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Old October 11th, 2010, 12:27 PM   #661
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DOB Filings says the tower is concrete..


Concrete Mix Design: Columns and Walls thru the 26th Floor

Concrete Mix Design: Slabs and Beams thru the 26th Floor

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Old October 11th, 2010, 07:14 PM   #662
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i thought that all residential towers were concrete because of fire codes. could be wrong but i don't think it's just a new york thing. i think this is worldwide industry practice. i could be wrong. obviously there are many building out there that are concrete and not residential....i believe this is for rigidity....anyways there is a certain height that a residential building must be in order for it to have to be made out of concrete.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 07:21 PM   #663
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i thought that all residential towers were concrete because of fire codes. could be wrong but i don't think it's just a new york thing. i think this is worldwide industry practice. i could be wrong. obviously there are many building out there that are concrete and not residential....i believe this is for rigidity....anyways there is a certain height that a residential building must be in order for it to have to be made out of concrete.
There's a lot of exempels all around the world..Some towers are concrete because of static reasons, some are because of aesthetic reasons, some are because of safety reasons...I think it depends of project..
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Old October 11th, 2010, 10:06 PM   #664
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In Rotterdam we have a few examples of steel constructions in residential towers, like the montevideo tower.
Could steel be more expensive than concrete?
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Old October 11th, 2010, 10:55 PM   #665
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In Rotterdam we have a few examples of steel constructions in residential towers, like the montevideo tower.
Could steel be more expensive than concrete?
I was thinkin' about that too..

Concrete has major advantages..It is economical, fire-proof, has lower floor-to-floor heights, higher damping values and higher stiffness.

The advantages of concrete such as lower cost, faster speed of construction, ease of finishing, fire-proof characteristics and structural stiffness are well known. Moreover, concrete technology is very advanced. Because of the height of the buildings and the desirability of limiting the column sizes, concrete strengths have also increased.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #666
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In Rotterdam we have a few examples of steel constructions in residential towers, like the montevideo tower.
Could steel be more expensive than concrete?
Steel is more expensive than concrete and is better suited to commercial buildings because it can take greater loads on floors crammed with people and equipment. The big advantage to steel is that it's much faster to frame than concrete so while labor costs are high, labor hours are far less.

Concrete is more economical and residential floors usually handle smaller loads and allow lower ceiling heights and narrower bays which plays into concrete's compression advantages. Even with the longer build times, concrete is still cheaper. Several tall residential builds in the US have been steel and it's interesting how much lighter and smaller those steel beams are. Superplasticizers enable concrete to go higher than ever before and handle greater loads but again, that has mostly been utilized for residential skyscrapers.
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Old October 12th, 2010, 02:56 AM   #667
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When exactly do we expect this to rise?
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Old October 12th, 2010, 12:41 PM   #668
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When exactly do we expect this to rise?
Right now..Wait for the next update..
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Old October 13th, 2010, 03:27 AM   #669
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Concrete is preferable between residential units for sound damping purposes. Offices have lots of background white noise and no neighbors playing loud music at 3am. Hearing your neighbor all the time isn't acceptable in expensive condos.

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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #670
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It's above ground!

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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:33 PM   #671
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jesssss, i love it!
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Old October 14th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #672
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Damn..We seriously need some pics fom above...We don't know nothing about this construction...
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Old October 15th, 2010, 05:15 AM   #673
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Old October 15th, 2010, 05:31 AM   #674
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They are going very fast now! O.o Gooood!
They went from street level very fast.

In three weeks, this place has changed a lot;

September 29:


Oct. 14:


Impressive

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Old October 15th, 2010, 07:31 AM   #675
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wow, nice pics
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Old October 15th, 2010, 09:35 AM   #676
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finally, it's speeding up! if only they would install a construction camera like the one at the WTC (RGZ cam), so we can watch the progress constantly. i guess not many new yorkers pass by 157 west 57th street, i mean it's not as prominent as the WTC site, where you have a major transit hub (and also many tourists taking pics).
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Old October 15th, 2010, 07:46 PM   #677
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thats the price you pay, to be across the street from central park. This tower isn't mix use right?
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Old October 15th, 2010, 09:10 PM   #678
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thats the price you pay, to be across the street from central park. This tower isn't mix use right?
It will be hotel/condos.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #679
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I'm going to be in New York Saturday so hopefully ill get a picture of it
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Old October 16th, 2010, 03:19 AM   #680
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I'm going to be in New York Saturday so hopefully ill get a picture of it
If you would be able to take pic from up, you would be our hero..

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