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Old March 15th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #321
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Is this ship going to dock in Chennai? The route doesn't seem like it does.
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Old March 15th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #322
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Is there a limit in stack level of containers (I see 5 levels in this picture)? How does the containers survives without tripping during sudden wave surges/cyclonic conditions.
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Old March 15th, 2011, 11:15 PM   #323
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Is this ship going to dock in Chennai? The route doesn't seem like it does.
Its just a name, doesn't dock here.
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Old March 15th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #324
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Is there a limit in stack level of containers (I see 5 levels in this picture)? How does the containers survives without tripping during sudden wave surges/cyclonic conditions.
don't know much but I heard thousands of containers fall off every year, most of them float so can be taken back.

Oceans are quite calm.... if a storm is approaching, no one would dare go to sea.... if its sudden, i think everything is going to fall down...hehe....that is why weather is very important in shipping and ships prevent that rough route as much as possible.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #325
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Is there a limit in stack level of containers (I see 5 levels in this picture)? How does the containers survives without tripping during sudden wave surges/cyclonic conditions.
There is a NGC documentary series - megastructures. It is available in torrent. Watch "Megaships". It explains all these things in detail.

Basically its all engineering. The containers are tightly locked in compartments and there are lot of other provisions too. I recommend you watch it. You will understand easily how they manage to do it. It is just 40 mins or so. But highly informative. Explaining all those things in words will take days.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 11:02 AM   #326
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Its also similar to that of car stacks on roads. Whenever i spot such trucks, i wonder, how they manage to transport in sloppy hill roads also. It will be scary when you are driving just behind such trucks. (like anytime the cars may slip on you) Even 3 levels up.

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Old March 16th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #328
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There is a NGC documentary series - megastructures. It is available in torrent. Watch "Megaships". It explains all these things in detail.

Basically its all engineering. The containers are tightly locked in compartments and there are lot of other provisions too. I recommend you watch it. You will understand easily how they manage to do it. It is just 40 mins or so. But highly informative. Explaining all those things in words will take days.
Thanks Shyam. Will watch it. It is quite fascinating.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 10:21 AM   #329
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Cars which are stacked & trucked have foot plates & accessories which will prevent them from sliding.

I happen to see a live road accident, where a container slided from the truck on to the road while breaking. I enquired and found that they are supposed to weld the container to the truck while transporting. There are provisions for the sames in all the four corners and at the middle of the sides. I still wonder how they manage without a major accident.

Stacking in the barge & ship is even more bizarre. I was told that an entire chemical plant (newsprint manufacturing) was transported from North Europe to India by a barge attached to a ship at a cost which is fraction of the normal shipping cost.

Technology or Guts ???
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Old March 18th, 2011, 12:25 PM   #330
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every time they will have to weld and cut ?!?! that's little odd. i thought of something like buckle/ screw up will be ok.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 12:53 PM   #331
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I really recommend you two to see that documentary. It answers all your questions. Seku - They are not welded. Maybe it was an old practice (and maybe still practiced in India but modern containers are not welded to the trucks.
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Imports may be hit as major lines decide to skip some Japanese ports

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Chennai, March 17:

Import of electronic parts, automobile spare parts and perishable items from Japan could be affected in the short term as major shipping lines have decided to skip some Japanese ports.

The March 11 earthquake has devastated the north eastern part of Japan making port and operational facilities in the area either unavailable or inaccessible. The earthquake and the subsequent tsunami have affected the entire supply chain in the island.

Chennai Gateway

The telecom and automobile clusters in and around Chennai could be the ‘worst' affected as Chennai port is the gateway to most of the telecom companies for the imports, say sources in the shipping industry.

Every month 3,500-5,000 containers with cargoes as automobile spare parts, electronic parts and perishable items (mostly for Japanese people living here) come to the Chennai port. On the export front, nearly 1,500 boxes with cargoes such as textiles and sea food are sent to Japan every month, said a shipping source.

There is no direct shipping service between Chennai and the Japanese ports. The boxes are transhipped at Singapore, Hong Kong and Port Klang ports. Shipping sources said congestion is slowly building up at the Japanese ports of Yokhoma, Nagoya and Tokyo, and it could spread to the transhipment ports.

Shipping line, OOCL, in a customer advisory said its ships Dresden Express and Kiel Express will omit their Tokyo/Nagoya calls at this stage.
Bookings stopped

APL said with immediate effect it will temporarily cease all bookings destined to Hitachinaka and Kashima in Ibaraki prefecture; Ishinomaki, Ofunato, Shiogama and Sendai in Miyagi prefecture; Onahama and Shirakawa in Fukushima prefecture and Hachinohe in Aomori. Similarly, Maersk said that due to the closures during Friday and Saturday, there is congestion in the ports of Tokyo and Yokohama. There are no commercial restrictions in booking with Maersk Line to or via Japan. However, services to and from Sendai, Hachinohe, and Onahama have been suspended. Depending on how the situation develops, it may be decided to deviate vessels.
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Top Container Ports in the world (Chennai in 86th position)



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There is major competition between Chennai and Colombo. Even though Chennai is a larger port, lots of containers go through Colombo (transshipment).
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Old March 19th, 2011, 03:33 PM   #335
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I find this listing interesting because it put the new mega container terminal investment into perspective..

The 4 million TEU capacity proposed to be added is equal to the entire capacity of JNPT today (I'm sure they have their own expansion plans too, of course)..

Assuming that this actually does come up in the next ten years time, and the top ports in the world don't grow too greatly (most of the top-20 are actually in negative growth as per the chart - let's even assume they all grow 5% YoY) then Chennai could be within knocking distance of the top 20 or 30 ports in the world by the end of the decade..

Interesting.. Let's hope this project doesn't fizzle out..
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Old March 19th, 2011, 03:42 PM   #336
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Expect a big jump when the 2010 rankings are out. I remember reading somewhere that Chennai's handling crossed 1.4 million TEU's last year which will put it somewhere in the 70's.

But it is worrying to see only 2 ports from India. China has 18 (including 3 of the top 5) and US has 10! Afterall container traffic represents finished and high value goods - the cream of world trade and India should have a higher proportion. But the good news is that our busiest port (Mumbai) has handled more than Japan's busiest (Tokyo) for the first time ever!! This is a reason for celebration
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Old March 19th, 2011, 03:44 PM   #337
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I find this listing interesting because it put the new mega container terminal investment into perspective..

The 4 million TEU capacity proposed to be added is equal to the entire capacity of JNPT today (I'm sure they have their own expansion plans too, of course)..
The upcoming mega terminal will take the capacity to 8 million and not 4 million
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According to the Indian Ports Association, India’s ports handled 6.9 million teu between April 2010 and February 2011, up 11% on the same period in 2009/10. India’s largest port, Jawaharlal Nehru, recorded a throughput of 3.9 million teu in the period, an increase of 6% on a year earlier, while Chennai port saw traffic surge by 30% to 1.4 million teu. Kolkata recorded a throughput of 481,000teu, an increase of almost 5% compared with the previous year’s figure of 459,000teu. Despite some impressive increases in container traffic, overall cargo throughput at India’s ports increased by only 1% to 514.6 million tonnes in the period.
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Here it is. 1.4 million TEU's is not for 2010 but between April 2010 and Feb 2011 Chennai has handled 1.4 million TEU's in 11 months!! The next biggest is Kolkata which has not even hit 0.5 million. Unless something like Mundra enters, we are not going to see the third Indian port in that list for quite sometime.
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what about that vallarpadam one that was inaugrated recently Tshyam?
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According to Wiki, the port of Cochin (which includes Vallarpadam) handled 290000 TEU's. It is mentioned it is largest single operator container terminal. I dont know how!! Maybe it is a typical wikipedia goof up where someone adds whatever they want.

I dont think Cochin wont be a top 100 port anytime soon. I am not a shipping or logistics expert but if you ask me Mudra has the best chance of breaking into top 100 next. Maybe followed by Kolkata - Haldia complex and Tuticurin before Cochin makes into that list. The problem with Cochin is that it doesnt have hinterland cargo.
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