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Old March 14th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #981
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But who forbids them not to put windows in on one or even two sides? Is is the owner of the adjacent plot, or the city counsil or what?
In New York City Building codes there is something called air rights. Basically you buy the adjacent buildings air rights (so lets say the building next door could of been 10 floors but its only 4, you buy those 6 floors they did not build) and in essence are allowed to build windows for those 6 floors because the building next door cant build the extra floors its allowed to under law since you bought them.

Air rights also allow you to build a higher tower with the extra floors (square feet generally) you bought. But of course there are limits to how much square feet and bonuses you can get in one site. Here, the building next door didn't buy the air rights of the Carnegie 57 tower because the developer of this building was actually trying to get the air rights of the buildings around him and obviously was not trying to sell some of his air rights. I hope that was somewhat helpful lol.
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Old March 15th, 2011, 04:39 AM   #982
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Funny to see how the neighbouring building is windowless on the site of Carnegie.
When I was in New York last summer I saw a similar buiding, but much higher I think between 150-250 meters, which also had a windowless side. Just like theyre gonna build 500+m towers everywhere so when building other buildings the already take this in consideration.

But who forbids them not to put windows in on one or even two sides? Is is the owner of the adjacent plot, or the city counsil or what?
In NYC building code, I think the relevant language is regarding "lot line windows". When the building directly borders another site on which development is possible, there are restrictions as to what size and number of windows can go in. Windows are only allowed under certain conditions:
http://permitspace.blogspot.com/2007...e-windows.html
1. Lot Line windows are of very limited area (see Table 3-4 & TPPN 10/87)
2. Lot Line Windows cannot serve as required windows for light & ventilation (amenity only).
3. Lot Line Windows must be constructed of wired, tempered, or laminated glass, and must be protected with a Sprinkler Head mounted on the inside of the occupied space.
4. Lot Line Windows must be sealed if an adjacent property owner enlarges their building vertically to block such openings.
5. A Lot Line Window Declaration is required between adjacent property owners.

I don't know if that's the full story of what is going on with that blank wall... But maybe given all the restrictions, plus the possible use of air rights on the lot next door, the developers of that building did not think it was worth it to put windows on that side of the building.

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Old March 16th, 2011, 01:18 AM   #983
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Thanks, that's good info on the building codes.

After a bit of thought, it makes sense to me. Imagine when a new building is built immediately next to another, with both exactly on the property line. Construction workers would be attempting to construct a wall within inches of the glass in the window. This would be dangerous.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 07:38 AM   #984
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What's the point of adding windows, if there going to get blackout by the building next door. The lots are close together and the block was filled with old row houses. You would really have to buy both lots and build the building in the middle to have windows on all sides of a building.
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Old March 16th, 2011, 09:49 AM   #985
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another super tall that i have no idea of is getting build, how many super talls in newyork r getting build or propose?
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Old March 16th, 2011, 01:49 PM   #986
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4 U/C, 4 approved and 5 proposed. see also here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=225
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Old March 18th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #987
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March 18th, nycdagreatest, Skyscraperpage..

Looks like a floor per week..

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Old March 18th, 2011, 07:48 PM   #988
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March 18th, nycdagreatest, Skyscraperpage..

Looks like a floor per week..
finally, it's about time this thing starts taking shape! thanks for the update.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 08:06 PM   #989
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9th floor WOW ;D
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Old March 18th, 2011, 08:17 PM   #990
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Yup..It's gettin' taller, smaller and faster..A couple of more floors and it should be visible from the Central Park..Left and right from the Essex..It's about 60 m tall right now..The crane is already visible from certain angles from Central Park..

And we should see the external elevator soon on the left side of building..I hope soon..
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Old March 19th, 2011, 06:00 AM   #991
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Dino, what are those things that they placed on top of the structure in your 4th pic?
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oilmanjr - I was wondering the same thing at first. It's actually the top of the Trump Parc building at 106 Central Park South. From that angle, it just looks to be placed directly on top of the scaffolding...

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Lol I can believe you'll thought that, was a part of thus building.
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oilmanjr - I was wondering the same thing at first. It's actually the top of the Trump Parc building at 106 Central Park South. From that angle, it just looks to be placed directly on top of the scaffolding...
Optical illusion..It's New York, everything is possible..
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How are they going to put cladding on the walls that are pretty much touching the buildings beside it?
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How are they going to put cladding on the walls that are pretty much touching the buildings beside it?
That's the easy part..They won't..
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Peek a boo.. See it?

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It's Sunday, day for update..March 20th, by Daniel Burnett..

10th floor on his way..













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Old March 21st, 2011, 02:55 AM   #999
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Can anyone tell me what those yellow straps are hanging down in the last picture and what they are used for?

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I love watching the World Trade Center rise, but honestly, this has to be the most interesting construction project I have ever seen. This will get very impressive as it gets higher!

Will the single tower crane on the sidewalk be able to still deliver material to the top of the structure once the building has a few setbacks away from the street?
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