[LT] Highways & Motorways in Lithuania • Lietuvos keliai - Page 4

Xmaster · March 8th, 2009, 09:12 PM

Yes, but if you check road density maps (2006 data):
Traffic density:

Traffic density by trucks:

You can see, that if you take numbers near borders - traffic density is higher in Via Baltica road, not on A6 road. For example if you compare numbers in traffic density - 2361 per day near border in A10 road and 1400 near border in A6 road.
And in traffic density map by trucks - 1062 near border in A10 road and 650 per day in A6 road.
It's bad, that there is just a map of this region, which can be accessed by public prople, so can't see numbers from other regions of Lithuania.

***ChrisZwolle*** · March 8th, 2009, 10:29 PM

A 25% truck split requires at least some safe passing lanes, and preferrably grade-separation.

Majestic · March 8th, 2009, 11:11 PM

4000 - 6000 AADT is not much at all. Most main 1x2 highways in Poland get AADT of around 15 000 with similar truck share.

RipleyLV · March 9th, 2009, 11:49 AM

What AADT is on A1 Kaunas-Vilnius?

Xmaster · March 9th, 2009, 12:36 PM

No idea. They post just a small piece of traffic density map

Maybe I will find whole map later.
Edit: Found year 2005 data, that on A1 between Vilnius and Kaunas AADT was around 30 000. So now it should be higher, because data is 3 years old.
In A5 Between Kaunas and Polish border around 15 000 per day
And road with the biggest traffic density in Lithuania is northern bypass of Kaunas with up to 55 000 per day (according year 2008 data).

RipleyLV · March 9th, 2009, 02:22 PM

^ It could be around 50 000 now and I think it's the busiest road in Lithuania, am I right?

Xmaster · March 9th, 2009, 02:35 PM

Yes, should be bussiest road. 1 website says, that annual growth rate of traffic density on A1 between Vilnius and Kaunas is 7%, so now it could be something around 38 000 per day.

Triceratops · March 9th, 2009, 10:17 PM

if so, why don't they expand the existing 2x2 highway there by 3x3?

Xmaster · March 9th, 2009, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triceratops

if so, why don't they expand the existing 2x2 highway there by 3x3?

Good question. We also can't find such answer

Because 3 lanes question is always discussed, but I don't know why we still have 3 lanes. Every year there is a big waste of money in repavement of existing asphalt instead of making 2x3 or upgrading this to motorway standard road

There were some rumors about such plans, but now there are no news or plans of making 2x3. And it's neccessery to build 2x3 on northern bypass of Kaunas, because following picture shows situation the best. Truck uses sometimes 2nd lane for overtaking of cars and slow downs all traffic:

RipleyLV · March 9th, 2009, 10:40 PM

Yeah, this picture clearly shows situation on Kaunas northern bypass and trucks overtaking cars.

But that's a common thing in Lithuania even on other main roads cars drive very slow and trucks overtake them.

Verso · March 9th, 2009, 11:55 PM

Neither 55,000, let alone 38,000 isn't even nearly required for 3+3. Let alone 3×3.

Majestic · March 10th, 2009, 12:24 AM

Yeah, but having reserve already in the median make it easy to upgrade

Rebasepoiss · March 11th, 2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verso

Neither 55,000, let alone 38,000 isn't even nearly required for 3+3. Let alone 3×3.

A short section of Tallinn-Narva highway near Tallinn is planned to be reconstructed to 2x3. AADT is around 35 000. Waste of money, eh?

(Mostly EU money, so...

)

Verso · March 11th, 2009, 08:27 PM

^ I suggest 3×3.

***ChrisZwolle*** · March 11th, 2009, 08:37 PM

3x3 =

|!|!|!|**|!|!|!|**|!|!|!|

Triceratops · March 11th, 2009, 08:48 PM

that's exactly my expressed opinion before!

Verso · March 11th, 2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle

3x3 =

|!|!|!|**|!|!|!|**|!|!|!|

I know.

Xmaster · March 21st, 2009, 04:37 PM

Yesterday i drove from Vilnius to Riga airport. I made some pictures.
Trip summary:
Lenght: 310 km
Time needed: 3h 20 min (Driving on speed limits + 10 km/h)
Roads I used in Lithuania: A2 (E272) Vilnius-Panevezys and A10 (E67) Panevėžys - Latvia border
In Latvia: A7 (E67) and A5 (E22) eastern bypass of Riga

Let's start
Leaving Vilnius 2x2 but not motorway yet

Highway sign - I can drive faster. We have variable speed limit for motorways. During winter (from 1st of November till 1st of April) is 110 km/h and during summer season (from 1st of April till 1st of November) is 130 km/h. So still 1 month to be allowed to drive 130 km/h.

Motorway

"Le Meridien Vilnius" Hotel on the right

And I found in their website quite nice road and hotel panoramic view from top

Junction with a local road

Let's take a look to rear view mirror

Overtake of some trucks

Again junction with a local road

Motorway

Quite nice landscape. Almost middle of motorway Vilnius - Panevėžys near Ukmergė town

Say hi to police on the left

Approaching a junction with A6 (E262) road Kaunas - Utena - Zarasai - Daugavpils (LV)

Exit to A6 road

It says, that this year in this road Died: 0 , Injured: 0. So glad to hear

Then motorway becomes a bit boring because landscape is pure flat

The end of motorway after 800 meters

The end of motorway

Approaching junction with "Via Baltica" (E67) road

Panevėžys western bypass is marked as A17 road. Still 155 km to Ryga/Riga

The end of 2x2

On western bypass of Panevėžys. Say hi to trucks, because we are driving on "Via Baltica"

European Union promotion in front of built viaduct and junction with A9 road form Panevėžys (5th biggest in Lithuania) to Šiauliai (4th biggest)

Polish truck driver in a front

My most favourite fuel station "Statoil". Fuel price was 0,95 €/liter

Superb road qualitty and wide enough

Hooray. Even a hungarian truck driver (and after some kilometers I overtook slovakian truck driver)

Last kilometer in Lithuania

Welcome to Latvia (old customs buldings on the left). It's quite annoying - we are in Schengen zone, but Latvians stoped me to check my passport/ID

First kilometers in Latvia

Quite good road

Entering and passing Bauska town - could be great to have a bypass of it

Approaching and passing Iecava town

Newly built railroad bridge

This have to be repaved

Approaching roundabout near Riga

Short 2x2 before junction

Driving on A5 - western bypass of Riga. Road qualitty isn't very good

Few kilometers of 2x2 (a question for latvians: what is a speed limit on 2x2?)

Approaching a junction with Jurmala road

Roadworks on a bridge

The end

RipleyLV · March 21st, 2009, 05:09 PM

Thanks for the nice report Xmaster!

It would be nice of you, if you could post those pics of Latvian roads in the Latvian highway thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xmaster

Few kilometers of 2x2 (a question for latvians: what is a speed limit on 2x2?)

90/100 km/h.

Verso · March 21st, 2009, 06:59 PM

Great pics, great roads!

Those 2-lane roads are so wide!

March 8th, 2009, 09:12 PM	#61
Xmaster Lithuanian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vilnius, LT Posts: 360 Likes (Received): 20	Yes, but if you check road density maps (2006 data): Traffic density: Traffic density by trucks: You can see, that if you take numbers near borders - traffic density is higher in Via Baltica road, not on A6 road. For example if you compare numbers in traffic density - 2361 per day near border in A10 road and 1400 near border in A6 road. And in traffic density map by trucks - 1062 near border in A10 road and 650 per day in A6 road. It's bad, that there is just a map of this region, which can be accessed by public prople, so can't see numbers from other regions of Lithuania. Last edited by Xmaster; March 9th, 2009 at 02:16 PM.

March 8th, 2009, 10:29 PM	#62
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,991 Likes (Received): 634	A 25% truck split requires at least some safe passing lanes, and preferrably grade-separation. __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

March 9th, 2009, 12:36 PM	#65
Xmaster Lithuanian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vilnius, LT Posts: 360 Likes (Received): 20	No idea. They post just a small piece of traffic density map Maybe I will find whole map later. Edit: Found year 2005 data, that on A1 between Vilnius and Kaunas AADT was around 30 000. So now it should be higher, because data is 3 years old. In A5 Between Kaunas and Polish border around 15 000 per day And road with the biggest traffic density in Lithuania is northern bypass of Kaunas with up to 55 000 per day (according year 2008 data). Last edited by Xmaster; March 9th, 2009 at 02:26 PM.

March 9th, 2009, 10:17 PM	#68
Triceratops Labor Omnia Vincit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Riga Posts: 3,649 Likes (Received): 1	if so, why don't they expand the existing 2x2 highway there by 3x3? __________________ There are no borders, there are only obstacles

March 9th, 2009, 11:55 PM	#71
Verso Synchronized User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 19,476 Likes (Received): 550	Neither 55,000, let alone 38,000 isn't even nearly required for 3+3. Let alone 3×3. __________________ take a ride on slovenian highways

March 8th, 2009, 11:11 PM	#63
Majestic AnnoDominiHighDefinition Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: POZnan* (PL) Posts: 746 Likes (Received): 0	4000 - 6000 AADT is not much at all. Most main 1x2 highways in Poland get AADT of around 15 000 with similar truck share.

March 9th, 2009, 11:49 AM	#64
RipleyLV Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jelgava Posts: 3,200 Likes (Received): 158	What AADT is on A1 Kaunas-Vilnius?

March 9th, 2009, 02:22 PM	#66
RipleyLV Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jelgava Posts: 3,200 Likes (Received): 158	^ It could be around 50 000 now and I think it's the busiest road in Lithuania, am I right?

March 9th, 2009, 02:35 PM	#67
Xmaster Lithuanian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vilnius, LT Posts: 360 Likes (Received): 20	Yes, should be bussiest road. 1 website says, that annual growth rate of traffic density on A1 between Vilnius and Kaunas is 7%, so now it could be something around 38 000 per day.

March 9th, 2009, 10:40 PM	#70
RipleyLV Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jelgava Posts: 3,200 Likes (Received): 158	Yeah, this picture clearly shows situation on Kaunas northern bypass and trucks overtaking cars. But that's a common thing in Lithuania even on other main roads cars drive very slow and trucks overtake them.

March 10th, 2009, 12:24 AM	#72
Majestic AnnoDominiHighDefinition Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: POZnan* (PL) Posts: 746 Likes (Received): 0	Yeah, but having reserve already in the median make it easy to upgrade

March 11th, 2009, 08:27 PM	#74
Verso Synchronized User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 19,476 Likes (Received): 550	^ I suggest 3×3. __________________ take a ride on slovenian highways

March 11th, 2009, 08:37 PM	#75
*ChrisZwolle* Road user Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zwolle Posts: 28,991 Likes (Received): 634	3x3 = \|!\|!\|!\|\|!\|!\|!\|\|!\|!\|!\| __________________ Visit the Highways & Autobahns section! my clinched highways • highway pictures @ Flickr and Youtube

March 11th, 2009, 08:48 PM	#76
Triceratops Labor Omnia Vincit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Riga Posts: 3,649 Likes (Received): 1	that's exactly my expressed opinion before! __________________ There are no borders, there are only obstacles

March 21st, 2009, 04:37 PM	#78
Xmaster Lithuanian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vilnius, LT Posts: 360 Likes (Received): 20	Yesterday i drove from Vilnius to Riga airport. I made some pictures. Trip summary: Lenght: 310 km Time needed: 3h 20 min (Driving on speed limits + 10 km/h) Roads I used in Lithuania: A2 (E272) Vilnius-Panevezys and A10 (E67) Panevėžys - Latvia border In Latvia: A7 (E67) and A5 (E22) eastern bypass of Riga Let's start Leaving Vilnius 2x2 but not motorway yet Highway sign - I can drive faster. We have variable speed limit for motorways. During winter (from 1st of November till 1st of April) is 110 km/h and during summer season (from 1st of April till 1st of November) is 130 km/h. So still 1 month to be allowed to drive 130 km/h. Motorway "Le Meridien Vilnius" Hotel on the right And I found in their website quite nice road and hotel panoramic view from top Junction with a local road Let's take a look to rear view mirror Overtake of some trucks Again junction with a local road Motorway Quite nice landscape. Almost middle of motorway Vilnius - Panevėžys near Ukmergė town Say hi to police on the left Approaching a junction with A6 (E262) road Kaunas - Utena - Zarasai - Daugavpils (LV) Exit to A6 road It says, that this year in this road Died: 0 , Injured: 0. So glad to hear Then motorway becomes a bit boring because landscape is pure flat The end of motorway after 800 meters The end of motorway Approaching junction with "Via Baltica" (E67) road Panevėžys western bypass is marked as A17 road. Still 155 km to Ryga/Riga The end of 2x2 On western bypass of Panevėžys. Say hi to trucks, because we are driving on "Via Baltica" European Union promotion in front of built viaduct and junction with A9 road form Panevėžys (5th biggest in Lithuania) to Šiauliai (4th biggest) Polish truck driver in a front My most favourite fuel station "Statoil". Fuel price was 0,95 €/liter Superb road qualitty and wide enough Hooray. Even a hungarian truck driver (and after some kilometers I overtook slovakian truck driver) Last kilometer in Lithuania Welcome to Latvia (old customs buldings on the left). It's quite annoying - we are in Schengen zone, but Latvians stoped me to check my passport/ID First kilometers in Latvia Quite good road Entering and passing Bauska town - could be great to have a bypass of it Approaching and passing Iecava town Newly built railroad bridge This have to be repaved Approaching roundabout near Riga Short 2x2 before junction Driving on A5 - western bypass of Riga. Road qualitty isn't very good Few kilometers of 2x2 (a question for latvians: what is a speed limit on 2x2?) Approaching a junction with Jurmala road Roadworks on a bridge The end Last edited by Xmaster; March 22nd, 2009 at 03:03 PM.

March 21st, 2009, 06:59 PM	#80
Verso Synchronized User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 19,476 Likes (Received): 550	Great pics, great roads! Those 2-lane roads are so wide! __________________ take a ride on slovenian highways

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