NEW YORK | One57 | 306m | 1004ft | 79 fl | T/O - Page 43

boss-ton · January 6th, 2011, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn_man12345

The building looks great and I cant wait to see it rise. But Im extremely curious: how can they build such a tall building without a core?

I know someone said that steel and framing and everything is very strong, but how strong could it be?

Possibly they will use interior columns like olden day high rises?? Im pretty sure buildings like the empire state just have elevator shafts because it uses many interior columns and the central core idea came with the twin towers to get rid of interior columns. It may also be strong enough without interior columns because of the L shape it is which is an extremely inherently stable design, along with the advancements in reinforced concrete. Idk the exact answer but I bet theres still columns around the elevator shafts because theres no way the floor goes from one side to the other so that will still sort of be a core.

***desertpunk*** · January 6th, 2011, 02:51 AM

What's the story on Carnegie57's height? I keep seeing "953 ft." DOB change?

***Vito Corleone*** · January 6th, 2011, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertpunk

What's the story on Carnegie57's height? I keep seeing "953 ft." DOB change?

306.35 m. according to the blueprints I viewed last May.

***desertpunk*** · January 6th, 2011, 08:45 AM

I'm thinking about this thread that's still active:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=996503

And that same height came up in a recent article:

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/0...n_broadway.php

Old information?

scalziand · January 6th, 2011, 10:24 AM

DOB heights only include occupied floors. The height of the crown is not included in the DOB height.

DinoVabec · January 6th, 2011, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Corleone

306.35 m. according to the blueprints I viewed last May.

We need you man..Can you tell us everything you saw?

***Vito Corleone*** · January 6th, 2011, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinoVabec

We need you man..Can you tell us everything you saw?

Unfortunately, I was only able to get a quick peek at the drawings. When I visited the construction site, all the workers were having a meeting at the bottom of the pit. I snuck into the trailer and started paging through the drawings. Meanwhile my buddy who I told to stay out on the sidewalk, started taking photos. One of the workers noticed him and yelled...I didn't know what the hell was going on, so I bolted. When on a stealth height hunt, experience has told me to first look at the elevation of the base and then the top of the building before anything else. Sometimes you only get a few seconds.

DinoVabec · January 6th, 2011, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Corleone

Unfortunately, I was only able to get a quick peek at the drawings. When I visited the construction site, all the workers were having a meeting at the bottom of the pit. I snuck into the trailer and started paging through the drawings. Meanwhile my buddy who I told to stay out on the sidewalk, started taking photos. One of the workers noticed him and yelled...I didn't know what the hell was going on, so I bolted. When on a stealth height hunt, experience has told me to first look at the elevation of the base and then the top of the building before anything else. Sometimes you only get a few seconds.

Damn..

But at least we know the height..Thanks man..

Marco Polo · January 7th, 2011, 02:27 PM

The way it will look from Central Park is especially impressive.
I like it.

spectre000 · January 10th, 2011, 09:15 PM

By RoldanTTLB,

image hosted on flickr

image hosted on flickr

zapor1 · January 11th, 2011, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn_man12345

The building looks great and I cant wait to see it rise. But Im extremely curious: how can they build such a tall building without a core?

I know someone said that steel and framing and everything is very strong, but how strong could it be?

the bedrock in this area of manhattan is pretty strong which allows for tall skyscrapers with just a steel framing.

dfiler · January 11th, 2011, 03:09 PM

Have there been many supertalls built this tightly between other buildings?

It is interesting how there is no access from the sides of the site and it doesn't seem that parking or traffic has been disturbed. Those are tight quarters for a construction site!

EddieB317 · January 12th, 2011, 12:31 AM

Welcome to NYC. Logistically hardest sites to build in the world.

DinoVabec · January 12th, 2011, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DinoVabec

The lobby and those 2 floors we see, are bigger than other floors..Next floor will be smaller..And every after..We'll see 3 those smaller floors (to the height of the building on the left side) and then it goes first curve inward..

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectre000

By RoldanTTLB,

image hosted on flickr

DinoVabec · January 17th, 2011, 12:17 AM

Why Your Next Place May Cost More

By VIVIAN S. TOY
January 14, 2011

Now, as the market plods along in a slow but steady recovery, brokers and developers are saying the city will soon face a shortage of new development projects.

Brokers, developers and market watchers say that barring any significant economic hiccups, real estate values in Manhattan will continue to grow at a measured rate through 2011. But starting in 2012, after most or all the new projects that were stalled or delayed have finally sold out, the supply of new apartments will take a decided dip, and prices for all apartments could start to rise significantly again. “Once we work through the existing inventory and there’s nothing new coming on line,” said Kelly Mack, the president of the Corcoran Sunshine Marketing Group, “there’s going to be a major shift in the market. Prices may start going up significantly in 2012, in anticipation of the shift in inventory.”

Gary Barnett, the president of Extell Development and one of the few developers who continued building through the downturn, said the lack of inventory was more pronounced now than in previous recessions. “In the early 1990s,” he said, “there was a big overhang of things that had been built in the late ’80s, but when things stopped this time, it just fell off a cliff.”

Last year, Extell started a hotel/condo project on West 57th Street near Carnegie Hall with 136 condo units, which Mr. Barnett said would come to market in 2013.

joshsam · January 17th, 2011, 01:26 PM

Wich only means good news and more condo towers going up next years right?

HK999 · January 17th, 2011, 01:33 PM

glad to hear that C57 is still rising. now if they only could keep the momentum going...

DinoVabec · January 17th, 2011, 01:46 PM

STR on Skyscraperpage..

boschb · January 18th, 2011, 12:57 AM

Str is the best! man that must have taken forever!

zapor1 · January 18th, 2011, 01:45 AM

thats gonna be one big shadow over central park O_O

January 6th, 2011, 02:51 AM	#842
*desertpunk* Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ELP ~ ABQ Posts: 29,629 Likes (Received): 1358	What's the story on Carnegie57's height? I keep seeing "953 ft." DOB change? __________________ We are floating in space...

January 6th, 2011, 08:45 AM	#844
*desertpunk* Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ELP ~ ABQ Posts: 29,629 Likes (Received): 1358	I'm thinking about this thread that's still active: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=996503 And that same height came up in a recent article: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/0...n_broadway.php Old information? __________________ We are floating in space...

January 10th, 2011, 09:15 PM	#850
spectre000 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Paul Posts: 5,012 Likes (Received): 129	By RoldanTTLB, image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr

January 12th, 2011, 12:31 AM	#853
EddieB317 DE MINIMIS NON CURAT LEX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 683 Likes (Received): 0	Welcome to NYC. Logistically hardest sites to build in the world. __________________ I happen to think that things are going to happen for Indianapolis...

January 17th, 2011, 12:17 AM	#855
DinoVabec Worldwide Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the clouds Posts: 5,783 Likes (Received): 94	Why Your Next Place May Cost More By VIVIAN S. TOY January 14, 2011 Now, as the market plods along in a slow but steady recovery, brokers and developers are saying the city will soon face a shortage of new development projects. Brokers, developers and market watchers say that barring any significant economic hiccups, real estate values in Manhattan will continue to grow at a measured rate through 2011. But starting in 2012, after most or all the new projects that were stalled or delayed have finally sold out, the supply of new apartments will take a decided dip, and prices for all apartments could start to rise significantly again. “Once we work through the existing inventory and there’s nothing new coming on line,” said Kelly Mack, the president of the Corcoran Sunshine Marketing Group, “there’s going to be a major shift in the market. Prices may start going up significantly in 2012, in anticipation of the shift in inventory.” Gary Barnett, the president of Extell Development and one of the few developers who continued building through the downturn, said the lack of inventory was more pronounced now than in previous recessions. “In the early 1990s,” he said, “there was a big overhang of things that had been built in the late ’80s, but when things stopped this time, it just fell off a cliff.” Last year, Extell started a hotel/condo project on West 57th Street near Carnegie Hall with 136 condo units, which Mr. Barnett said would come to market in 2013. __________________ Visit world of architecture on Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Pinterest New York - Miami - Chicago - Las Vegas - San Francisco - Los Angeles There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know. -Roger H. Lincoln

January 6th, 2011, 10:24 AM	#845
scalziand Naugatuckian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Naugatuck, CT Posts: 341 Likes (Received): 7	DOB heights only include occupied floors. The height of the crown is not included in the DOB height.

January 7th, 2011, 02:27 PM	#849
Marco Polo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,321 Likes (Received): 35	The way it will look from Central Park is especially impressive. I like it.

January 11th, 2011, 03:09 PM	#852
dfiler Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 200 Likes (Received): 17	Have there been many supertalls built this tightly between other buildings? It is interesting how there is no access from the sides of the site and it doesn't seem that parking or traffic has been disturbed. Those are tight quarters for a construction site!

January 17th, 2011, 01:26 PM	#856
joshsam Bokparty Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sint-Truiden Posts: 4,208 Likes (Received): 139	Wich only means good news and more condo towers going up next years right? __________________ *Be. Forum Meeting - Brussels* Morocco: Marrakech-Tensift-Al Haouz region- A small trip report Belgium's capital of fruit: Sint-Truiden

January 17th, 2011, 01:33 PM	#857
HK999 University of HK / 香港大學 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hong Kong SAR / 香港特區 Posts: 3,422 Likes (Received): 46	glad to hear that C57 is still rising. now if they only could keep the momentum going... __________________ Sapientia et Virtus 明德格物 Industrial Organization, MSc

January 17th, 2011, 01:46 PM	#858
DinoVabec Worldwide Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the clouds Posts: 5,783 Likes (Received): 94	STR on Skyscraperpage.. __________________ Visit world of architecture on Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Pinterest New York - Miami - Chicago - Las Vegas - San Francisco - Los Angeles There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know. -Roger H. Lincoln

January 18th, 2011, 12:57 AM	#859
boschb boschb Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Langley(Vancouver) BC Posts: 717 Likes (Received): 1	Str is the best! man that must have taken forever!

January 18th, 2011, 01:45 AM	#860
zapor1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 264 Likes (Received): 0	thats gonna be one big shadow over central park O_O

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