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Old September 16th, 2013, 05:16 AM   #6081
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A 500m building is required to lift NY towards the sky and provide a focal point for midtown. Ny is looking rather short compared to the rising cities in china and Asia.
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Old September 16th, 2013, 10:56 AM   #6082
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A 500m building is required to lift NY towards the sky and provide a focal point for midtown. Ny is looking rather short compared to the rising cities in china and Asia.
I don't think NY should be like chinese and asians cities, specially when talking about building designs...
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Old September 16th, 2013, 04:56 PM   #6083
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Old September 17th, 2013, 02:21 AM   #6084
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I don't think NY should be like chinese and asians cities, specially when talking about building designs...
Why not? I'd take Shanghai Tower or Greenland Center over WTC1, etc in terms of design (not just height). What is your reasoning why NYC should not have these more adventurous and impressive designs?
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Old September 17th, 2013, 02:29 AM   #6085
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It's not in the character of NYC.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 02:47 AM   #6086
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And because more often than not, "adventurous" designs don't age well.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #6087
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Why not? I'd take Shanghai Tower or Greenland Center over WTC1, etc in terms of design (not just height). What is your reasoning why NYC should not have these more adventurous and impressive designs?
Ok, and you have to express this on a construction thread why?
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Old September 18th, 2013, 03:19 AM   #6088
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I hope that the Park Lane, in fact, is razed. I don't see how Witkoff can't. It detracts from this group of stunning towers.


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Old September 18th, 2013, 03:22 AM   #6089
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Look at that density in those last shots. Amazing.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 06:54 AM   #6090
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Old September 18th, 2013, 01:55 PM   #6091
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Old September 18th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #6092
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two_billionaire_fashion_moguls_revealed_as_one57_buyers.jpegIt was only a matter of time before the archicritical hammer fell on 57th Street, where many architecturally…interesting buildings are currently stretching toward the skyline. Today, New York's Justin Davidson offers his thoughts on One57, and, as is our habit, we've highlighted the best zingers. Other nearby towers—like Rafael Vinoly's 432 Park Avenue—come in for criticism, too—Davidson calls 432 Park "a genuine clunker" and "an unrelenting concrete grid of ten-by-ten-foot openings like so many stacked cubbyhole units." Davidson wonders, "shouldn't architects who reach for physical heights be extending themselves creatively, too?" We'd say yes, but it might mean we'd miss out on all the best architecture critic commentary. Like these One57 bon mots:

1) "Along 57th Street, lanky residential skyscrapers will soon be lining up for Central Park views like an NBA team craning to peer at a new iPhone."

2) "It's a luxury object for people who see the city as their private snow globe."

3) "But a building doesn't liquefy just because computer renderings promise that it will. In the physical world—the one where Hurricane Sandy crippled a crane that dangled perilously for months—One57 looks like a stolid arrangement of beveled blocks, upholstered in silk and satin stripes."

4) "For one thing, 57th Street is not actually getting much denser. Instead, the skyline is filling up with sparsely populated habitats for oligarchs who, if they live there at all, roam across their parquet tundra, hollering for their mates."

5) "It's hard to imagine how high the ceilings would have to be, how unusably glossy the kitchen, or how noiseless the air conditioning to make an apartment here feel like a good deal. At these financial altitudes, even an ordinary structural element feels like a ripoff."
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Old September 18th, 2013, 03:34 PM   #6093
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Justin davidson on one 57 critic " "But a building doesn't liquefy just because computer renderings promise that it will. In the physical world—the one where Hurricane Sandy crippled a crane that dangled perilously for months—One57 looks like a stolid arrangement of beveled blocks, upholstered in silk and satin stripes."
Is there someone here that has seen On 57 in the real? i am interest to know their opinions.thanks
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Old September 18th, 2013, 05:27 PM   #6094
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"It's a luxury object for people who see the city as their private snow globe."
At least he had something nice to say about NY.

Justin Davidson is a Harvard Grad and also a classical music critic.

That's a dead giveaway about his tastes in architecture. Nuff said.
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Old September 18th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #6095
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To quote a friend of mine:
"Architecture critics- how nature disposes of useless individuals"
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Old September 19th, 2013, 12:07 AM   #6096
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Can't wait till the cladding is finished!
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Old September 19th, 2013, 12:18 AM   #6097
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4) "For one thing, 57th Street is not actually getting much denser. Instead, the skyline is filling up with sparsely populated habitats for oligarchs who, if they live there at all, roam across their parquet tundra, hollering for their mates."
I quite agree with this statement. While it's exciting to see these and the other 57th St supertalls go up, it's disappointing that they won't be well occupied. I remember looking at 15 CPW at night on my last NYC trip and it only had a few token lights on. Meanwhile buildings next door were fully lit up.

I'm happy investors are sending their money stateside and creating construction jobs. But it'd be a lot more satisfying when you walk past these buildings and know that the billionaires who bought into them are actually inside them.

At least this one has a big hotel in the lower half that will see a lot of traffic.
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Old September 19th, 2013, 12:40 AM   #6098
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Agreed, however....

If you can afford to purchase in those towers then you have the means to have multiple homes spread around across the globe. You cannot expect them to live all year around in these apartments.

It is no different from my neighborhood in the UES. At times especially depending on the season my neighborhood can be ghost town like. It’s just the way it is. Their lifestyle is very mobile.

Even if a large % of buyers are local, you can expect these units not to be lived in well enough. If you have the means like these people do they can have a suburban home in Westchester where they raise their children, a home base in Manhattan, a vacation home in the Hamptons and a place to call home in one of their favorite cities abroad of their choice.

Although, there will be a % of these units purchased by foreigners that will probably never set foot in them and use it as a means to park their cash, but I had seen many of examples of this all around the city that are not even in high profile residential buildings like these. It's New York.

15 CPW is a fantastic building.. I would seriously move there even over the new darlings along 57th street.

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Old September 19th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #6099
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Old September 19th, 2013, 07:19 AM   #6100
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15 CPW is a fantastic building.. I would seriously move there even over the new darlings along 57th street.
Same here. I walked around that building several times taking tons of pictures. It's gorgeous.
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