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Old February 8th, 2017, 11:18 AM   #1561
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A new bridge over Daugava for Via Baltica will be built, te whoule route from Bauska until Saulkrasti (including Riga bypass and Daugava bridge) is planned as a motorway. The current road is a bottleneck with the avarage AADT ranging from 10,000 to 25,000 cars.

Anyway, this should be discussed un the Latvian thread, so if there are other LV road reletad questions, let's talk about it over here.
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Old February 8th, 2017, 03:36 PM   #1562
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So let's return to the Lithuanian part of Via Baltica.

Are there any serious bottlenecks? After driving a few times I don't remember any. The part south of Kaunas is being improved and that's good, but north of Kaunas I'm not sure if there are any urgencies.
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So let's return to the Lithuanian part of Via Baltica.

Are there any serious bottlenecks? After driving a few times I don't remember any. The part south of Kaunas is being improved and that's good, but north of Kaunas I'm not sure if there are any urgencies.
No, there are no bottlenecks in Lithuania. However, some parts both south and north from Kaunas are prone to traffic accidents, mostly due to dangerous overtaking, and are considered as quite dangerous. One of such spots is the bypass of Panevezys, which will be one of the first stretches to be reconstructed to alternating 2+1 with a median barrier.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 01:54 AM   #1564
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indeed, depending on the depth... extend A 4 to P 85 ?

The Hoover Dam in USA that previously carried US 93 was bypassed lately by a large bridge. Traffic volume wasn't so bad, but the Americans were concerned of terrorists damaging the dam :o
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No, there are no bottlenecks in Lithuania. However, some parts both south and north from Kaunas are prone to traffic accidents, mostly due to dangerous overtaking, and are considered as quite dangerous. One of such spots is the bypass of Panevezys, which will be one of the first stretches to be reconstructed to alternating 2+1 with a median barrier.
There are bottlenecks in Lithuania. Maybe not a lot, but there are.
It is sufficient to drive around Vilnius to notice them and IMHO grade-separated crossings must be made:
- A4 Galvės gatvė: 2 traffic lights provoking unnecessary traffic jams, especially during weekends. This is a place where all Vilniečiai drive towards Trakai and Southwestern Lithuania & Russia's Kaliningrad oblast drive along with people driving towards Southern Lithuania (Alytus, Lazdijai, Druskininkai) and Poland.
- Gariūnų gatvė, around the Gariūnai flea market. Traffic jams provoked by unnecessarily-made traffic lights. Moreover, this junction (the Westwards exit from the flea market) is so terribly made (although it now looks better aesthetically than on Google Street View), just around 100 meters before the junction with the Vilnius-Kaunas expressway, that it provokes additional traffic jams, and sometimes accidents!
- The junction between Laisvės pr. and Oslo g., despite a recent improvement, is so terribly made that it is not uncommon for people driving from Grigiškės and Karoliniškės to waste 20-25min.driving Eastwards.
- from Tūkstanmečio g. to the big roundabout: lots of traffic jams.
- The Gerosios Vilties g./Geležino Vilko g. junction is terrible too. Big traffic jams guaranteed at peak hours.
- The Liepkalnio g. (A15)/A3(E28) road Vilnius-Medininkai(Minsk): many terrible traffic jams. It is not uncommon to was 30 min. Lots of people get stuck, because of this particular crossroads, 2 km down the hill, near the Rasos old cemetery! I heard there are conceptions of making this crossroads grade-separated. It's high time!
- Ozo g./Kareivių g.: terrible traffic jams every morning and evening, no matter where you drive from.
- Žvalgų g./Verkių g.: terrible traffic jams in the morning - lots of people try to escape the Ozo/Kareivių/Kalvarijų crossroads.
- Geležinio Vilko g. between Ozas and Šaltoniškės: mega-traffic jams in the morning. And also Ukmergės g. between Fabijoniškės and Šaltoniškės: megatraffic jams in the morning. Both are provoked by the same unnecessarily-made traffic lights. I never understood why they made a bridge only Northwards (towards Šeškinė) and they never made it Southwards.
- Žvėjų g. and Upės g., between Šnipiškės and Žvėrynas: every evening, driving there is absolutely terrible. And no escape once you're stuck because traffic jams are also close to Forum Palace.
-Sėlių g.: wanna get out of Žvėrynas after work? Keep dreaming! They should make a mini-tunnel.
- Teodoro Narbuto g./Pilaitės pr.: they should at least a 1x1 make a tunnel here.

Moreover, they could make an Alytus Southern bypass for those driving to Lazdijai and Poland, even if it's 1x2. It would be useful. Same for a Trakai bypass and a Marijampolė Southern bypass (lots of trucks driving between Kaliningrad and Belarus). I've got a lot of such conceptions in my head, for which although I'm not a specialist in this matter I'm pretty confident Lithuania could get EU-funds.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 01:59 PM   #1566
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There are bottlenecks in Lithuania. Maybe not a lot, but there are.
It is sufficient to drive around Vilnius to notice them and IMHO grade-separated crossings must be made:
- A4 Galvės gatvė: 2 traffic lights provoking unnecessary traffic jams, especially during weekends. This is a place where all Vilniečiai drive towards Trakai and Southwestern Lithuania & Russia's Kaliningrad oblast drive along with people driving towards Southern Lithuania (Alytus, Lazdijai, Druskininkai) and Poland.
- Gariūnų gatvė, around the Gariūnai flea market. Traffic jams provoked by unnecessarily-made traffic lights. Moreover, this junction (the Westwards exit from the flea market) is so terribly made (although it now looks better aesthetically than on Google Street View), just around 100 meters before the junction with the Vilnius-Kaunas expressway, that it provokes additional traffic jams, and sometimes accidents!
- The junction between Laisvės pr. and Oslo g., despite a recent improvement, is so terribly made that it is not uncommon for people driving from Grigiškės and Karoliniškės to waste 20-25min.driving Eastwards.
- from Tūkstanmečio g. to the big roundabout: lots of traffic jams.
- The Gerosios Vilties g./Geležino Vilko g. junction is terrible too. Big traffic jams guaranteed at peak hours.
- The Liepkalnio g. (A15)/A3(E28) road Vilnius-Medininkai(Minsk): many terrible traffic jams. It is not uncommon to was 30 min. Lots of people get stuck, because of this particular crossroads, 2 km down the hill, near the Rasos old cemetery! I heard there are conceptions of making this crossroads grade-separated. It's high time!
- Ozo g./Kareivių g.: terrible traffic jams every morning and evening, no matter where you drive from.
- Žvalgų g./Verkių g.: terrible traffic jams in the morning - lots of people try to escape the Ozo/Kareivių/Kalvarijų crossroads.
- Geležinio Vilko g. between Ozas and Šaltoniškės: mega-traffic jams in the morning. And also Ukmergės g. between Fabijoniškės and Šaltoniškės: megatraffic jams in the morning. Both are provoked by the same unnecessarily-made traffic lights. I never understood why they made a bridge only Northwards (towards Šeškinė) and they never made it Southwards.
- Žvėjų g. and Upės g., between Šnipiškės and Žvėrynas: every evening, driving there is absolutely terrible. And no escape once you're stuck because traffic jams are also close to Forum Palace.
-Sėlių g.: wanna get out of Žvėrynas after work? Keep dreaming! They should make a mini-tunnel.
- Teodoro Narbuto g./Pilaitės pr.: they should at least a 1x1 make a tunnel here.

Moreover, they could make an Alytus Southern bypass for those driving to Lazdijai and Poland, even if it's 1x2. It would be useful. Same for a Trakai bypass and a Marijampolė Southern bypass (lots of trucks driving between Kaliningrad and Belarus). I've got a lot of such conceptions in my head, for which although I'm not a specialist in this matter I'm pretty confident Lithuania could get EU-funds.
I think he meant Via Baltica only. As this was the question by OulaL:

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So let's return to the Lithuanian part of Via Baltica.

Are there any serious bottlenecks? After driving a few times I don't remember any. The part south of Kaunas is being improved and that's good, but north of Kaunas I'm not sure if there are any urgencies.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 03:22 PM   #1567
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I think he meant Via Baltica only. As this was the question by OulaL:
Indeed, I meant just the Lithuanian Via Baltica section.

And yes, while not terrible, the traffic in Vilnius can get a bit nasty sometimes.
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Indeed, I meant just the Lithuanian Via Baltica section.

And yes, while not terrible, the traffic in Vilnius can get a bit nasty sometimes.
Oh, when it's heavily snowing or raining it can get really terrible It happened twice to me to be stuck during 1 hour on Upės g. between the Mindaugas bridge and the VCUP shopping center! I almost felt like during "good" old times in the Paris area ...
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Oh, when it's heavily snowing or raining it can get really terrible It happened twice to me to be stuck during 1 hour on Upės g.
Bad weather does affect traffic, especially in central Vilnius, as a lot of people choose driving instead of walking.

Heavy rain/snowfall alone probably couldn't be the sole reason to be stuck for an hour on Upes g., but if combined with accidents on nearby arterial roads, yup, that can happen from time to time. Especially during pre-Christmas shopping madness or in September, when the city gets crowded after the summer holiday season.

Here's a map with the most prominent bottlenecks in Vilnius marked with circles. Source.



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Morning peak
Red: Traffic congestion
Orange: Queue buildup (whatever it means, probably just stretches less likely to be congested)

Evening peak
Dark blue: Traffic congestion
Light blue: Queue buildup

And here's a bonus map of traffic intensity in Vilnius. Please note that both maps don't include the newly opened stretch of Vilnius Western bypass, which has noticeably redistributed the traffic flow.

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Final tender for a 2x2 motorway construction near Marijampolė on Via Baltica road was released. Therefore now blueprints of this segment could be analysed.
Deadline for a tender is 12/04/2017, therefore if everything will go smoothly, contract should be signed on ~May.
Here is a map of 11,7 km long segment, which will be reconstructed.


I have signed numbers from 1 to 3 on a map and below you can find blueprints for marked junctions:
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More blueprints could be found here: http://www.eviesiejipirkimai.lt/inde...nder_id=326471. Document: "12.pdf"
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And now an info about the Lithuanian/Belarusian Šumskas/Loša border crossing. It is now (since Friday) available for all people and open 24 hours. However, you may drive through only by car or by bike, not by bus, truck nor walk through. (source)

More info on the Lithuanian and Belarusian border guards' office.

I think this is the 1st time Belarus and an EU-country open a fully international border crossing without customs officers, only with border guards! This means you may not cross here if you have something to declare!


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Final tender for a 2x2 motorway construction near Marijampolė on Via Baltica road was released. Therefore now blueprints of this segment could be analysed.
Is it just me, or do some of the exit ramps look awfully short and sharp? Assuming the default speed limit of 130 km/h?
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Is it just me, or do some of the exit ramps look awfully short and sharp? Assuming the default speed limit of 130 km/h?
Looks ok for me. Which ones look too sharp? Maybe you are mixing exit ramps with curves of adjescent roads? Anyway they are designed to meet requirements for such category road, set by the law.
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Looks ok for me. Which ones look too sharp? Maybe you are mixing exit ramps with curves of adjescent roads? Anyway they are designed to meet requirements for such category road, set by the law.
Those in your picture number 3.

What is the speed limit for exiting traffic? The adjacent road connects with the exit ramp quite soon, but that might not be obvious for the motorist exiting the motorway.

After that crossroad the "exit ramp" practically isn't an exit ramp anymore, but an ordinary road that may have non-motorway vehicles such as tractors on it.
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Hi!
I'm driving from Vilnius to Tallinn in May with 3 friends and I've been considering driving through Utena, Biržai and Skaistkalne instead of Panevėžys and Bauska because I hate driving behind trucks all the time (which is what basically happens each time I drive to Riga, on the Panevėžys-Pasvalys and on the Bauska-Ķekava stretches.

I know the road Vilnius-Molėtai-Utena very well, but how is it to drive Utena-Biržai-Germaniškis (Skaistkalne)? Is the road in good condition?

P.S.: I will post similar questions on the LT & EST forums. My question here is only about the Lithuanian part.
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This might largely depend on when specifically do you plan to go. If that would be on a weekend, then the road Vilnius-Utena will be fairly congested as well. It leads to an area spammed with lakes, therefore quite popular with the residents of Vilnius.

The stretch of road 118 Utena-Kupiskis, is not that good. The tarmac is relatively narrow, quite bumpy, and has not seen a proper replacement for quite a while. Onwards from Kupiskis to Birzai on 124 is good. You can go on www.eismoinfo.lt and specifically check the pictures from online cameras to see what I mean .

My honest advise would be to stick to the usual way of A2 + A10. You will gain much more time by going on the highway to Panevezys, and even if you get stranded behind trucks to the Latvian border, it still should be faster than going trough Utena.
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Thanks

Now - more info about the Šumskas/Loša border checkpoint. Sorry for quoting myself, but I'm afraid in the original thread this post will get lost among loads of others

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(...)This Sunday I went to BY there and back for the 1st time this year.

I drove through Medininkai/Kamienny Loh, where it took me around 30min. to cross because of the formalities I will describe below.
I came back through the Loša/Šumskas border crossing, about which you will find more info a couple of pages back. It took me 15min. Strangely, I was checked more in detail on the BY and not on the LT side

Of course, on the Belarusian side they must complicate everything, even when they have simplified something
As a reminder, this used the Loša/Šumskas border checkpoint used to be a local one, which means basically only people living very close to the border line could cross it and it was open only a few hours during the day.
Since February, it is open for anyone that drives a car, a motorcycle or a bike. One specificity of this border crossing is the absence of customs officers. Only borderguards are present.
This is the procedure I had to go through:

1) At Kamienny Loh, I had to make a 3-month temporary import declaration for my car (which means I don't have to fill that every single time I drive to BY ). It costed around 2 EUR. Without doing this, you CAN'T cross at Šumskas/Loša.

2) When I drove back through Loša, they told me on the Belarusian (Loša) side:
- When driving towards BY, I can't bring ANY kind of alcohol. Solely personal stuff.
- When driving towards LT, I can bring, as usual, up to 1L of strong alcohol. The quantity of vegetable/fruits I can bring from the village is limited to 5kg (& up to1kg of each sort)

3) On the Lithuanian side (Šumskas), as I am not a border zone inhabitant, they confirmed me I can bring up to 10L of fuel in a jerrycan as usual. They are aware of what I can/can't bring to Belarus through Loša, which means if you bring something that can't cross the border at this point, Lithuanian borderguards deny access to the Belarusian side.
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So finally public tender was announced for a last segment (12 km long) of A5 road reconstruction to 2x2 motorway between Kaunas and Marijampolė.
Current status:
1. Red line - the segment is currently under construction and it is supposed to be finished by December 2017.
2. Blue line - tender finished a week ago. Soon we should know the winner and expected deadline for works.
3. Yellow line - the tender was announced yesterday. Winner shall be announced by the end of July.


Probably by the end of 2018 we should see whole segment between Kaunas and Marijampolė as 2x2 motorway.

Unfortunately no photos of a segment which is being reconstructed at the moment. Nobody posted recent pics in Lithuanian forum.
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Unfortunately no photos of a segment which is being reconstructed at the moment. Nobody posted recent pics in Lithuanian forum.
The most interesting part will be, when the traffic will shift to 2+2, and main works will be finnished

I can't wait to see other segments under construction
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Those in your picture number 3.

What is the speed limit for exiting traffic? The adjacent road connects with the exit ramp quite soon, but that might not be obvious for the motorist exiting the motorway.

After that crossroad the "exit ramp" practically isn't an exit ramp anymore, but an ordinary road that may have non-motorway vehicles such as tractors on it.
Well, the planned speed near this junction will be 90 km/h, the motorway will end near this junction. For exiting traffic, the speed limit will be reduced to 50 km/h. Plus, there will be a warning sign for a sideroad ahead. Because the reconstruction is planned for about 10 years, my guess is that the planned sharp junctions are from old project, when no one saw the problem from the sharpness of the exit ramp. Newly-form junctions from Marijampolė-Polish border stretch should have smoother ramps.
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