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Old March 7th, 2011, 10:37 PM   #961
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Looks like they will have to jump the crane soon - no?

Also, the amount of work they have to do with wood is amazing. If they have to do that for each floor to pour concrete won't this thing be very slow? Also, why can't they use steel sections bolted together for most of it rather than wood?
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Wood is lighter than steel. Yes it might be a task to continually rebuild the wooden concrete forms, but it would be a much bigger task to try to maneuver large and heavy steel forms out from between all of the pillars. Wood is cheap, light, easy to work with, and quick for building forms. Seems pretty standard to me, an probably just as quick as any steel forms.

The other techniques that I have seen involve pouring on top of corrugated steel panels and leaving them in place after the pour. This building is not using corrugated steel between the floors, probably has to do with a commercial v. residential regulatory distinction.
Yes, it' a good point..Wood is perfect for residential concrete building..Just as Eddie said, it's way easier to work with and transport it through the site and apartment rooms which are more complicated to build than large office rooms..As you can see on the pics, there's a lot of smaller wooden support beams..And you don't even need a crane to lift them to another floor..They're light so human can handle it...

And concrete is perfect for this "net" of walls and columns in residential buildings..They just put together those wooden forms and place in steel armature..And it's ready for the concrete which is often filled with additives for faster drying..That's why building grow so fast..
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Old March 8th, 2011, 05:30 PM   #962
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Yesterday, March 6th, taken by Daniel Burnett..

Great update. It's great to see that this construction has reached the small building next door.

It is 8-storey ... Very good.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 12:22 AM   #963
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Today, March 10th, nycdagreatest, Skyscraperpage..

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Old March 11th, 2011, 12:25 AM   #964
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Good update. Is that the 1st setback in the 1st pic? Top floor seems to be more backward.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 12:30 AM   #965
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Good update. Is that the 1st setback in the 1st pic? Top floor seems to be more backward.
Yes..They're workin' on the 2nd "setback" floor...It's almost a floor per week...Also, there are new crane parts...And the lobby on the 58th street seems to be done...The tower is gettin' smaller so expect it rise faster..
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Old March 12th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #966
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It's amazing to me that they can build a tower of this size with such limited space for delivering and staging materials and equipment. Do they close the street (or part of it) late at night?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 09:49 AM   #967
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On the website of Emporis, the building height is 290.50 meters with 73 floors:
http://www.emporis.com/building/155w...orkcity-ny-usa

And now, this is real? Does anyone know answer me?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 11:53 PM   #968
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http://www.emporis.com/building/155w...mage&id=693524

i think its the high from this building who was planned before.
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On the website of Emporis, the building height is 290.50 meters with 73 floors:
http://www.emporis.com/building/155w...orkcity-ny-usa

And now, this is real? Does anyone know answer me?
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http://www.emporis.com/building/155w...mage&id=693524

i think its the high from this building who was planned before.
Yes it could be..I don't trust emporis too much..As you can see, they still have old renders...
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People renting high-floor offices in Carnegie Hall Tower can't be too happy about this... The last photo above really shows how this new tower will directly block their Central Park views!
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People renting high-floor offices in Carnegie Hall Tower can't be too happy about this... The last photo above really shows how this new tower will directly block their Central Park views!
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Old March 14th, 2011, 04:34 AM   #974
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They get over. 9 out of 10 they'd just move into, a building with a better view.
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Old March 14th, 2011, 06:44 AM   #975
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Yes it could be..I don't trust emporis too much..As you can see, they still have old renders...
Yeaah, I really suspected that this site is wrong (outdated).
How nice that this site is not very reliable... hahaha

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Old March 14th, 2011, 01:18 PM   #976
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the height you mentioned is from the DOB, which only states building heights to the heighest occupied floor, not counting crowns, parapets or spires.
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Old March 14th, 2011, 02:37 PM   #977
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the height you mentioned is from the DOB, which only states building heights to the heighest occupied floor, not counting crowns, parapets or spires.
But it confused me too, it says "Height (architectural)" 290.50 m..
But according to the Emporis standards, "The architectural height of a structure is the elevation from its base to its highest architectural element. The base is defined as the lowest point at the perimeter which intersects with the surrounding ground level. Architectural elements include everything which is integral to the design, including sculptures, spires, screens, parapets, and decorative features."

http://standards.emporis.com/?nav=gl...ng=3&esn=19417

But there is something in your point..I guess you're right and Emporis is a mess..
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this picture is perfect to see the progress from the building

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Funny to see how the neighbouring building is windowless on the site of Carnegie.
When I was in New York last summer I saw a similar buiding, but much higher I think between 150-250 meters, which also had a windowless side. Just like theyre gonna build 500+m towers everywhere so when building other buildings the already take this in consideration.

But who forbids them not to put windows in on one or even two sides? Is is the owner of the adjacent plot, or the city counsil or what?
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Funny to see how the neighbouring building is windowless on the site of Carnegie.
When I was in New York last summer I saw a similar buiding, but much higher I think between 150-250 meters, which also had a windowless side. Just like theyre gonna build 500+m towers everywhere so when building other buildings the already take this in consideration.

But who forbids them not to put windows in on one or even two sides? Is is the owner of the adjacent plot, or the city counsil or what?
I don't think it's forbiden...I think it was in architect's and investor's plan to build it that way, since everything is so dense..So, if someone decide to destroy neighbour building down and build another taller up, there's no panic and closed windows..
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