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Old May 14th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #421
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I don't like Yokohama Tower, it's a monster, IMO you can say it's imposing but beautiful is an adjetive that doesn't fit with that tower.
Abeno Harukas it's not that surprising at the moment but is looking better as it grows and it's more elegant.
There is something can not be denied, this is by no means one the best works that Pelli has made.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 04:04 AM   #422
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The 62 number is including the rooftop structure.


You can see it from the following 2 pictures.

The observatory starts on floor 58 with the Plaza, that is the floor with the trees. Floor 59 is a between floor and floor 60 is the 360° view observation deck. Above the deck you see in picture of the model that the facade goes up for 2 more floors, and that there's also a rooftop structure with the Helicopter deck on top of it. The last part is indeed not higher then 10m, but it has the height of 2 somewhat lower floors.





The last picture is from the official website:
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I think one reason why Japan doesn't have much multi-storey supertalls due to its vulnerability to earthquakes.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 12:56 PM   #423
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It's a combination of that and because a lot of companies in Japan apparently only build buildings for themselves, and not for 2-3 companies. Which is quite an interesting idea. It certainly must be a lot easy to have just the one company in a building.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 01:07 PM   #424
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all you guys mentioned, and the fact that japanese most of all builds economically. You don't see much of crazy structures in tokyo. All neat, effective boxes. That's also the reason why they don't build extremely hight. Because it is simply more effective to build more lower buildings than one much more expensive supertall. Supertalls are more about prestige than efficiency.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #425
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Height isn't really an issue anymore when it comes to earthquakes. The Taipei 101 is also standing on top of an active vault. But it does make extravagant designs more difficult, it's one of the reasons why you see mostly straightforward buildings in Japan.

Here's my standard list of reasons why there aren't many supertalls in Japan.

- Airport related height restrictions. (The main business areas in Tokyo and Osaka both have a height restriction around 200m)
- Economic situation (slow growth for 20 years now)
- Seismic conditions (the techniques to make tall buildings safe for a reasonable price are less then 20 years old)
- Business preferences
- There's no need for Japan to put itself on the world map through tall buildings. It might even have a negative impact because many people wrongly think that tall buildings are unsafe during earthquakes.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #426
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Old May 17th, 2012, 11:00 AM   #427
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Looking great already . Not long before seeing this one topped out.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 05:42 AM   #428
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Old May 18th, 2012, 04:42 PM   #429
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Great colors! I'm starting to like this one more and more. Simply an amazing building on the way to be the tallest in Japan.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 06:12 PM   #430
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Wow, I didn't knew this one was so far already.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 10:42 PM   #431
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awesome progress
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Old May 19th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #432
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Wow, I didn't knew this one was so far already.
I didnt know about this one at all.

But DAMN, this is one very ugly design.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 02:03 AM   #433
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But DAMN, this is one very ugly design.
Hm?
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Old May 20th, 2012, 02:10 AM   #434
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I just stated my opinion about this towers design. And in my opinion it is ugly.
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Old May 20th, 2012, 09:43 AM   #435
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The tower is not yet complete, so you can't judge it yet. Unless your opinion is based on the render's sketches, but actually it's difficult to call that ugly from that perspective . But yeah, tastes differ sometimes in real uncanny way.
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This one looks good it has decent cladding and it doesn't look like a Christmas tree either.
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The tower is not yet complete, so you can't judge it yet. Unless your opinion is based on the render's sketches, but actually it's difficult to call that ugly from that perspective . But yeah, tastes differ sometimes in real uncanny way.
I was judging it by the renders on page 1 and the construction pics.

The massings makes it a hulk of a building, the tall and massive base doesnt integrate it well into its surrounding. Furthermore, the different claddings make it look unbalanced and somewhat generic. Everything is topped by the weird diagonal beams here and there, the weirdly patterend top section and the cut out rectangle on the top, with another cladding style.
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The design follows the different functions of the building, that makes it stand out from true generic multi functional buildings that have a single look that doesn't show what's behind the curtain wall.
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I was judging it by the renders on page 1 and the construction pics.

The massings makes it a hulk of a building, the tall and massive base doesnt integrate it well into its surrounding. Furthermore, the different claddings make it look unbalanced and somewhat generic. Everything is topped by the weird diagonal beams here and there, the weirdly patterend top section and the cut out rectangle on the top, with another cladding style.
It defininitively have the rough kind of look. But I kind of like it. It's maybe not so pleasant to look at but it have this certain japanese thing to it. I for one would never want it to have uniform blue or even worse reflective (juck ) cladding. Other interesting thing that makes this building (or at least it's construction) interesting is that it is the first supertall for japan. And one that certainly deserves the title. I first followed it only for the last mentioned reason (the japanese construction differs from what we see in different parts of the world - the early stages of construction were especially interesting) but now I like it more and more. Look after japanese cbd's pictures you will notice this tower blends nicely in the japanese culture of skyscrapers and you maybe start appreciate it
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