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Old July 17th, 2011, 05:46 PM   #1561
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I think the metric system is better. It's easier to work with since each measure is 10x the measure below it and 0.1x the measure above it
I agree that it's better. More importantly, it's the universal system, and therefore, it's crazy for the Yanks to ignore it. They think that they rule the world.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 05:53 PM   #1562
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I agree that it's better. More importantly, it's the universal system, and therefore, it's crazy for the Yanks to ignore it. They think that they rule the world.
Wrong reason. We don't change it because we're too lazy to. Although a large bit of use of the metric system has been well integrated into American society. As well as international businesses for obvious reasons.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 07:06 PM   #1563
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We don't "ignore" the metric system nor are we "too lazy". It's all about economics. It'll cost the country hundreds of billions of dollars to change. We've got enough financial problems at the moment to deal with without adding one more to it.

Another generation or two and it could happen.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #1564
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We don't "ignore" the metric system nor are we "too lazy". It's all about economics. It'll cost the country hundreds of billions of dollars to change. We've got enough financial problems at the moment to deal with without adding one more to it.

Another generation or two and it could happen.
Actually, having to buy separately-designed non-metric equipment costs us more money in the long run, as does dual notation of sizes.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 07:33 PM   #1565
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Actually, having to buy separately-designed non-metric equipment costs us more money in the long run, as does dual notation of sizes.
As far as the little people, and the blue collar people go, metric is not a problem. The change was voted on I think twice, and people were unwilling to change and more or less afraid it would be a bad change.
But it is more integrated at this point in the world of manufacturing, and things like "contracting skyscrapers, or engineering automobiles." where overseas exports/imports are a true factor. The united states is clearly not an isolated nation, and it is vital that measurement systems can correspond between countries, but it is virtually unrealistic to simply switch a system of measurement in the blink of an eye without chaos.
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Question: Is this building L-shape a part of the way up as the Google image suggests it could be or is that just the lobby portion? I don't believe so based on the renders but just want to be sure.

When was the metric system voted on? Never that I can recall. When I was in school in the 70s they said metric would be switched to in 10 years or so. They even started putting stuff like speed limit signs with metric numbers. But it seemed to never catch on and so they got rid of what little bit they did.

I doubt they'll be any change anytime soon. The US is a huge country so it has no compelling reason to change. There are lots of tiny countries that have their own languages that no one else speaks and they don't give it up even though that is very costly and limiting.

To each their own.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #1567
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I agree that it's better. More importantly, it's the universal system, and therefore, it's crazy for the Yanks to ignore it. They think that they rule the world.
I always was under the impression you were American...

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Old July 17th, 2011, 07:56 PM   #1568
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Congress authorized a special board to study and implement metrication to take place over a decade in the 70s, but when it reported towards the end of the decade it didn't have the power to mandate metrication, Reagan disbanded the board in '82.

Anyways, this is one fine looking building and I'm glad that One57, much like other buildings under construction in Manhattan, is progressing at a good pace.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 08:00 PM   #1569
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I always was under the impression you were American...

I'm half American, and I grew up here.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 08:18 PM   #1570
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I know it isn't easy to change something that one needs to measure. For example, we have Euro for 2 and a half years now but I still think of it as 30 Slovak Crowns. And in fact, I think I'll think about it this way 'til I die.

On the other hand, it is a good idea to slowly change to the metric system because it's superior after all, what is easier, to multiply something by 1000 (meter-kilometer) or to multiply something by 5280 (foot-mile)?
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Old July 17th, 2011, 08:30 PM   #1571
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When I was in first grade are school tried to teach us the metric system. The whole country was making the change over. Guest it didn't catch on because that was 23 years ago.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 08:39 PM   #1572
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I know it isn't easy to change something that one needs to measure. For example, we have Euro for 2 and a half years now but I still think of it as 30 Slovak Crowns. And in fact, I think I'll think about it this way 'til I die.

On the other hand, it is a good idea to slowly change to the metric system because it's superior after all, what is easier, to multiply something by 1000 (meter-kilometer) or to multiply something by 5280 (foot-mile)?
Im more than on board to make a full switch as an American, and I think alot of people are in the younger generations, because we were better introduced to it in school, and the globally interactive world around us demands some sort of knowledge of the metric system. It's not that Americans aren't familiar with it. It is only the constant references we have with km to miles and gallons to liters. Someday this country will use all metric without even realizing they converted. It's happening right now.
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I know it isn't easy to change something that one needs to measure. For example, we have Euro for 2 and a half years now but I still think of it as 30 Slovak Crowns. And in fact, I think I'll think about it this way 'til I die.
I knew it, you are not from the U.S.! A Slovak guy going crazy about the old WTC and at the same time trying to badmouth the new WTC wherever he can, well that's what I call "Internet- Globalization"!
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Old July 17th, 2011, 11:09 PM   #1574
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Everything I am I owe to America. After 41 years of commies we were totally cultureless. Nearly everything had to be shipped from abroad and 98% of all imported books and films were American. I grew up on American culture

Also, it is my big dream to one day move to Phoenix. However, that might be quite some years away from me since I now have a family, but don't have any college so far
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Question: Is this building L-shape a part of the way up as the Google image suggests it could be or is that just the lobby portion? I don't believe so based on the renders but just want to be sure.

When was the metric system voted on? Never that I can recall. When I was in school in the 70s they said metric would be switched to in 10 years or so. They even started putting stuff like speed limit signs with metric numbers. But it seemed to never catch on and so they got rid of what little bit they did.

I doubt they'll be any change anytime soon. The US is a huge country so it has no compelling reason to change. There are lots of tiny countries that have their own languages that no one else speaks and they don't give it up even though that is very costly and limiting.

To each their own.
L-shape goes all the way to the top..Only that darker square up there is the lobby..It's nice to see finally what's goin' on the top..Even if it's Google Earth photo..
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I live in Belgium (in Western Europe, in case you might not know that), wich has never been under any kind of blocking whatso ever.
And 98% of the movies, series, soaps, etc. on our television channels is American. And it isn't dubbed like in France, Germany,etc. It is in english, but with Dutch subtitles. ALso our music is 70% American en 30% Belgian, but the Belgian songs are also being sung in english.
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I live in Belgium (in Western Europe, in case you might not know that), wich has never been under any kind of blocking whatso ever.
And 98% of the movies, series, soaps, etc. on our television channels is American. And it isn't dubbed like in France, Germany,etc. It is in english, but with Dutch subtitles. ALso our music is 70% American en 30% Belgian, but the Belgian songs are also being sung in english.
So it looks like it is exactly as Rammstein sings: "We're all living in Amerika, Amerika ist wunderbar!"
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Old July 18th, 2011, 09:22 PM   #1578
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So it looks like it is exactly as Rammstein sings: "We're all living in Amerika, Amerika ist wunderbar!"
i love american cities.. But i don't love america anymore like i did when i was young ..
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I like this discussion, but I gotta say this has becomen extremely off topic.
So Be a bit spare with off topic discussions
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Old July 19th, 2011, 01:06 PM   #1580
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Indeed. People, stop discussing offtopic issues here. It's all looking neat since you didn't insult each other or blatantly trolled, but it still doesn't belong here. Go there to discuss general matters on American culture or whatever you like: International Skybar.

I'll delete any upcoming offtopic posts. Cordial thanks for your attention.
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