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Old December 30th, 2008, 10:27 PM   #1
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NBA Europe

When NBA commissioner David Stern announced his ambitions to put a permanent NBA Division in Europe, he said that the main thing in the way was a lack of NBA arenas. What cities have what is considered an NBA arena and what cities are planning to or building these arenas?
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Old December 30th, 2008, 10:42 PM   #2
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Well, London has The O2 which can be used for basketball. I don't know how practical that would be for regular games though.







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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:11 PM   #3
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BERLIN - O2 Arena (15,500)
BELGRADE - Beogradska Arena (19,982)
KAUNAS - Kaunas Arena (14,500)
PRAGUE - O2 Arena(fromer Sazka)(16,805)
ISTANBUL - Fenerbahçe Arena (15,000)
ZAGREB - Zagreb Arena (16,500)
KOLN - Köln Arena

these might fit...

As for London and Prague - they don't have any decent basketball clubs, so they probably fall out.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:21 PM   #4
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As for London and Prague - they don't have any decent basketball clubs, so they probably fall out.
What does having a decent club have to do with anything, they would be independent stand alone NBA expansion franchises, and i'm sure the market in London is far more attractive than that of a Balkan or Baltic nation regardless of how passionate the fans are for the sports.. money talks!

And how many of those arenas you posted are up to NBA standards, with adequate corporate and media facilities???
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:28 PM   #5
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So NBA Europe is just NBA played in Europe, not European clubs playing NBA clubs? Sorry then, my mistake.

All of those arenas are either new or u/c. The Istanbul one is going to start soon. So.. Imo, they should all be up to the standarts. Anyway, if it's only NBA played in Europe, then nobody cares...
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:43 PM   #6
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I did mean NBA teams in Europe
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Old December 30th, 2008, 11:47 PM   #7
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BERLIN - O2 Arena (15,500)
BELGRADE - Beogradska Arena (19,982)
KAUNAS - Kaunas Arena (14,500)
PRAGUE - O2 Arena(fromer Sazka)(16,805)
ISTANBUL - Fenerbahçe Arena (15,000)
ZAGREB - Zagreb Arena (16,500)
KOLN - Köln Arena

these might fit...

As for London and Prague - they don't have any decent basketball clubs, so they probably fall out.
Zagreb Arena is opened...And it looks amazing...It would be great to see NBA here...
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I figure at least five to six teams would have to form a new division in order to make it work. What cities are the most likely?

What about....

Madrid
Barcelona
Milan
Rome
London? (not sure if there is enough fandom to make work)
Athens?
Berlin?

I think any home arena's would at least have to be 17,500-18,000+
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Old December 31st, 2008, 12:07 AM   #9
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I figure at least five to six teams would have to form a new division in order to make it work. What cities are the most likely?

What about....

Madrid
Barcelona
Milan
Rome
London? (not sure if there is enough fandom to make work)
Athens?
Berlin?

I think any home arena's would at least have to be 17,500-18,000+

You'd only need 4 teams, 2 expansion and 2 relocations, then divisions could be re aligned like the NFL, 8 divisions of 4.

and trust me London would work massive expat american community, and regularl free to air NBA coverage, and a city of 7 million, in a media market of 20 million+(60 million if you count the UK as one market, which it really is), i think London could handle a franchise, it would be more like the UKs team though
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Old December 31st, 2008, 12:24 AM   #10
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Manchester, UK MEN arena capacity around 18,000 for basketball
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Old December 31st, 2008, 12:35 AM   #11
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You don't need only a 15,000-20,000 arena, but one with NBA standards and a market able to make it profitable.

Madrid, Barcelona, London, Paris, Milan, Rome, Athens or Istambul are some of the possible options.
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by NBA standards, we are talking about seating, luxury boxes, press boxes, etc.
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TBF President talked about it.
As far as i remeber he said that you need a +15,000 modern arena.

Belgrade
Belgrade Arena (19.982) - 66 suites

London
The O2 arena (18,689) - 96 suites

Cologne
Lanxess Arena (18,500) - 60 suites

Prague
o2 Arena / Sazka Arena (17,360) - 70 suites

Zagreb
Arena Zagreb (16,500) - 14 suites

Berlin
O2 World (15,500) - 59 suites


Athens and Istanbul will have new arena. But i do not know if they will be +15k
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TBF President talked about it.
As far as i remeber he said that you need a +15,000 modern arena.

Belgrade
Belgrade Arena (19.982) - 66 suites

London
The O2 arena (18,689) - 96 suites

Cologne
Lanxess Arena (18,500) - 60 suites

Prague
o2 Arena / Sazka Arena (17,360) - 70 suites

Zagreb
Arena Zagreb (16,500) - 14 suites

Berlin
O2 World (15,500) - 59 suites


Athens and Istanbul will have new arena. But i do not know if they will be +15k

So would the MEN arena make the cut?
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Actually i don't know about MEN.
I wrote a mail to them and asked about the basketball capacity.
They said its 13,800 (or something)
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Actually i don't know about MEN.
I wrote a mail to them and asked about the basketball capacity.
They said its 13,800 (or something)
Well considering they used to get 17,500 for ice hockey games when manchester storm played there, I don't think 13,800 is correct.
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Therefore i asked them again yesterday.
But still no answer
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The architect of Kaunas Arena said that if it is needed it would be posible to expand the arena for over 15000 places. And suits number in Kaunas will be pretty much BIG - 78.
And media market would be: city of over 1 million (Dipolis), over 3 million in LT and over 7 million in Baltic states. We allready have team - Zalgiris which is like all Lithuania team.

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Therefore i asked them again yesterday.
But still no answer
The Wikipedia article on the MEN arena gives its capacity for basketball as 20,500. The Manchester Magic once got over 14,000 for a game, although in truth there isn't the interest to make a team at the MEN sustainable.
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All those Arenas are ok...But if you want see 15 000 + visitors in those arenas, you need a basketball team good enough for NBA...Because nobody will go watch teams which can't win...If you know what I mean...
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