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Old March 18th, 2010, 02:27 AM   #21
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Yes, Chadstone Shopping Centre's new luxury precinct. Also home to Louis Vuitton, Prada, Miu Miu, Chanel, Burberry, Coach, Ralph Lauren, Hugo Boss, Jimmy Choo, Tiffany and Co and Omega. Chadstone is now the largest shopping centre in the Southern Hemisphere with 530 stores
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Thanks Sky, how big is Chadstone?
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Old March 18th, 2010, 11:50 AM   #23
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In comparison to those in the Northern Hemisphere, it's quite small.

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Total retail floor area - 186,500mē (lettable)
No. of stores and services - 530
Parking - 9500
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Just to confirm that Chadstone is a suburb in Melbourne about 15 minutes by car from the centre of the city. It is the biggest Shopping Centre is the Southern Hemisphere. There are luxury stores in the city, however, now they are also at Chadstone. It is very Hing Kong meets Dubai but not so plastic.
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That's going out on a limb.

Not that I have been to HK, Dubai or even Chadstone but to me it is a bit of an extreme comparison
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NO I have been to all I actually was part of the development process there and trust me the quality of boutiques and investment by the Centre has paid off, simply they took what worked in Dubai and HK and made it work for themselves and the potential for growth.
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Yes, Chadstone Shopping Centre's new luxury precinct. Also home to Louis Vuitton, Prada, Miu Miu, Chanel, Burberry, Coach, Ralph Lauren, Hugo Boss, Jimmy Choo, Tiffany and Co and Omega. Chadstone is now the largest shopping centre in the Southern Hemisphere with 530 stores
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 03:23 PM   #28
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Also rumour has it that Fendi will be opening at the Casino
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It sounds nice, at least for me.

Fendi store's atomosphere is nice - Casino and Theatres.

This can also be an idea that I might like. . .
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Also rumour has it that Fendi will be opening at the Casino
Sounds like your pushing Melbourne's luxury shopping market here

But it will pale in comparison to Sydney's by 2012

For the sake of this thread, Gucci is moving from its MLC Centre Store on Castlereagh Street in Sydney to a brand new two storey flagship store at Westfield Sydney, also fronting Castlereagh Street. It's a little bit confusing to know when the new store will open but the first stage of Westfield Sydney is expected to be up and running by October of this year, so I think that is when Gucci will relocate.
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I think you'll find that as far as High-end Fashion Houses go, Melbourne will be ahead of Sydney for a while to come. Melbourne shopping, as I have said before, is superior to Sydney. Melbourne is superior in many ways to Sydney, be it trendiness etc. Face it, Sydney has a lot of catching up to do.
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I think you'll find that as far as High-end Fashion Houses go, Melbourne will be ahead of Sydney for a while to come. Melbourne shopping, as I have said before, is superior to Sydney. Melbourne is superior in many ways to Sydney, be it trendiness etc. Face it, Sydney has a lot of catching up to do.
What a load of fudge.

Sydney has more top international retailers (23%) than Melbourne (21.4%),* and it certainly has more high end fashion houses and jewellers. It has, in fact, been Melbourne that has been playing catch up in the high end sector with the opening of the luxury precinct at Chadstone, the upgrading of Collins Street boutiques, the upgrading of David Jones Melbourne City and the upgrading of Crown Casino. The only two things that Melbourne has a clear advantage in with shopping is its precincts are more attractive and it has benefited from better marketing.

Where is Louis Vuitton opening its Australian flagship? Not in Melbourne but in Sydney.^ The George Street flagship store will be one of only a handful of maison, full line stores around the globe, up there with the very best LV stores in Paris, NYC, London and Hong Kong. Opens early 2011

Where will Australia's largest Burberry flagship store be? Not in Melbourne but in Sydney. The new George Street flagship store will also be one of the largest Burbery stores in the Asia/Pacific region and will offer the full line of Burberry products.^ Opens mid/late 2010

The new Westfield Sydney will be the best upmarket shopping centre in Australia, with 6 floors and 250 stores. Harvey Nichols (though unlikely) has been invited to open a store in the new centre, with Gucci confirmed to open its new Australian flagship store and Prada, Ermenegildo Zegna, Miu Miu and Dior also rumoured. In total, over 40 new luxury brands will open in Westfield Sydney, the largest number under one roof in Australia. Opens in stages between 2010 and 2012

Barangaroo will also have a large shopping precinct and it will be capable of hosting a number of high end stores. Harvey Nichols has also been tossed around as a potential tenant there too.

Then we have the brand names that will move in and take over from the old LV, Burberry, Gucci, Prada etc stores as they relocate to bigger and more impressive stores.

In a recent article by The Australian newspaper, it was reported that Sydney is on the cusp of a luxury store boom that has not been seen since the Olympic Games in 2000. In the same article, Tiffany & Co said they were interested in opening a second store somewhere in Sydney.^

*http://www.cbre.com.au/NR/rdonlyres/...nAustralia.pdf
^http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225830767077
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 07:49 AM   #33
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Personally I find some of the luxury stores/brands thoroughly depressing, populated by people either with severe status anxiety, divorced/power females, 3rd world dictators and their offspring etc with far too much money to spend.

Designer glasses with big Chanel/Gucci logos and LV brown chocolate bags..... yuk yuk yuk! So tasteless and bling with too much fake tan and gold. Being conspicuous about wealth can be so naff at times. No class.

I like the architecture of some of the stores though. The Omotosando and Ginza in Tokyo arguably have some of the best designer store archictecture anywhere. The Hermes store in Ginza and Tods in Omotosando are both remarkable buildings.
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:33 AM   #34
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The Italian and French brands are nice, but not Gucci/Chanel I believe.

The people do not wear the luxury brands in those streets.
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What a load of fudge.

Sydney has more top international retailers (23%) than Melbourne (21.4%),* and it certainly has more high end fashion houses and jewellers. It has, in fact, been Melbourne that has been playing catch up in the high end sector with the opening of the luxury precinct at Chadstone, the upgrading of Collins Street boutiques, the upgrading of David Jones Melbourne City and the upgrading of Crown Casino. The only two things that Melbourne has a clear advantage in with shopping is its precincts are more attractive and it has benefited from better marketing.

Where is Louis Vuitton opening its Australian flagship? Not in Melbourne but in Sydney.^ The George Street flagship store will be one of only a handful of maison, full line stores around the globe, up there with the very best LV stores in Paris, NYC, London and Hong Kong. Opens early 2011

Where will Australia's largest Burberry flagship store be? Not in Melbourne but in Sydney. The new George Street flagship store will also be one of the largest Burbery stores in the Asia/Pacific region and will offer the full line of Burberry products.^ Opens mid/late 2010

The new Westfield Sydney will be the best upmarket shopping centre in Australia, with 6 floors and 250 stores. Harvey Nichols (though unlikely) has been invited to open a store in the new centre, with Gucci confirmed to open its new Australian flagship store and Prada, Ermenegildo Zegna, Miu Miu and Dior also rumoured. In total, over 40 new luxury brands will open in Westfield Sydney, the largest number under one roof in Australia. Opens in stages between 2010 and 2012

Barangaroo will also have a large shopping precinct and it will be capable of hosting a number of high end stores. Harvey Nichols has also been tossed around as a potential tenant there too.

Then we have the brand names that will move in and take over from the old LV, Burberry, Gucci, Prada etc stores as they relocate to bigger and more impressive stores.

In a recent article by The Australian newspaper, it was reported that Sydney is on the cusp of a luxury store boom that has not been seen since the Olympic Games in 2000. In the same article, Tiffany & Co said they were interested in opening a second store somewhere in Sydney.^

*http://www.cbre.com.au/NR/rdonlyres/...nAustralia.pdf
^http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225830767077
For starters, a lot of what you said is "in 2012, in 2011, in 2010", rah rah rah. Secondly, there is more to high-end fashion than the well known international brands such as Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Gucci, Prada, Fendi, Dior etc. You're totally overlooking Australian fashion houses which Melbourne has far more than Sydney. Above all, Melbourne is known for its sophisticated style, and all round trendiness, Sydney is not. Go make a thread about this in the OzScrapers section with a poll, I think you might be surprised.

Also, have you ever been to Melbourne? Do you even own high-end clothing/jewellery?
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I imagine the luxuary stores are not important for Australia.
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For starters, a lot of what you said is "in 2012, in 2011, in 2010", rah rah rah. Secondly, there is more to high-end fashion than the well known international brands such as Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Gucci, Prada, Fendi, Dior etc. You're totally overlooking Australian fashion houses which Melbourne has far more than Sydney. Above all, Melbourne is known for its sophisticated style, and all round trendiness, Sydney is not. Go make a thread about this in the OzScrapers section with a poll, I think you might be surprised.

Also, have you ever been to Melbourne? Do you even own high-end clothing/jewellery?
I know this will seem trivial to those that aren't from OZ and I am sorry that we have changed the direct of this thread (brief I promise)

Okay if you want a comparison of what both cities have now, here it is...

32 of Australia's top designer brands

= Sydney has more
= Melbourne has more

Akira - Melb 1, Syd 2
Alannah Hill - Melb 5, Syd 4
Alex Perry - Melb 0, Syd 1
Anthea Crawford - Melb 2, Syd 2
Anthony Squires - Melb 1, Syd 1
Arthur Galan - Melb 9, Syd 4
Bettina Liano - Melb 4, Syd 3
Bianca Spender - Melb 0, Syd 1
Calibre - Melb 5, Syd 5
Carla Zampatti - Melb 3, Syd 5
Collette Dinnigan - Melb 1, Syd 1
Fleur Wood - Melb 1, Syd 3
George Gross and Harry Whp - Melb 1, Syd 1
Gorman - Melb 7, Syd 3
Herringbone - Melb 2, Syd 7
Jayson Brundson - Melb 1, Syd 2
Leona Edmiston - Melb 4, Syd 6
Lisa Ho - Melb 3, Syd 4

Little Joe by Gail Elliott - Melb 3, Syd 2
Marcs - Melb 7, Syd 12
Metalicus - Melb 6, Syd 4
Nicola Finetti - Melb 0, Syd 1
Oxford - Melb 11, Syd 18
Pierucci - Melb 2, Syd 2
Rhodes and Beckett - Melb 5, Syd 3
Saba - Melb 8, Syd 10
Sass and Bide - Melb 5, Syd 3
Satch - Melb 10, Syd 3
Scanlan and Theodore - Melb 3, Syd 2
Wayne Cooper - Melb 3, Syd 2
Willow - Melb 2, Syd 1

Zimmermann - Melb 5, Syd 5

Sydney leads that count 13-12
Sydney also has more stores for the 32 brands mentioned above (123 - 120)

And if you want to factor in higher end chain stores I'm confident Sydney has more of them too...

International Designer Brands

= Sydney has more
= Melbourne has more

Bally - Melb 2, Syd 5
Boss - Melb 5, Syd 5
Bulgari - Melb 1, Syd 1
Burberry - Melb 3, Syd 5
Canali - Melb 1, Syd 2
Cartier - Melb 1, Syd 1
Chanel - Melb 2, Syd 2
Chloe - Melb 1, Syd 0
Coach - Melb 2, Syd 1
Dior - Melb 1, Syd 2
Emporio Armani - Melb 1, Syd 2
Ermenegildo Zegna - Melb 1, Syd 1
Escada - Melb 1, Syd 1
Fendi - Melb 1, Syd 2
Georg Jensen - Melb 3, Syd 4
Giorgio Armani - Melb 1, Syd 1
Gucci - Melb 2, Syd 2
Hermes - Melb 1, Syd 1
Hugo Boss - Melb 1, Syd 2
Jimmy Choo - Melb 1, Syd 1
Louis Vuitton - Melb 3, Syd 3
Marc Jacobs - Melb 1, Syd 0
Max and Co - Melb 2, Syd 4
MaxMara - Melb 3, Syd 2
Miu Miu - Melb 2, Syd 0

Montblanc - Melb 2, Syd 2
Omega - Melb 1, Syd 2
Polo Ralph Lauren - Melb 3, Syd 5

Prada - Melb 3, Syd 2
Salvatore Ferragamo - Melb 2, Syd 5
Tiffany and Co - Melb 2, Syd 1
Tod's - Melb 1, Syd 0
Versace - Melb 1, Syd 0


Sydney leads that count 12-9
Sydney also has more stores for the 33 brands mentioned above (67 - 58)

And this tally of international brands includes the as yet unopened stores by Versace (Crown Casino), Prada (Chadstone) and Miu Miu (Chadstone) as well as department store boutiques in both cities.

For this, I would say that Sydney has better high end shopping. The facts presented above clearly reflect this.

Melbourne excels in one off boutiques, multi label boutiques and discount outlets (ie. Bridge Road, Waterfront City, DFOs etc). Like I said, Melbourne also has done a better job at marketing itself as the better shopping city. Sydney has the better high end stores, more chain stores and more department stores. That, to me, makes the ultimate decision on which city is better for shopping too hard to call.

And to answer your questions, yes I have been to Melbourne (twice). No, I do not own any of the above mentioned labels but what does that prove?
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I imagine the luxuary stores are not important for Australia.
In the scheme of things, no they are not as important for Australians as they are overseas
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Gucci stores in London: 9 Royal Exchange, 18 Sloane Street, 32-33 Old Bond Street...umm.
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