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Old January 6th, 2011, 03:36 AM   #841
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The building looks great and I cant wait to see it rise. But Im extremely curious: how can they build such a tall building without a core?

I know someone said that steel and framing and everything is very strong, but how strong could it be?
Possibly they will use interior columns like olden day high rises?? Im pretty sure buildings like the empire state just have elevator shafts because it uses many interior columns and the central core idea came with the twin towers to get rid of interior columns. It may also be strong enough without interior columns because of the L shape it is which is an extremely inherently stable design, along with the advancements in reinforced concrete. Idk the exact answer but I bet theres still columns around the elevator shafts because theres no way the floor goes from one side to the other so that will still sort of be a core.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 03:51 AM   #842
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What's the story on Carnegie57's height? I keep seeing "953 ft." DOB change?
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Old January 6th, 2011, 09:37 AM   #843
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What's the story on Carnegie57's height? I keep seeing "953 ft." DOB change?
306.35 m. according to the blueprints I viewed last May.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 09:45 AM   #844
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I'm thinking about this thread that's still active:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=996503

And that same height came up in a recent article:

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/0...n_broadway.php

Old information?
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Old January 6th, 2011, 11:24 AM   #845
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DOB heights only include occupied floors. The height of the crown is not included in the DOB height.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 01:14 PM   #846
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306.35 m. according to the blueprints I viewed last May.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 04:12 PM   #847
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Unfortunately, I was only able to get a quick peek at the drawings. When I visited the construction site, all the workers were having a meeting at the bottom of the pit. I snuck into the trailer and started paging through the drawings. Meanwhile my buddy who I told to stay out on the sidewalk, started taking photos. One of the workers noticed him and yelled...I didn't know what the hell was going on, so I bolted. When on a stealth height hunt, experience has told me to first look at the elevation of the base and then the top of the building before anything else. Sometimes you only get a few seconds.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 05:23 PM   #848
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Unfortunately, I was only able to get a quick peek at the drawings. When I visited the construction site, all the workers were having a meeting at the bottom of the pit. I snuck into the trailer and started paging through the drawings. Meanwhile my buddy who I told to stay out on the sidewalk, started taking photos. One of the workers noticed him and yelled...I didn't know what the hell was going on, so I bolted. When on a stealth height hunt, experience has told me to first look at the elevation of the base and then the top of the building before anything else. Sometimes you only get a few seconds.
Damn.. But at least we know the height..Thanks man..
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Old January 7th, 2011, 03:27 PM   #849
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The way it will look from Central Park is especially impressive.
I like it.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 10:15 PM   #850
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Old January 11th, 2011, 01:26 AM   #851
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The building looks great and I cant wait to see it rise. But Im extremely curious: how can they build such a tall building without a core?

I know someone said that steel and framing and everything is very strong, but how strong could it be?
the bedrock in this area of manhattan is pretty strong which allows for tall skyscrapers with just a steel framing.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #852
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Have there been many supertalls built this tightly between other buildings?

It is interesting how there is no access from the sides of the site and it doesn't seem that parking or traffic has been disturbed. Those are tight quarters for a construction site!
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Old January 12th, 2011, 01:31 AM   #853
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Welcome to NYC. Logistically hardest sites to build in the world.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 02:39 AM   #854
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The lobby and those 2 floors we see, are bigger than other floors..Next floor will be smaller..And every after..We'll see 3 those smaller floors (to the height of the building on the left side) and then it goes first curve inward..
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Old January 17th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #855
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Why Your Next Place May Cost More



By VIVIAN S. TOY
January 14, 2011



Now, as the market plods along in a slow but steady recovery, brokers and developers are saying the city will soon face a shortage of new development projects.

Brokers, developers and market watchers say that barring any significant economic hiccups, real estate values in Manhattan will continue to grow at a measured rate through 2011. But starting in 2012, after most or all the new projects that were stalled or delayed have finally sold out, the supply of new apartments will take a decided dip, and prices for all apartments could start to rise significantly again. “Once we work through the existing inventory and there’s nothing new coming on line,” said Kelly Mack, the president of the Corcoran Sunshine Marketing Group, “there’s going to be a major shift in the market. Prices may start going up significantly in 2012, in anticipation of the shift in inventory.”

Gary Barnett, the president of Extell Development and one of the few developers who continued building through the downturn, said the lack of inventory was more pronounced now than in previous recessions. “In the early 1990s,” he said, “there was a big overhang of things that had been built in the late ’80s, but when things stopped this time, it just fell off a cliff.”

Last year, Extell started a hotel/condo project on West 57th Street near Carnegie Hall with 136 condo units, which Mr. Barnett said would come to market in 2013.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 02:26 PM   #856
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Wich only means good news and more condo towers going up next years right?
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Old January 17th, 2011, 02:33 PM   #857
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glad to hear that C57 is still rising. now if they only could keep the momentum going...
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Old January 17th, 2011, 02:46 PM   #858
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Old January 18th, 2011, 01:57 AM   #859
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Str is the best! man that must have taken forever!
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Old January 18th, 2011, 02:45 AM   #860
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thats gonna be one big shadow over central park O_O
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