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Old May 6th, 2010, 03:09 AM   #441
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Karčemos village. 50km/h
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Surface quality is quite poor for most of the time as well. Perhaps not that bad but certainly below average
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Junction with national road 149 which is despite being of lower category is a better option for driving between Őiauliai and Panevė×ys. It's a few km longer but takes less time due to less speed restrictions and lower traffic
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Old May 6th, 2010, 08:55 AM   #443
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I used to drive from Kaunas to Siauliai through Radviliskis, but for two years I didn't use this route, because it is too slow and now it's even slower as I see. From Radviliskis to Siauliai it was almost impossible to overtake someone of it's very narrow road.

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Old May 6th, 2010, 06:04 PM   #445
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What's the speed limit before the camera? Also, how big are the fines for speeding in Lithuania and how many speed cameras do you have?
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Old May 7th, 2010, 12:14 AM   #446
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What's the speed limit before the camera? Also, how big are the fines for speeding in Lithuania and how many speed cameras do you have?
I think the limit was 70km/h. There are plenty of 70km/h limits on that road. They typically put cameras near junctions which have permanent speed limits in place.

As about the number of cameras I'm not sure but there are LOADS of them these days. I was quite surprised because while driving on A roads in Lithuania you'll see one every few minutes (less so on A1 between Kaunas and Klaipeda and A2). There also is a sign before every speed camera so you'll have enough time to slow down. Also, according to someone who knows more than me about those cameras, they only work if the car is speeding by more than 20km/h.
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A2 (E272)

A2 Vilnius-Panevė×ys is one of two motorways in Lithuania and connects the capital Vilnius with Panevė×ys which is the 5th largest city.

The history of A2 as we know it today started in 1980 with a construction of the motorway from Vilnius to Ukmergė town (about 74 from Vilnius) which was complete by 1985. Later the remaining stretch to Panevėys was built to reach the full length of 136km.

At first (in the late 80's or early 90's) only one 1+1 part from Ukmergė to Panevė×ys was completed with the remaining two lanes left on-hold due to the lack of financing (part of the works were complete a while ago). Full completion did not happen until 1998 after which it became a 2+2 motorway all the way from Vilnius to Panevė×ys. Currently there are no any short or medium term plans to extend it to any direction (Riga or Őiauliai. Although the latter option might happen some time in the long term with A9 becoming a 2+2 road all the way from Őiauliai to Panevė×ys so effectively connecting Vilnius and Őiauliai via Motorway/Expressway). All traffic from Vilnius to Riga and Tallinn also goes via A2 and so does most of the traffic from Minsk

The condition of A2 is rather mixed. The road normally goes in a straight line with few turns. Existing turns are very gentle and do not require to slow down even at very high speeds (i.e. even if you're illegally overspeeding ). In this aspect it is a great road which is a pleasure to drive on.

The bad sides, in my opinion sre at least two: surface quality being one of them. The surface quality is mixed depending on the stretch. Some distances are rather nice with even and smooth surface however many stretches are rather uneven or at least not smooth (still not that bad to cause any problems going at 130km/h). New patches of asphalt will not help so it will require surface reconstruction in many stretches over the next couple of years.

Another problem is the existance of non grade separated U turns. I think there are at least 5 of them throughot the distance. This doesn't cause much trouble yet since traffic volumes hardly reach 10000 cars per day (in the stretch between Ukmergė and Panevė×ys it's only around 5000) but it is clear that this will have to change because traffic levels are constantly increasing and non grade separated U turns will have to go or else the road status will have to be downgraded from a motorway to a regular 2+2 road along with maximum allowed speed which at present is 130km/h. This once happened to A1 Vilnius-Kaunas stretch which lost its motorway status some time in the 90's and will probably not get it back before 2015 after all necessary adjustments will be done.

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Distance covered: about 130km

Starting in the Northern part of Vilnius. it would make sense to widen the road to 3+3 in the outer parts of the city and nearby areas outside of city limits because of higher traffic volumes. This is especially evident after warm summer weekends when many Vilnians drive back from their short weekend "holidays" in rural areas and lakes. Under such circumstances incoming traffic going towards Vilnius often causes traffic jams starting a few kilometers away from the city. The whole stretch in the northern part of Vilnius requires a complete reconstruction and re-configuration of how the road interacts with the nearby streets and areas because due to spontaneous and unbalanced development of the surrounding areas it was turned into a mix of traffic-lights, level junctions, pedestrian crossings and so on. It just slows the traffic down and causes unnecessary pollution and noise
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City boundary
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As you can see even in this pic, even the outgoing traffic on a regular day is quite intense. An extra lane is what should solve the problem before more than 50 or so % of the traffic would get distributed to the nearby suburbs and towns
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Lexus and Toyota dealerships near A2 just outside Vilnius
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Better to fill the tank before a long journey
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Still quite busy
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Motorway starts a couple kms outside the city boundary. By that time traffic becomes much less intense... and much faster
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Someone was very smart to put the sign behind the fence
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Signage of Lithuanian roads did not change much since the 1990 and that is another problem. I guess it would not be a bad idea to simply copy/paste German or Dutch signage system because the current situation is hardly acceptable and unless you are local or highly experienced in this region, navigating without a sat-nav may get difficult
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About 20km from Vilnius near Maišiagala town
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A BMW in the left lane is not only typical to Germany
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By A2 standards this almost amounts to a traffic jam
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Signs of new design. Looks much better than the old design althoguh till there is something I dislike about them. Just too basic and uninformative
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Speed limit to 110km/h
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An interesting car on the road (the one on the right, of course ). You could see plenty of those some 15-20 years ago but today it's a rare species. LADA 1200 (VAZ-2101) was the primary "family car" in the USSR in the 70's (later followed by modifications throughout the 80's and even to the 90's in the modern day Russia). LADA 1200 was basically a Fiat 124 dedicated for Soviet market as well as countries of what was then known as the Communist bloc. My parents used to own one of those in the 80s as did many families who owned a car back in those days. Those who still own one should be happy because they're already going up in price as classic cars.
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Information sight about some road reconstruction. Not sure what it was about but I guess it was some stuff co-financed by the EU that took place a couple of years back since those signs stay on for a while.
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The most scenic part of A2 near Ukmergė about 70km from Vilnius
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The road does a very long and gentle turn down the hill towards Ukmergė town. The most beautiful spot of A2
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110km/h. A speed camera was present as well
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Bridge over River Šventoji
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The yellow sign on the right says "This year on this road 1 person was killed and 3 injured". Just a few years ago Lithuania had the worst record of traffic deaths per capita in the whole of EU. The situation changed for good over the last few years after improved safety standards on roads and public campaigns for safety on while driving. Still alot of work to do though because numbers of deaths remain higher than EU average
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After Ukmergė the landscape becomes completely flat and boring with only bushes and forest
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Some cleaning would help here
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Surface quality is far from perfect
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Panevėžys region boundary
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End of motorway near Paanevė×ys
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Panevė×ys city to the right while straight is for Riga and Őiauliai via A17 also known as Panevė×ys Bypass which was constructed some time around 1998 along with full completion of the A2 itself
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After the end of A2 we're on A17 Panevėžys Bypass advancing towards Riga and Šiauliai


A17 (E272/E67)


We'll go on E67 (Via Baltica) for a few kms and Panevėžys Bypass A17. Note, the numebrs on Google maps are wrong. Technically the bypass is NOT A10 or A2 but A17


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End of 2+2
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Panevėžys Bypass A17
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A17 is a simple 1+1 road with a single non grade separated junction and paved hard shoulders capable to accommodate (just about) a light vehicle
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A typical view on E67 in Lithuania
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Level junction with 195 national road
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Cops measuring speed. Police measuring speed is no longer common in Lithuania but there was some sort of speeding prevention campaign going on that weekend. I saw lots of police cars on the road during those few days
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New suburban quarter of houses near Panevėžys
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Approaching the junction with A9. Going straight would bring us to Riga while going left will get us to Šiauliai
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Edit: SSC time machine messing around

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