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Old January 22nd, 2014, 07:45 PM   #6641
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Yes I do, and it's still too far forward, aesthetically.
I agree, especially that it hides Carnegie Hall tower and Cityspire from the park.
Generally speaking, it is always better when the tallest towers are more centered in the skyline, it helps to give a soaring effect.

But if you are a developer and if you want to sell apartments, the location is perfect. The closer you are to the park, the less chance views will be blocked.
That's why it is where it is. Too bad for us.
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Old January 22nd, 2014, 11:02 PM   #6642
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I still don't understand why they chose to use those dark panels at the top. The worst part of it is that, unlike the rest of the cladding, those dark panels are not reflective.
I am still praying they are covered with some kind of protective films about to be removed.
they didnt show up in any of the renderings. i wonder what happened
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 12:06 AM   #6643
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they didnt show up in any of the renderings. i wonder what happened
That is exactly what I thought when I saw them the first time. And now, I am afraid it might be permanent. At least, they should be reflective, It might help them to blend with the rest of the cladding.
If it stays like this, it would be a huge mistake.
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 01:34 AM   #6644
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Don't worry. The only reason it looks like this now is because of the elevator making the tower look like it is under construction and/or has antennas attached to it. It makes the tower look unrefined. However, I think when the elevator comes down this year, it will look at least slightly less unclean.

But come on. It's just a few glass pieces; it doesn't look that bad. I think they did this on purpose to compliment the crown because if I'm not mistaken, these dark panels are on both sides in about the same place.

And it's not like the renderings are infalliable. Even official renderings aren't based on blueprints and real architects' intentions. Sometimes the renderings we make ourselves are more accurate then the renderings made by professionals. Look at the renders of One World Trade Center, or the Bank of America Tower.

Rendering of Bank of America Tower:



Real completed Tower:



In the rendering, the spire looks like it's suspended in midair. In the real picture, it does not. This is because the glass in the rendering and completed tower differ. This is the same thing with One57. In the rendering, the tower's glass has a serious discoloration.

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[img]http://t0.************/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFPKUveEPwfcPxxF-9dIvv9ySZfwgzxp7PlXLYwLYGhGPWHx2cfA[/img]

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Old January 23rd, 2014, 09:38 AM   #6645
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This question might have already been asked, but when the cladding was being installed, were the workers basically randomly putting glass on as they received it, or is there a certain pattern going on that I just can't see? Obviously, it's all dark cladding on the south side and all light on the north, but what about in between?
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 09:48 AM   #6646
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It looks cool anyway.
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 11:21 AM   #6647
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Old January 23rd, 2014, 11:41 AM   #6648
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But come on. It's just a few glass pieces; it doesn't look that bad. I think they did this on purpose to compliment the crown because if I'm not mistaken, these dark panels are on both sides in about the same place.
Yes, you are right, they are on both sides.

I know it's not the end of the world , but the tower is so great, it's a bit sad they didn't use, at least, reflective dark glass instead of those matte panels. It looks a bit cheap as it is.
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Old January 24th, 2014, 02:44 AM   #6649
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This question might have already been asked, but when the cladding was being installed, were the workers basically randomly putting glass on as they received it, or is there a certain pattern going on that I just can't see? Obviously, it's all dark cladding on the south side and all light on the north, but what about in between?
I believe the cladding pattern repeats every 5 or so floors
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Old January 25th, 2014, 05:49 AM   #6650
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Since this is known as the Billionaire Tower, I'll post this article here.

New York's First $100 Million Apartment is Coming Soon
http://www.departures.com/articles/n...is-coming-soon

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In a city consumed by luxury condominiums, no price is too high to pay. Michael Gross reports on the race to a nine-figure sale.

Forget the gated motor court, the private courtyard or the waterfall in the lobby and check out the dizzying view from atop 50 United Nations Plaza. Manhattan’s Rocky Mountains—the skyscraper tops of the Empire State, the Chrysler, Rockefeller Center and MetLife—all seem close enough to touch. You can see the network of bridges connecting the city to the rest of the world; the East and Hudson rivers; the Statue of Liberty; the new One World Trade Center. In the distance, airplanes take off from Kennedy and LaGuardia. And straight down below sit Louis Kahn’s Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms Park and the UN itself......... (Read article in link)
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Old January 26th, 2014, 10:51 PM   #6651
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This question might have already been asked, but when the cladding was being installed, were the workers basically randomly putting glass on as they received it, or is there a certain pattern going on that I just can't see? Obviously, it's all dark cladding on the south side and all light on the north, but what about in between?
By the looks of it, I think there is a certain pattern. The renderings resemble the real thing a little bit, even though they aren't completely accurate.

Rendering:

[img]https://encrypted-tbn1.************/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzrnwnVVMwsvyIhEyC1W0BrUGClkKZ71zScZTK-PFsxLKN9B0D[/img]

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And even though it doesn't show up in the renderings, the dark blob everyone hates shows up on both sides of the tower, and even though they're not in exactly the right places, I think it's too close of a resemblance to be a coincidence. The whole design on the east and west sides looks a little like lattice.

And there's the possibility that even though there isn't an exact pattern laid out, there is a general pattern that was meant to be. Because I think the construction of the glass would be really slow if the construction workers had to place every single glass piece in the same exact place. And then again, as xing lin said, the cladding pattern could repeat every five floors, creating the lattice look.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 03:18 AM   #6652
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Went by the 58th street side of this tower today. The atrium on that side looks very interesting:

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Note the stone walls inside.

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They don't even have all the cladding complete:

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Extrell is really dragging their feet. All the hotels at 1715 Broadway that started way after this are done and open and hosting Superbowl parties. It is painful how long it is taking them to complete this.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 03:45 AM   #6653
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The fitout of this would take considerably longer than those other buildings because of the quality of this development!
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Old January 27th, 2014, 10:01 AM   #6654
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Old January 27th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #6655
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Lovely pictures!!!!

Amazing tower!
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Old January 27th, 2014, 10:06 PM   #6656
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i just remembered how this tower was supposed to be completed months ago..
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Old January 28th, 2014, 12:14 PM   #6657
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i just remembered how this tower was supposed to be completed months ago..
Its amazing what a little thing called Superstorm Sandy can do to schedules.
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Old January 28th, 2014, 02:58 PM   #6658
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Absolutely stunning building.
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Old January 29th, 2014, 08:37 PM   #6659
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Awesome shots! Seeing that I am new here, I can't post what I took over the weekend in the snow - both pics and video.

The way this building stands above all its peers seems to make it look much bigger than it actually is. In fact, due to the context of the neighborhood where there are much shorter buildings, you'd swear this tower was taller than One World Trade which looks kinda normal mixed into the downtown height.

It's a real icon in midtown due to the context.
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Old January 29th, 2014, 11:13 PM   #6660
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welcome.

you can post the pics by uploading them to a host like imageshack or so and copy paste the links here.
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