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Old June 7th, 2011, 12:43 AM   #1381
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Well, let's just say New York was overwhelming.....When I will go another time I'm sure I will notice it!
You can spot them ez. Come to or from the Lincoln tunnel
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Old June 7th, 2011, 01:21 AM   #1382
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Some great heli ride pics there!
Took a while for me to realize that the dark rectangle right of Central Park Tower belongs to the framework box of Carnegie 57...
it's better visible in the fullsize version (9 MB).
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Old June 7th, 2011, 06:45 AM   #1383
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That's a tough find haha. First I had to find out whcih one Central Park Tower was, but I'm pretty sure I found it.
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Old June 7th, 2011, 09:28 AM   #1384
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Well, when I saw that helicoptershot (or plane?) I remembered those towers again. It is at the corner at Central Park and the marathon comes alongside. Great shot by the way!
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Old June 7th, 2011, 08:54 PM   #1385
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19th fl is counted as a mechanical floor? Also, I've noticed that 20th fl is not at all mechanical, it also includes a pool, spa, gym, lockers, steam and sauna rooms... Should it be counted as a M-fl?
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Old June 7th, 2011, 11:12 PM   #1386
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Having some problems with the diagram, hope someone could help me.

There's a mechanical floor at 47th:



And if I continue counting on the rendering, I'll stop at 72th fl.


Now here comes the tricky part: because of the angle of the render, it seems that I've just reached the top of the building, not true. Because of the angle of the render, we can only see the flat part of the building, the curved final section isn't visible, unless you see the building from a considerable higher elevation:





My question is, what about the other "floors"? Is there any equipment, structure or anything else... or is it just the parapet?

Another important question, according to my "analysis" there are only 66 floors that maintain the same floor height; 1st, 2nd, 3th and 4th have a different floor height, also 20th (M), 47th (M) and 73-75th (M). My question is, according to the schedule provided by Dino, 19th is also mechanical. Probably another floor with different height?
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Old June 8th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #1387
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Yes, 47th is mechanical..There's mechanical room, pump room, electrical room, fan room and tank room..

72nd is still residential..The last one..Upper duplex..

73rd is mechanical..Again mechanical room, tank room and electrical room..Interesting part is that's 2 floors high..Just count 2 floors as one on the renders..

74th is also mechanical..Mechanical room..It's also 2 floors high..

75th is the roof..Also 2 floors high..
All those mechanical floors on the top are about 6m high..
Try that Otie..

About the 19th floor..
That's the part which confuses me for long time already..On the renders, 20th floor has bars which are usually on mechanical floors..And floor schedule says that 19th is mechanical..

I gave up thinkin' about that and decided to wait for windscreens to rise on upper floors so we can actually see which one is mechanical..19th or 20th..It should be higher than others..
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Old June 8th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #1388
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This is my theory..This smaller setback is whole 73rd floor..If you look closely you'll see that there's no floor deck on top of it..Also, there are openings on 75th floor..That's the roof..





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Old June 8th, 2011, 07:10 PM   #1389
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^ Helped a lot! Now I'm understanding this building after a while... Another question, Dino: What's the real height? Christian De Portzamparc's website claims it's 1004' 5", CTBUH says it's 1005.9' and other resources (mainly articles) call it a 1003' ft tall tower. Probably varying typographical elevations?
CTBUH now calls it as "One57", we should report a status change...
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Old June 8th, 2011, 08:34 PM   #1390
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^ Helped a lot! Now I'm understanding this building after a while... Another question, Dino: What's the real height? Christian De Portzamparc's website claims it's 1004' 5", CTBUH says it's 1005.9' and other resources (mainly articles) call it a 1003' ft tall tower. Probably varying typographical elevations?
CTBUH now calls it as "One57", we should report a status change...
Yes, elevations are probably the main reason..
Elevation of W58th street is a little bit higher than elevation of W57th..There are 2 entrances..One on 57th and one on 58th street..CTBUH always count height from the lowest entrance..Which is on 57th street..It's possible that Portzamparc's website has height from 58th street..That's why it's a bit shorter..

Here's quote from one of the forumers here..

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Whatever they are going to end up calling it, this building will be 1005.09 ft. (306.35 m.) and 75 floors, unless there is a design change. Source: blueprints viewed in construction trailer a year ago.
And about the name, yes, it should be changed to One57..
Cool name..I like it..

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Old June 8th, 2011, 08:49 PM   #1391
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wow, I just realized something. The taller part of this building in the 58th Street side, not the 57th street side. Because the crane is on 57th street and it is most prominent from 57th street I assumed that was the main part of the building - but apparently that is wrong. Is my new understanding correct?
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Old June 8th, 2011, 09:24 PM   #1392
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wow, I just realized something. The taller part of this building in the 58th Street side, not the 57th street side. Because the crane is on 57th street and it is most prominent from 57th street I assumed that was the main part of the building - but apparently that is wrong. Is my new understanding correct?
The tallest part is somewhere in the middle..On the 57th street are setbacks, on the 58th street is only lobby..Everything goes to the middle..

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Old June 8th, 2011, 11:54 PM   #1393
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Nothing serious, just messing and having some fun with what I've already have...

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Old June 9th, 2011, 12:05 AM   #1394
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Well, that gives us a very good idea of what to expect.

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Old June 9th, 2011, 06:07 PM   #1395
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Citigroup, bloomberg, time Warner and now Carnegie, holding down the back end of Midtown. Midtown is a giant architecture canvas
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Old June 9th, 2011, 08:15 PM   #1396
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Old June 10th, 2011, 02:11 PM   #1397
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Yes, 47th is mechanical..There's mechanical room, pump room, electrical room, fan room and tank room..

72nd is still residential..The last one..Upper duplex..

73rd is mechanical..Again mechanical room, tank room and electrical room..Interesting part is that's 2 floors high..Just count 2 floors as one on the renders..

74th is also mechanical..Mechanical room..It's also 2 floors high..

75th is the roof..Also 2 floors high..
All those mechanical floors on the top are about 6m high..
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Too bad these are all technical floors. Would be an amazing location for an observation point or restaurant.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 08:12 PM   #1398
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Eureka! If De Portzamparc's building is designed in imperial system (with a precission of 1") and his rendering/diagram is accurate and on-scale, then the typical floor height from slab to slab is 12' 5" (~3.78m) !!
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Old June 11th, 2011, 12:14 AM   #1399
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All the morning working on this b*tch...





Due to the lack of information aviable and renderings so confusing, model is not as accurate as I expected, though it should give a clear idea of what they're building. (Interval of error: 0-4')
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Great work Otie!
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