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Old March 8th, 2009, 10:12 PM   #61
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Yes, but if you check road density maps (2006 data):
Traffic density:


Traffic density by trucks:


You can see, that if you take numbers near borders - traffic density is higher in Via Baltica road, not on A6 road. For example if you compare numbers in traffic density - 2361 per day near border in A10 road and 1400 near border in A6 road.
And in traffic density map by trucks - 1062 near border in A10 road and 650 per day in A6 road.
It's bad, that there is just a map of this region, which can be accessed by public prople, so can't see numbers from other regions of Lithuania.

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Old March 8th, 2009, 11:29 PM   #62
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A 25% truck split requires at least some safe passing lanes, and preferrably grade-separation.
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Old March 9th, 2009, 12:11 AM   #63
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4000 - 6000 AADT is not much at all. Most main 1x2 highways in Poland get AADT of around 15 000 with similar truck share.
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Old March 9th, 2009, 12:49 PM   #64
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What AADT is on A1 Kaunas-Vilnius?
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Old March 9th, 2009, 01:36 PM   #65
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No idea. They post just a small piece of traffic density map Maybe I will find whole map later.
Edit: Found year 2005 data, that on A1 between Vilnius and Kaunas AADT was around 30 000. So now it should be higher, because data is 3 years old.
In A5 Between Kaunas and Polish border around 15 000 per day
And road with the biggest traffic density in Lithuania is northern bypass of Kaunas with up to 55 000 per day (according year 2008 data).

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Old March 9th, 2009, 03:22 PM   #66
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^ It could be around 50 000 now and I think it's the busiest road in Lithuania, am I right?
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Old March 9th, 2009, 03:35 PM   #67
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Yes, should be bussiest road. 1 website says, that annual growth rate of traffic density on A1 between Vilnius and Kaunas is 7%, so now it could be something around 38 000 per day.
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Old March 9th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #68
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if so, why don't they expand the existing 2x2 highway there by 3x3?
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Old March 9th, 2009, 11:27 PM   #69
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if so, why don't they expand the existing 2x2 highway there by 3x3?
Good question. We also can't find such answer Because 3 lanes question is always discussed, but I don't know why we still have 3 lanes. Every year there is a big waste of money in repavement of existing asphalt instead of making 2x3 or upgrading this to motorway standard road There were some rumors about such plans, but now there are no news or plans of making 2x3. And it's neccessery to build 2x3 on northern bypass of Kaunas, because following picture shows situation the best. Truck uses sometimes 2nd lane for overtaking of cars and slow downs all traffic:

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Old March 9th, 2009, 11:40 PM   #70
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Yeah, this picture clearly shows situation on Kaunas northern bypass and trucks overtaking cars. But that's a common thing in Lithuania even on other main roads cars drive very slow and trucks overtake them.
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Old March 10th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #71
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Neither 55,000, let alone 38,000 isn't even nearly required for 3+3. Let alone 3×3.
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Old March 10th, 2009, 01:24 AM   #72
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Yeah, but having reserve already in the median make it easy to upgrade
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Old March 11th, 2009, 05:46 PM   #73
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Neither 55,000, let alone 38,000 isn't even nearly required for 3+3. Let alone 3×3.
A short section of Tallinn-Narva highway near Tallinn is planned to be reconstructed to 2x3. AADT is around 35 000. Waste of money, eh? (Mostly EU money, so...)

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Old March 11th, 2009, 09:27 PM   #74
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^ I suggest 3×3.
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Old March 11th, 2009, 09:37 PM   #75
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3x3 =


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Old March 11th, 2009, 09:48 PM   #76
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that's exactly my expressed opinion before!
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Old March 11th, 2009, 10:13 PM   #77
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Quote:
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3x3 =


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I know.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 05:37 PM   #78
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Yesterday i drove from Vilnius to Riga airport. I made some pictures.
Trip summary:
Lenght: 310 km
Time needed: 3h 20 min (Driving on speed limits + 10 km/h)
Roads I used in Lithuania: A2 (E272) Vilnius-Panevezys and A10 (E67) Panevėžys - Latvia border
In Latvia: A7 (E67) and A5 (E22) eastern bypass of Riga

Let's start
Leaving Vilnius 2x2 but not motorway yet


Highway sign - I can drive faster. We have variable speed limit for motorways. During winter (from 1st of November till 1st of April) is 110 km/h and during summer season (from 1st of April till 1st of November) is 130 km/h. So still 1 month to be allowed to drive 130 km/h.


Motorway




"Le Meridien Vilnius" Hotel on the right


And I found in their website quite nice road and hotel panoramic view from top


Junction with a local road


Let's take a look to rear view mirror


Overtake of some trucks


Again junction with a local road


Motorway


Quite nice landscape. Almost middle of motorway Vilnius - Panevėžys near Ukmergė town


Say hi to police on the left


Approaching a junction with A6 (E262) road Kaunas - Utena - Zarasai - Daugavpils (LV)


Exit to A6 road


It says, that this year in this road Died: 0 , Injured: 0. So glad to hear


Then motorway becomes a bit boring because landscape is pure flat


The end of motorway after 800 meters


The end of motorway


Approaching junction with "Via Baltica" (E67) road



Panevėžys western bypass is marked as A17 road. Still 155 km to Ryga/Riga


The end of 2x2


On western bypass of Panevėžys. Say hi to trucks, because we are driving on "Via Baltica"


European Union promotion in front of built viaduct and junction with A9 road form Panevėžys (5th biggest in Lithuania) to Šiauliai (4th biggest)


Polish truck driver in a front


My most favourite fuel station "Statoil". Fuel price was 0,95 €/liter


Superb road qualitty and wide enough



Hooray. Even a hungarian truck driver (and after some kilometers I overtook slovakian truck driver)


Last kilometer in Lithuania


Welcome to Latvia (old customs buldings on the left). It's quite annoying - we are in Schengen zone, but Latvians stoped me to check my passport/ID


First kilometers in Latvia


Quite good road


Entering and passing Bauska town - could be great to have a bypass of it




Approaching and passing Iecava town



Newly built railroad bridge


This have to be repaved


Approaching roundabout near Riga


Short 2x2 before junction


Driving on A5 - western bypass of Riga. Road qualitty isn't very good



Few kilometers of 2x2 (a question for latvians: what is a speed limit on 2x2?)


Approaching a junction with Jurmala road


Roadworks on a bridge


The end

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Old March 21st, 2009, 06:09 PM   #79
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Thanks for the nice report Xmaster! It would be nice of you, if you could post those pics of Latvian roads in the Latvian highway thread!

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Few kilometers of 2x2 (a question for latvians: what is a speed limit on 2x2?)
90/100 km/h.

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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:59 PM   #80
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Great pics, great roads! Those 2-lane roads are so wide!
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