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Old December 19th, 2010, 11:33 PM   #801
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December 18th, nycdagreatest, Skyscrperpage..

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Old December 19th, 2010, 11:44 PM   #802
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finally some updates! it has slowed down a bit, but still good progress.
btw do we have any new informations if there's a core or not? because there was a discussion here some time ago...
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Old December 19th, 2010, 11:53 PM   #803
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finally some updates! it has slowed down a bit, but still good progress.
btw do we have any new informations if there's a core or not? because there was a discussion here some time ago...
Well, I'm not sure, but looks like there won't be any core...I think we would see it by now..But I could be wrong since we don't actually know much about this project..
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Old December 20th, 2010, 02:37 PM   #804
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hm, very strange. a supertall without a core thanks anyways
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Old December 20th, 2010, 02:50 PM   #805
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hm, very strange. a supertall without a core thanks anyways
Yeah..Looks like it's planned to have walls positioned that way so it doesn't need the core..It's new york bedrock down, it has pretty much stable shaped and it's all concrete..
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Old December 20th, 2010, 02:54 PM   #806
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hm, very strange. a supertall without a core thanks anyways
It's not uncommon for steel framed buildings not to have a core.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 12:12 AM   #807
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How many non steel frame supertalls are there without a core?

And judging from the 1st picture I can imagine why it's not going too fast right now. Every floor looks different, it even looks like there are different floor heights. This is clearly not the easiest way to construct a supertall.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 12:14 AM   #808
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nice to see how those construction go right in the city centre..
makes the work only harder and harder to do...

interesting for sure
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Old December 21st, 2010, 12:39 AM   #809
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It looks like a small lot for such a tall building.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 04:45 AM   #810
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and some of those concrete columns look very thin for a 75 storey building....are we sure the proposal is not actually for a 7.5 storey one.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 03:13 PM   #811
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Structures must be way stronger now than in the past, both the concrete and the steel. I agree the columns look thin, but in person I am sure they are substantial. Look at the spacing on 4WTC between the columns, it will blow your mind.

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Old December 21st, 2010, 04:14 PM   #812
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Structures must be way stronger now than in the past, both the concrete and the steel. I agree the columns look thin, but in person I am sure they are substantial. Look at the spacing on 4WTC between the columns, it will blow your mind.

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True, but 4WTC has seriously strong core and steel beams in the concrete...Carnegie has only concrete coulmns with steel bars..No core, no steel beams..And it's taller than 4WTC..
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Old December 21st, 2010, 08:12 PM   #813
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True, but 4WTC has seriously strong core and steel beams in the concrete...Carnegie has only concrete coulmns with steel bars..No core, no steel beams..And it's taller than 4WTC..
Easy answer: 4 wtc is engineered to withstand certain kinds of terroristic attacks, given the sensibility of the construction site. Carnegie 57 no.
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I finally made it today
As of today they are building the 5th floor.








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Old December 22nd, 2010, 05:03 AM   #815
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Looks alot like the 3rd floor but whatever you say
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 05:12 AM   #816
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Looks alot like the 3rd floor but whatever you say
I think he meant to say fourth floor, which, in fact, they are building. (They passed the third floor and are framing the fourth.)

Also, the lobby appears to be two-story, so if you count it as two floors, they are building the fifth as Flint stated.

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I am getting the same confusion as you guys, but I clearly saw something like a half-floor behind the fence. Besides the floors are approximately 20 ft high each, so it is well over the 5th floor in normal measurements. It looks like this lobby is going to be huge
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 01:46 PM   #818
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The lobby and those 2 floors we see, are bigger than other floors..Next floor will be smaller..And every after..We'll see 3 those smaller floors (to the height of the building on the left side) and then it goes first curve inward..
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 03:39 PM   #819
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Thanks, that explains a lot. I've been wondering about the floors looking like something from Gulliver's Travels, I didn't think of a lobby, even though it should have been an obvious conclusion.
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That will be a magnificent lobby. It looks like the ceiling will be around 90 cm/ 30 feet high.
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