll go from Germany to Rezekne in eastern Latvia (Latgale region) this summer.
There are two options for me instead of driving via Poland:
1. Using ferry from Kiel to Klaipeda and then A1 to Kaunas, then A6 (LT)/A13 (LV) via Daugavpils to Rezekne.
2. Using ferry from Travemünde to Ventspils and then A10 to Riga, then A6 and A12 to Rezekne.
The route via Lithuania is ca. 100 km longer. But am I right that it is faster to drive than the Latvian route via Ventspils and Riga?
I remember that road conditions in Lithuania were much better than in Latvia in 2003. Is it still the same today?

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Old March 15th, 2016, 08:53 PM   #2012
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Isn't it faster to drive straight forward through Poland without ferry?

A10 in Latvia has been mostly reconstructed in the last few years, A6 is in decent/good condition (I recommend using P80/E22 when possible, that's a newly built replacement for A6) and A12 is almost fully reconstructed.

If you choose to go though Klaipeda, there are some time consuming road works on A13 and the rest of it isn't in the best shape AFAIK.
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Old March 15th, 2016, 09:03 PM   #2013
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It's a pretty long ferry trip, but you don't need an overnight stay in a hotel on the way to Latvia. The rates are relatively low for such a long ferry ride (750 kilometers).
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If you choose to go though Klaipeda
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Old March 16th, 2016, 07:41 PM   #2015
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Thank you very much for your helpful answers.
How much time should I plan for Ventspils-Riga-Rezekne?
And how are road conditions on A9 Liepaja-Riga? I found a Ferry line between Travemünde and Liepaja as well.

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Ventspils-Riga-Rēzekne should take about 5-5:30 hours.

Liepāja-Rīga-Rēzekne is pretty much the same time. A9 was also almsot fully reconstructed in the last three years. Road conditions on A roads in Latvia are generally good, most of the bad parts are in Latgale. If you really worry about the roads, I would recommend to choose Liepāja/Ventspils and then take A12 to Rēzekne, as A13 isn't in such a good condition as A12.
The worst you could encounter on A roads is something like this.
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Old March 18th, 2016, 02:18 PM   #2017
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There are worse sections but basically main roads here are quite suitable for driving.
The worst section for you might be Koknese - Jēkabpils.
And yes, choose P80 (E22) instead of A6 - it's much better. It's poorly shown in Google maps but basically it starts from Riga bypass A4 (there it's road P5 actually but it leads to P80) and then for ~63 km it's P80. In Google maps the last 1/3 of it it's shown on the old path.
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Thank you, guys.
I'll take ferry to Ventspils, and then use A10-P80-A6-A12.
Btw., are there any plans to build P80 as expressway until Rezekne and upgrade it into A-road?
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Btw., are there any plans to build P80 as expressway until Rezekne
It will be an expressway when they will build the second carriageway, but that won't happen anytime soon. Probably makaveli6 knows more about that.

And there are at least 3 pieces (colored in red) missing to make the road complete:
http://balticmaps.eu/?lang=en&draw_h...layer=map&ls=o

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upgrade it into A-road?
De facto it's already an A-road. It has two level interchanges, an A-road maintenance class and it's included in the A-road traffic intensity map.
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Thank you, guys.
I'll take ferry to Ventspils, and then use A10-P80-A6-A12.
Btw., are there any plans to build P80 as expressway until Rezekne and upgrade it into A-road?
As Briedis already mentioned, P80 is already de-facto A road. Currently there are three sections waiting to be built.
  • Rīga-Tīnu˛i, dual carriageway expressway/motorway, construction is planned to start in 2025
  • Pļaviņas-Jēkabpils (Jēkabpils bypass), single carriageway, expressway standart, could start around 2020
  • Koknese-Pļaviņas, single carriageway, expessway standart, could start around 2025
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