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Old June 22nd, 2011, 03:36 AM   #1441
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I was just about to point out. That the gray part of ESB is the spire, which reaches 1,250 feet. And the bullshit on top of that is the antenna.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:20 AM   #1442
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Is it really "correct" to call that gray part on the ESB a "spire" though? I mean it's habitable and there are floors in it and everything.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:37 AM   #1443
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Yeah it's correct because it's a spire with a Observation deck. There's no rule that says how big a spire can be.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 05:09 AM   #1444
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That's correct. But the ESB's "spire" has a use besides decoration. The things on top of Taipei 101 and the Petronas Towers, I would call spires, because they are simply there for decoration (and in Petronas's case, height). I'm not sure about the ESB though.

Sorry if this is getting annoying or has been discussed before :/
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 06:46 AM   #1445
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Are you thinking of doing diagrams for any other buildings U/C Otie?
Only if I have enough information, and time to research. I don't like guessing and I always try to be the most precisse as posible. This was an exception, and perhaps the last time I'll do somthing like this. 2WTC and 3WTC are on my list-to-do.

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One thing about your diagram though. While you get the height correct I don't think you have the other dimensions correct. You make the Carnegie Tower look bulkier than the ESB and that is obviously not the case. Maybe there is some way to fix that.
Perspective, my friend. ESB is a bit away from the camera, while One 57 is the closest one. Also, the ESB looks much bulkier when you see the north/south faces; on the diagram is shown with a ~40° turn, dominating the east/west face, which is slimmer.
The dimensions have an interval of error of 0'-3' (0-~1m).

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Did you leave the spire out on ESB on purpose?
Or just forgot it?
With spire it's like 440meters or something
Well, while editing and moving the png render on the image editor, it somehow cut out from the original size. You can notice this cutting on the highest line. But then when I saved and noticed this error, I leaved like that and made no corrections since the antenna is not an architectural element. So the error helped in a certain way.

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Tha is a nice diagram. I would also highlight the 100m, 200m and 300m lines. That would make it easier to compare heights.
Next diagram will.

Dino, I was waiting the whole Sunday for your updates, thanks man! Some pics are pretty valuable.

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Old June 22nd, 2011, 12:43 PM   #1446
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Dino, I was waiting the whole Sunday for your updates, thanks man! Some pics are pretty valuable.
No problem man..Thank to Dan Burnett which is forumer here with nick 600West218..He's out every Sunday taking those pics..

That diagram is ******' amazing..I wish I could buy this place..I know this building so well that I have feeling like I actually built this thing..
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 12:53 PM   #1447
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 01:18 PM   #1449
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 06:39 PM   #1450
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Hopefully the speed will start picking up at the site so there will be more noticeable changes in future pics. If I run into any workers I'll definitely ask them what has caused the delays, but on Sunday's there tend to not be many people around.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 12:55 AM   #1451
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Is there something that indicates a construction delay?
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 03:49 AM   #1452
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It would suck big time if this turned into another Waterview Tower.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 04:12 AM   #1453
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Is there something that indicates a construction delay?
Each time I've gone down there for the past 3 or 4 weeks it seems, at least from the 57th Street side, to be about the same height. So their is at least a perceived delay, if not a real one.

The elevator work on the 58th street side that I saw this week looked new though.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 06:55 AM   #1454
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Floors 60-70 only have one apartment per floor!? I want one!
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 10:24 AM   #1455
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That's correct. But the ESB's "spire" has a use besides decoration. The things on top of Taipei 101 and the Petronas Towers, I would call spires, because they are simply there for decoration (and in Petronas's case, height). I'm not sure about the ESB though.

Sorry if this is getting annoying or has been discussed before :/
Taipei 101 would have been the tallest without the spire, unlike petronas towers.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 05:32 PM   #1456
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Each time I've gone down there for the past 3 or 4 weeks it seems, at least from the 57th Street side, to be about the same height. So their is at least a perceived delay, if not a real one.

The elevator work on the 58th street side that I saw this week looked new though.
Maybe it's just your perception. When it's closer to ground it looks to rise faster, and when it rises the height changes look less big by an optic illusion.
At least I hope that's the case. Could just be they really delayed it, or that they're first going to do interior works before going higher again.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 05:34 PM   #1457
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Wooo, thread name changed.

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Old June 23rd, 2011, 08:12 PM   #1459
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has the hotel operator been confirmed yet?
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 08:26 PM   #1460
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I liked Carnegie 57 better
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