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Old August 10th, 2011, 02:05 PM   #1701
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something Scalziand from SSP did. One57 with the revised Verre.

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I went ahead and revised my sketchup model for verre.


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Old August 10th, 2011, 02:09 PM   #1702
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I know that this is a topic about 157, but I gotta say it, Verre looks so good in that render
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Old August 10th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #1703
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It won't be much of an asset to nyc's mammoth skyline, but it will look amazing without doubt.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 12:37 PM   #1704
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So they did the basement works and roughly 23 floors in only one year? WOW!!!
80 years ago they could do excavation, foundation, basements and 102 floors in 15 months, so I don't really think it's that impressive.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #1705
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80 years ago they could do excavation, foundation, basements and 102 floors in 15 months, so I don't really think it's that impressive.
That speed was accomplished with little regard to worker safety. I don't see the problem with the slower pace of today. Deaths and injuries are a part of building skyscrapers. But there is no reason to build at the pace they once were. Especially when you look at all the deaths and injuries that occured with such a fast pace.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #1706
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Nobody was killed when they built ESB.
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Old August 11th, 2011, 08:28 PM   #1707
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Nobody was killed when they built ESB.
Five workers died building the ESB.




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Old August 11th, 2011, 08:51 PM   #1708
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Deaths at the ESB would have been due to poor safety equipment and the poor emergency medical care. Just look at the famous pick from that era of the workers sitting on the RCA building beam with no harnesses on!!

They could probably be both safe and fast but it would probably cost more money and require better coordination (ie you have less time to evaluate and make change orders).

It is ironic how in spite of better technology we are slower at lots of things. Maybe we all hang out on internet forums too much?
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Old August 11th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #1709
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Damn what's what I get for reading 60 year old books lol.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 03:58 AM   #1710
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Hi, can someone show me, where One57 will exactly rise here?
If I'm not mistaken, you can see the crane for this project near the right side of this photo. So, the building will someday be where the crane is now.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 04:01 AM   #1711
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something Scalziand from SSP did. One57 with the revised Verre.
It's amazing how much less of an impact Verre has on the skyline than 157. They are both nice looking towers, though. Views from both will be beyond incredible.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 05:57 AM   #1712
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It's amazing how much less of an impact Verre has on the skyline than 157. They are both nice looking towers, though. Views from both will be beyond incredible.
Given the NIMBY neighbors, it would have been difficult to get a massive tower through the approval process. Since it's a residential, the floorplates are smaller and this one will appear as a needle on the skyline. I think people will also be surprised how slender One57 is once it gets past the wider base.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 06:16 AM   #1713
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Wow this looks awesome.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 06:47 AM   #1714
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Given the NIMBY neighbors, it would have been difficult to get a massive tower through the approval process. Since it's a residential, the floorplates are smaller and this one will appear as a needle on the skyline. I think people will also be surprised how slender One57 is once it gets past the wider base.
True about the NIMBYs. I'm pleasantly surprised that these two projects were even possible at all.
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Given the NIMBY neighbors, it would have been difficult to get a massive tower through the approval process. Since it's a residential, the floorplates are smaller and this one will appear as a needle on the skyline. I think people will also be surprised how slender One57 is once it gets past the wider base.
Yeah, I consistently have the impression that the renders show more bulk to this building than it will have in reality.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 11:31 PM   #1716
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Old August 14th, 2011, 06:08 AM   #1717
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Old August 14th, 2011, 07:05 PM   #1718
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Very good pictures of the previous page.

This work has an amazing rate, I think even better than the renders will be this beautiful skyscraper
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Old August 14th, 2011, 08:28 PM   #1719
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Ok, because the person who used to post my pictures of this project is one of the people who left due to the moderator Erbse I guess I just have to describe with words what is happening.

Lots of progress this week PLUS I now see WHY previous progress seemed to be so slow.

At the sight Friday afternoon it was obvious they had gone up at least one floor. The wind screen has now passed the adjascent building.

Also, by raising the wind screen they revealed a solid concrete floor - that is a floor with solid cast concrete walls. I haven't seen that before and don't know why they would do it. But it would be a LOT of extra work and explains the "slow" progress of the past month.

Also, they had FOUR sections of crane on the street ready to go. Never seen so many!!

I went back to the sight today, Sunday morning and noticed they had put up ALL four new crane segments. So the crane got jumped much higher. Also, before it had only two braces to the building and now it has a third much higher brace. I had been waiting for that mark of progress.

So it looks like this thing is really starting to move again and barring a concrete worker strike we should see strong progress going forward.

Also, this should start to get much more visible from other vantage points now meaning others will start to photograph it more.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 09:54 PM   #1720
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Also, by raising the wind screen they revealed a solid concrete floor - that is a floor with solid cast concrete walls.
Thanks for the update man! Does the solid concrete floor even have solid concrete on the outside (so no windows)? Thanks!
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