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Old November 16th, 2010, 09:20 PM   #41
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You can reverse that ofcourse. Why do american train horns have to be so loud. Do they have to compensate for something?
Not all American horns are loud , there are a variety of horns.....i like K5LA and Nathan P5......Regional Rail , HSR , Amtrak , Subways and Light Rail are required to have horns. They rarely use them on the subway unless someone has there head or body over the yellow line.......Light Rail only uses them at very busy Ped crossings. Amtrak and Regional rail use them when approaching a station although not all the time , we use the bell for that.....mostly at Crossings....there done in patterns.... The Horn is mostly used to warn Pedestrians or scare animals , some majority cities have quiet zones , banning horns. Trains of all kinds have to blow horns when entering a worker zone for safety reasons.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 12:39 AM   #42
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Wow. Even a thread about horns turns into a vs. America.
You're acting like this thread didn't start out as a vs. Europe.

And I prefer horns to be used the way they should be: Only fully blown in emergencies, and used in short, sharp blips for any other purpose. I never understood the American idea of laying on the horn for 20 years before each level crossing or station.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:12 AM   #43
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how do you respond when someone kicks you in the groins? in kind
If you want to see pathetic, watch Europeans try to move freight by rail....
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:31 AM   #44
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You're acting like this thread didn't start out as a vs. Europe.

And I prefer horns to be used the way they should be: Only fully blown in emergencies, and used in short, sharp blips for any other purpose. I never understood the American idea of laying on the horn for 20 years before each level crossing or station.
Wow. I didn't know the HORN on a train was such a sensitive subject.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 04:43 AM   #45
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I don't understand how it is at all america vs. europe, you guys act as if america is the only place that has large, loud trains, basically everywhere BUT europe and japan use heavy and loud trains.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:18 AM   #46
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If you want to see pathetic, watch Europeans try to move freight by rail....
Or Americans moving local freight by ship...
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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:19 AM   #47
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I don't understand how it is at all america vs. europe, you guys act as if america is the only place that has large, loud trains, basically everywhere BUT europe and japan use heavy and loud trains.
That doesn't mean that "heavy and loud trains" are a good thing... Maybe Europe and Japan are very different. (Like not needing heavy and loud trains...)
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:36 AM   #48
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Wow. I didn't know the HORN on a train was such a sensitive subject.
It isn't.
This thread has been pretty lame since post #1 where someone did a US/Europe comparison complaining that European train horns (for crying out loud) somehow weren't "loud enough".
It just managed to get even lamer when people like you started complaining that people were turning it into a US/Europe comparison, conveniently overlooking the fact that it was precisely that right from the start.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 11:33 AM   #49
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In America, it has been said before, there are many level crossings without protection and barriers. In Europe (at least western europe) these do not exists: in our systems cars are always blocked when a train is approaching.

In many places also the level crossings are being replaced by tunnels and bridges

Finally europe is often pretty crowded, already residents are not particularly happy to have trains passing by, they would be even less so if trains went around honking like ships leaving the port all the time

Hence there is not much need for big horns breaking our balls
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Old November 17th, 2010, 11:37 AM   #50
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This entire thread is a joke. Seriously, who even cares about how loud a train's horn is?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 12:56 PM   #51
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Jay obviously, who seems to start thread after thread in a patronising tone that implies American railways are better then european ones, after which point it quickly becomes apparent that he doesn't really know much about it either way.

For example, European trains are flimsy and not crashworthy. European train horns are pathetic. American locomotives are heavier than european trains. etc etc nonsense nonsense.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:44 PM   #52
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I agree with you makita09. Whats funny is that he states he lives in Spain.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:50 PM   #53
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In America, it has been said before, there are many level crossings without protection and barriers. In Europe (at least western europe) these do not exists: in our systems cars are always blocked when a train is approaching.

In many places also the level crossings are being replaced by tunnels and bridges

Finally europe is often pretty crowded, already residents are not particularly happy to have trains passing by, they would be even less so if trains went around honking like ships leaving the port all the time

Hence there is not much need for big horns breaking our balls
Not true , many crossings have gates , only rural crossings on lightly used lines have no gates. Most have lights , only a few have stop signs......there grade separating alot of lines around here due to traffic issues and trains have to reduce speed when going over them.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:39 PM   #54
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On the other hand, in some other types of transportation we see a completely different story.


Europe

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Old November 17th, 2010, 11:06 PM   #56
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Jay obviously, who seems to start thread after thread in a patronising tone that implies American railways are better then european ones, after which point it quickly becomes apparent that he doesn't really know much about it either way.

For example, European trains are flimsy and not crashworthy. European train horns are pathetic. American locomotives are heavier than european trains. etc etc nonsense nonsense.

Jeez talk about being overly sensitive, I never said Europe had bad trains, I just think that American horns sound cooler.

And I'm a European American myself, I just admire America's trains, that doesn't mean I don't like Europes.

People take this thread waaaay too seriously
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Old November 18th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #57
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Here's some of my American hornage videos , most of the time i wave and they blow there horn for me....

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National Train day Horn ----This guy deserves a raise....

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You have an extraordinery hobby!

Did you consider the possibility that these train drivers use the horn as a warning because you are too close to the rails?
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I love the sound of a Class 91 horn!...

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You have an extraordinery hobby!

Did you consider the possibility that these train drivers use the horn as a warning because you are too close to the rails?
No its called Rail Fanning / Train spotting and its very popular around the world......no i'm behind the yellow line , a simple wave and most engineers just give some horn....most are into the hobby themselves...
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