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Old February 25th, 2012, 04:29 AM   #3001
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I'm sorry if this has been answered before, but what's with the next half of the cladding being different colors?
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Old February 25th, 2012, 05:14 AM   #3002
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It's the protective covering, when it's removed it will all be the same as the cladding on the right of those pictures.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 09:36 AM   #3003
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One of the best supertalls going up in the world today!
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Old February 25th, 2012, 12:36 PM   #3004
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Yup, I've seen enough..Definitely the best cladding I've ever seen..
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Old February 25th, 2012, 04:11 PM   #3005
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Nice to see the progress! I cant wait to see the final form!
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Old February 26th, 2012, 12:55 AM   #3006
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This is why I wish the blue and white where the actual cladding colors, not the charcol and silver. Notice how the blue and white curved pannels really "pop", that is you can really see them, they stand out.

Yet the ones with the silver and charcol are barely visible. Many people looking at the building casually won't even notice them.

Just my opinion.

I am going to check this thing out from Central Park tomorrow now that it has blown by the hotel on Central Park South.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 02:01 AM   #3007
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One of the best supertalls going up in the world today!
Not for me. It's nice but Beekman number one for me.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #3008
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Not for me. It's nice but Beekman number one for me.
Beekman is not a supertall
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Old February 26th, 2012, 03:45 AM   #3009
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Beekman is not a supertall
I was about to say that haha. But it's about 150 feet off, so let's just count it
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Old February 26th, 2012, 04:32 AM   #3010
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Not for me. It's nice but Beekman number one for me.
a) Not a supertall

b) Not going "up today"
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Old February 26th, 2012, 07:04 AM   #3011
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I was about to say that haha. But it's about 150 feet off, so let's just count it
The tallest building in town here is 150ft, 14 floors
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Old February 26th, 2012, 07:34 AM   #3012
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This is why I wish the blue and white where the actual cladding colors, not the charcol and silver. Notice how the blue and white curved pannels really "pop", that is you can really see them, they stand out.

Yet the ones with the silver and charcol are barely visible. Many people looking at the building casually won't even notice them.

Just my opinion.

I am going to check this thing out from Central Park tomorrow now that it has blown by the hotel on Central Park South.
While I agree the protected panels stand out way better at street level than the unprotected ones, covering the entire building's face with this would make the tower look crappy, something like the model. Glass buildings are interesting to play with just need to play with the sun, weather condition and more importantly the angle. One57 will reflect the sky quite nice.



Here's a comparison rendering, still some adjustments to add to One57's glass, such as increasing reflectiveness..

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Old February 26th, 2012, 08:13 AM   #3013
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Yeah that's not the person I quoted. I don't know how that got on there. I quoted aquablue.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 08:17 AM   #3014
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a) Not a supertall

b) Not going "up today"
I don't care if it went up 100 years ago, it's still better. And never said it was a supertall.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #3015
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Is it just me, or did someone else hate this building as the design was reveiled and loves it now?

Also, since this one will be such an epic masterpiece, i cant wait for its neighbors design to be released. O.O And the potential height of 360m+ is just making me drool.

NYC is finally changing its skyline dramatically as it did in the early 20th century and the 60's - 80's. :-)

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Old February 26th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #3016
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Is it just me, or did someone else hate this building as the design was reveiled and loves it now?

Also, since this one will be such an epic masterpiece, i cant wait for its neighbors design to be released. O.O And the potential height of 360m+ is just making me drool.

NYC is finally changing its skyline dramatically as it did in the early 20th century and the 60's - 80's. :-)

Cheers Danny
I think the early 2000s saw a huge wave of skyline change as well. That's when midtown gained its girth! But it is nice seeing all the new supertalls and skyscrapers in general in contrast to the rest of the nation at the moment.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 08:28 PM   #3017
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I spent some time this morning walking around this building to see it from different angles and take some pictures on my cell phone. I am coming to the unsettling conclusion that although this building is great to have (who wouldn't want a 1,000 footer?) it really brings next to nothing to the NYC skyline and is just filler before some hopefully better towers get built around it.

From Central Park:

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Ok, you can clearly see it. Problem is, it still adds nothing to the skyline. It is simply blocking older skyscrapers. Built where it is it will only add about 150 feet to the skyline. Had it been built a bit to the east or west it could have added 500 feet to the skyline. Oh well.

Again, we see nothing gained other than blocking CitySpire and Carnegie Tower:

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The good news is construction is super fast. By the end of April it should have surpassed all its neighboors.

Ok, when a couple of weeks ago I took pictures of the super reflective cladding on the 58th street side some said they liked it as it would reflect the nice brick buildings around it and make it fit in better and look nice.

Ok, this is what is directly across the street. Does anything think it is such a nice building that we should want to see a reflection of it on the south side of 58th street?

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And sure enough here is the reflection we see:

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Total crap. Yuck. And when we saw this extreme reflection before some explained it away saying that it was a cloudy day and that on a sunny day it would look much better.

But here we see that isn't true. It is a bright sunny day and all we see is the ugly building on the north side of 58th street and the south side of 58th street.

In my opinion the designers of One57 chose poorly.

Then I went to the 57th street side:

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Note they are working on a Sunday and jumping the crane!!!!!!! No wonder this is going up so fast.

Note the new crane section sliding in the boom:

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Ok, now we see again the mistake the designers made on the 57th street side of the building. The black and silver cladding is barely noticible and quite ugly. Worse still, we see the blue and white covered cladding which looks great by comparison and simply serves to show what they COULD have done.

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This picture shows One57 on the left and the old 70s style black glass building on the right. Yeah, they made it match. But why match to something that is ugly and plain? Also, not how you can barely see the curved glass at all. That curved glass is a very nice feature but with the colors they chose it is practically hidden unless you stand there and stare at it. Casual passersby don't notice it at all. Excellent design undone by poor design in my opinion.

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Again, in the final picture note where you can see the curved glass and where you can't. In other words, when it is done you will barely notice any of the curved glass. Then what is the point of having it?
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Old February 26th, 2012, 08:28 PM   #3018
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Hey folks, I updated my diagram with the latest progress of 157

Roof height used below!

[IMG]http://i42.************/usdhg.jpg[/IMG]

1WTC = 371 meters or 1216 feet out of 418 meters or 1371 feet
4WTC = Approximately 244 meters or 801 feet out of 298 meters or 977 feet
157 = 203 meters or 667 feet out of 306 meters or 1005 feet

(Note: I used the 418 meter figure for 1WTC when measured from the lowest above ground entrance and I used the 298 meter figure for 4WTC.)
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Old February 26th, 2012, 09:09 PM   #3019
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600, you're entitled to your opinion but I think you're in the minority here. This building is 250 feet taller than Carnegie Hall Tower for starters so I don't know how this is filler really, but I think the blue and white cladding would be unbearably tacky, the grey and black looks sleek.

Hopefully in the next year we will start to see 225 W 57th St start to rise a block to the west, and that will fill a much bigger gap in the Central Park skyline looking south.

Anyway thanks for the massive update, this building is a beauty.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 09:20 PM   #3020
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600, you're entitled to your opinion but I think you're in the minority here.
I think you are right. I'm just giving my personal opinion.


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This building is 250 feet taller than Carnegie Hall Tower for starters so I don't know how this is filler really,
I think it is only 150 or so feet taller than City Spire and given that it is directly north of it doesn't add as much as it could if it were to either side. Of course, that is no ones fault. They built where they had a lot. It is simply an observation.


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but I think the blue and white cladding would be unbearably tacky, the grey and black looks sleek.
It is possible you are right, but we'll never know for sure. Personally I wish they would have put what is going on the west side of the building on the north and/or south sides. Off color cladding can look quite nice. For example, I think the hotel on the north east corner of 42nd and 8th looks great. Sure it looks like something Latin or from Miami but I think it is a nice addition. I thought that was what they were going to do here.



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Hopefully in the next year we will start to see 225 W 57th St start to rise a block to the west, and that will fill a much bigger gap in the Central Park skyline looking south.
Absolutely agree. Can't wait for that one to being. I want that F*#&ing supermarket gone already

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Anyway thanks for the massive update, this building is a beauty.
You are totally welcome. My nitpicking notwithstanding I am still super glad this tower is going up and it is great fun stoping by to check out its progress.
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