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Old March 4th, 2009, 04:00 PM   #41
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so is there a ring road already around Vilnius?
Still some links are missing. Here is a nice map of Vilnius infrastructure projects:
http://www.vilnius.lt/bplanas/files/...20m50000_2.jpg
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Old March 4th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #42
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Thanks for the map, Xmaster! So it's more of an "inner" bypass, not so far from the downtown.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #43
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It seems that Lithuanians are more effective than Latvians when it comes to road and bridges building (cost, time, quality,...)
Maybe you should build a few of them in Latvia too
Maybe there is less black sheep then good white sheep decision makers working for citizens after all.

Small question, out of context: Is the minimum amount of money to live at least equal to the minimum of money retired people receive?

Answer to this question could give hints on good management or not...
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Old March 4th, 2009, 08:50 PM   #44
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ChrisZwolle: yes it's a part of A3
Verso: yes, it's more like inner bypass, because it's inside city, not outside. Unfortunately Vilnius doesn't has a proper ringroad.
Micrav: thanks for a compliment for lithuanian road builders But there are also some problems in this sector. Like corrupction, because orders to build some roads get companies, which have some connection with parliament and parties... So for example in A1 road between Vilnius and Kaunas they waste money to repave asphalt instead of widening shoulders or building some viaducts, what would help for Vilnius-Kaunas expressway to get motorway status.
And answer to your second question: minimum amount of money to live is not equal to the minimum of money retired people receive. It's close, but retired people still have to save money quite much.
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Old March 5th, 2009, 08:34 PM   #45
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Does this new bypass start at that place were one of the motorways in to Vilnius (earlier) just ended in the middle of nowhere?
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Old March 5th, 2009, 10:53 PM   #46
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Here you go:
[IMG]http://foto.************//inkelti/20061021/Pietinis3.JPG[/IMG]
Congratulations

This is very important part of Vilnius road network, at least from my perspective. Now access to Vilnius Airport from Kaunas direction should be much, much easier.

It was horrible before. I hope I will test this road soon when I will visit Vilnius

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Old March 6th, 2009, 10:35 AM   #47
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Vilnius bypass



First stage - Southern bypass (completed 2008)
Second stage - First part of western bypass (existing, under reconstruction 2009-2010)
Third stage - Western bypass (under construction 2009-2010) (construction planned 2010-2012)
Fourth stage - Northern bypass (planned)
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Old March 6th, 2009, 12:02 PM   #48
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Any plans for a eastern bypass?
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Old March 6th, 2009, 12:29 PM   #49
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There are some plans, but not serious yet
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...mosistema9.jpg
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Old March 6th, 2009, 07:38 PM   #50
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RipleyLV: eastern bypass isn't so important like western, so priority is western and northern bypass and then maybe eastern.
bablo: Yes - it's very important junction. Before this one it was almost just a 1 road to reach Vilnius airport. Now it's much better and it's also easier to reach airport from Kaunas direction.
Norsko: yes, exactly
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Old March 6th, 2009, 11:26 PM   #51
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cool road projects!! but I wonder why there's no such plans for eastern part of Vilnius?
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Old March 7th, 2009, 12:37 AM   #52
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Perhaps b/c it's so close to Belarus that not so much traffic is generating east of Vilnius?
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Old March 7th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #53
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If you take a look to Lithuanian main roads map:

You can see, that on eastern side there aren't any important roads with a high traffic density. That's why it's not important to have it. So I think it's better to invest money somewhere else - into more important projects.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 11:15 PM   #54
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It would still be nice, if A3 was a motorway though.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 11:49 PM   #55
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It would create more room for the truck queue (if there is any at that border), that's for sure
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Old March 7th, 2009, 11:52 PM   #56
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I'd rather see a North-south motorway along A5, A8 and A10. I don't think transit traffic to Belarus is that big that it requires a motorway in short term planning.
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Old March 8th, 2009, 03:42 PM   #57
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I'd rather see a North-south motorway along A5, A8 and A10. I don't think transit traffic to Belarus is that big that it requires a motorway in short term planning.
Exactly! It's a big need to build motorway along A5, A8 and A10, because it's Via Baltica road (E67). Lots of trucks, so traffic density is high. There were some news about motorway between Kaunas and Marijampole (A5 road) some time ago, but now I can't find any news. Maybe they have problems with funds or land plots owners...
Edit: Found something about start in years 2011, but not precise date. Difficult to find any information about that. Anyway, I found .pdf with technical project of making another 2 lanes in in Kaunas-Marijampole road.

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Old March 8th, 2009, 04:47 PM   #58
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Do you have a traffic volume map of Vilnius?

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There were some news about motorway between Kaunas and Marijampole (A5 road) some time ago, but now I can't find any news. Maybe they have problems with funds or land plots owners...
Edit: Found something about start in years 2011, but not precise date. Difficult to find any information about that. Anyway, I found .pdf with technical project of making another 2 lanes in in Kaunas-Marijampole road.
Those are great news! The only problem may be as you said, with land plot owners. The road doesn't pass through populated areas, so there will be no need to built new bypasses. You just need to build another 2 laned road and bridges, viaducts...
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Old March 8th, 2009, 07:45 PM   #59
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I think there's a big need to build a motorway from Panevezys to Kaunas and maybe even lengthen this road to LV border!
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Old March 8th, 2009, 07:55 PM   #60
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I believe there is bigger need for a motorway on A6 rather than on A10 because A6 is main central European connection with Russia. While A10 is used only by Latvian and Estonian and rare Finnish transport.
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