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Old October 22nd, 2011, 06:06 PM   #2121
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 06:23 PM   #2122
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Is that 2Pac in your avatar? One of his trademarks was to reverse the bandana so the knots would be on the forehead... just like in your avatar
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 07:39 PM   #2123
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To answer the question about the gap between One57 and the next building..That small gap is there because, believe it or not, buildings move..If there's strong wind, building sway, possible earthquake, building moves, etc..Those are not moves like one ft..At least not at street level..But there are smaller moves..One57 is way taller than those buildings next door, so it has bigger moves..If they build it wall to wall, as time passes by, walls of One57 would hit other walls and they would crack..At first those cracks would be small but it would be bigger and bigger with time..And you know what that means..That's why is there small gap..

Usually those gaps get filled with some termo/sound proof material..Or it can just stay empty..And cladding that comes on the front side of building covers it so it's not visible..
I wonder, what can be the weight of a supertall like One 57? I can imagine it has to be big to be able to crack neighbouring walls if it would have contact with them
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 08:12 PM   #2124
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Is that 2Pac in your avatar? One of his trademarks was to reverse the bandana so the knots would be on the forehead... just like in your avatar
Yeah it's Tupac lol.

Kanto think more about how fast the buildings can move. That compound with the weight, would be enough to damage any neighboring building.
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 08:17 PM   #2125
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That's true. I guess it would be like a lorry hitting the buildings over and over again. How much force is needed to start cracks in a wall?
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 08:22 PM   #2126
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Lol, planning something?
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 08:24 PM   #2127
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ROFLMAO, no, just wondering how strong a building is
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 09:37 PM   #2128
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I see. Well, there are a lot of people here that provide some very interesting information, though knowing how strong a building is, is a question that barely anyone knows for certain. Except the engineers and architect(s) of the building of course. Therefore a little strange to ask it over here because the engineers and architects of this building are no member of this website (as far as we know). Otherwise we probably would've known.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 12:37 AM   #2129
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Well, this is the biggest international skyscraper forum in existence so it is very well possible that some skyscraper engineers will sooner or later join

Btw, I'd love to see a recent pic of this building from far away so we can see the recent progress
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 01:52 AM   #2130
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^They're aware of these forums, though they just limit to observe and be sure nothing confidential is posted.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 06:37 PM   #2131
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That's true. I guess it would be like a lorry hitting the buildings over and over again. How much force is needed to start cracks in a wall?
It's not necessarily the force of the hits that will crack a wall. I think it's more the times it will hit other buildings. Compare it to a water drop. There are examples of places where one drip hits the ground every 2 seconds, and after years it will make a hole in the most solid ground. In this case it's sort of the same, so it's not like that the building hits other buildings with high speed or force, but just the number of times it swayes.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 08:24 PM   #2132
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^And isn't that why this building is made out of concrete? To reduce sway? Because concrete is much stronger and doesn't sway as much as steel/other materials. Is this correct?
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Old October 24th, 2011, 12:09 AM   #2133
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It's not necessarily the force of the hits that will crack a wall. I think it's more the times it will hit other buildings. Compare it to a water drop. There are examples of places where one drip hits the ground every 2 seconds, and after years it will make a hole in the most solid ground. In this case it's sort of the same, so it's not like that the building hits other buildings with high speed or force, but just the number of times it swayes.
Yeah but from what I know there has to be quite some force involved for the material to weaken and crack after many times repeated collison
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Old October 24th, 2011, 01:53 AM   #2134
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The force will be released, just not as a wall hits wall..It's more like tectonic plates..One57 is big, it sways and his walls would slide an inch or two or how much I don't know exactly, and make pressure on neighbour's wall..That pressure would repeat every few seconds..In intervals..And neighbour's walls would feel that..There would be small vibrations..And those vibrations would make little cracks which would become bigger and bigger with time..

Everyone who knows a basic physics will know what I mean..
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^And isn't that why this building is made out of concrete? To reduce sway? Because concrete is much stronger and doesn't sway as much as steel/other materials. Is this correct?
Kinda..But you have to let building to sway to some point..That's the way how building takes force of the wind, earthquake, etc..If you build it too strong, wind or earthquake would brake it just like that..
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Old October 24th, 2011, 03:38 AM   #2136
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Anyone noticed that this building is already completed on Google Earth? Assuming the scale and cladding are accurate, it'll be a great contribution to midtown.
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Old October 24th, 2011, 06:42 AM   #2137
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Hmm they started cladding already.... Everything is moving fast it seems.
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Old October 24th, 2011, 11:44 AM   #2138
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Wow!

I want to buy a flat there!
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Old October 24th, 2011, 09:01 PM   #2139
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I want to buy a flat there!
I've heard they are extremely expensive
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