Federal Politics (Part 1) - Page 392

Samuel77 · April 4th, 2012, 07:59 AM

the only reason liberals would change leaders is if liberals took a serious nose dive in the polls. Hard to see that happening from here. They are riding high at the moment so they would be fools to change leaders.

redbaron_012 · April 4th, 2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullswool

I don't believe in there being a God. But if I did, Citystyle is him :O

If there is a God he better have a very good excuse !

redbaron_012 · April 4th, 2012, 12:15 PM

Doesn't help when the average cretin thinks decriminalisation will mean skag will become available from every 7/11 and the streets will be filled with the living dead.

Well. At least you prove that to be true.

Kelli · April 6th, 2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ross_the_man

A Turnbull run Liberal Party would be a landslide victory.. I can't see them giving Abbott the boot though tbh which is a real shame.

Especially if they put him in at the last minute, before anyone got much of a chance to see any of the flaws emerge.

redbaron_012 · April 7th, 2012, 02:37 AM

One of the biggest turn off's of Labor isn't about personality it's about policy. A majority of population doesn't want a Carbon Tax. If Malcolm Turnbull was Liberal leader he believes the same crap......so what would be the point in that ?
I don't know why so many people are so vocal about Tony Abbott ? He is just an opposition leader. He has no power in running the country. The Government with independants and Greens can pass and have passed any legislation they want.
I remember a number of Opposition leaders everyone thought wouldn't do a good job leading a Government yet ened up having long term Government.....People like Kennett and Howard. Yes anyone who is one eyed Labor couldn't see they did a good job but just compare their time to the present Government...couldn't be worse.
I expect Liberal-Coalition to win the next federal election...see what they do then as in a democracy, Kick them out next time if they are no good.
I have voted everything over the years and feel the same right now.....We have to have a change of Government before the country is wrecked beyond repair.

manrush · April 7th, 2012, 02:46 AM

Evidence that Australia is heading down the route to an economic depression?

Minnesota Twin · April 7th, 2012, 06:36 AM

[QUOTE=Bullswool;90106478]Maybe closer to the election. We still have a while to go now. I'm sure the disapproval with Abbott is in the back of many Liberal party minds.[/Q

The only people who like/agree with Turnbull are Green/Labor supporters who are not going to vote for him or his party anyway. Turnbull had his chance as leader and the TPP was about Labor 60, Coalition 40. Conservative voters made up much of the 60%. Polls quickly swung the other way once Abbott was installed. They have remained high- about 57-43 TPP and this will continue until the rout that will come at the next election You can say what you like about the Coalition but only a fool would vote Labor/ Green at the next election. What a corrupt and incompetent rabble this government is!

Kelli · April 7th, 2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by manrush

Evidence that Australia is heading down the route to an economic depression?

Other forms of despair maybe.

BartBart · April 7th, 2012, 01:57 PM

[QUOTE=Minnesota Twin;90197780]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullswool

Maybe closer to the election. We still have a while to go now. I'm sure the disapproval with Abbott is in the back of many Liberal party minds.[/Q

The only people who like/agree with Turnbull are Green/Labor supporters who are not going to vote for him or his party anyway. Turnbull had his chance as leader and the TPP was about Labor 60, Coalition 40. Conservative voters made up much of the 60%. Polls quickly swung the other way once Abbott was installed. They have remained high- about 57-43 TPP and this will continue until the rout that will come at the next election You can say what you like about the Coalition but only a fool would vote Labor/ Green at the next election. What a corrupt and incompetent rabble this government is!

The party % might have swung, but Abbott's approval is worse than Gillard's. And that is saying something.

Levathian · April 7th, 2012, 11:18 PM

It has emerged that Tony Abbott's sister is a lesbian. Yet another high profile homophobe, like Katter and Cardinal Pell, with a gay/lesbian person in the family.

manrush · April 8th, 2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Levathian

It has emerged that Tony Abbott's sister is a lesbian. Yet another high profile homophobe, like Katter and Cardinal Pell, with a gay/lesbian person in the family.

Perhaps it's time for Tony to become a hypocrite and support his sister 100%.

redbaron_012 · April 8th, 2012, 08:43 AM

I don't think Abbott is a homophobe and probably accepts his sisters lesbian relationship it's just that he doesn't accept Gay marriage and I think many Gay people think that way as well.........Personally I don't care.

hornetfig · April 8th, 2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by redbaron_012

I think many Gay people think that way as well.........Personally I don't care.

Nobody is going to be glad they're beign discriminated against. Your point is really that for "many" gay people it's not a big issue, or an issue they are interested in, or a vote swinging issue. I don't know that that is true.

metro_minotaur · April 8th, 2012, 10:30 AM

Interesting

Danubis · April 8th, 2012, 10:34 AM

don't care. too many gays. too too many.

redbaron_012 · April 8th, 2012, 01:00 PM

too many Gays ? There are only enough Gay people that the world wants...........all are just as good as anyone else. Individuals who love or who want to be loved.....just like anyone else.

Danubis · April 9th, 2012, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbaron_012

too many Gays ? There are only enough Gay people that the world wants...........all are just as good as anyone else. Individuals who love or who want to be loved.....just like anyone else.

keep your socialist rants to yourself please.

BartBart · April 9th, 2012, 08:33 AM

I had to

at Abbott trying to pretend he is politically centrist.

"She's more politically centrist than I am but she's no bleeding heart lefty either."

MelbourneOnTheRise · April 9th, 2012, 10:09 AM

Abbott is about as far from the centre as Ayatollah Khomeini. That's the danger of choosing a leader too far to the extreme and the reason Abbott alienates so many millions of people to the left of George Pell.

redbaron_012 · April 9th, 2012, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelbourneOnTheRise

Abbott is about as far from the centre as Ayatollah Khomeini. That's the danger of choosing a leader too far to the extreme and the reason Abbott alienates so many millions of people to the left of George Pell.

I am constantly amazed by the literal accuracy of your posts. You should be a journalist for the Age...or are you already ?

View Poll Results: Who will you be voting for in the 2010 Federal Election?
Labor	59	33.91%
Liberal	47	27.01%
Nationals	2	1.15%
Greens	53	30.46%
Family First	3	1.72%
Katter's Australian Party	0	0%
Independent (Other)	10	5.75%
Informal (Donkey) Vote	0	0%
Voters: 174. You may not vote on this poll

April 4th, 2012, 12:15 PM	#7823
redbaron_012 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 6,052 Likes (Received): 117	Doesn't help when the average cretin thinks decriminalisation will mean skag will become available from every 7/11 and the streets will be filled with the living dead. Well. At least you prove that to be true. __________________ "Make no small plans, for they have not power to stir the blood" - Daniel H. Burnham

April 7th, 2012, 02:37 AM	#7825
redbaron_012 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 6,052 Likes (Received): 117	One of the biggest turn off's of Labor isn't about personality it's about policy. A majority of population doesn't want a Carbon Tax. If Malcolm Turnbull was Liberal leader he believes the same crap......so what would be the point in that ? I don't know why so many people are so vocal about Tony Abbott ? He is just an opposition leader. He has no power in running the country. The Government with independants and Greens can pass and have passed any legislation they want. I remember a number of Opposition leaders everyone thought wouldn't do a good job leading a Government yet ened up having long term Government.....People like Kennett and Howard. Yes anyone who is one eyed Labor couldn't see they did a good job but just compare their time to the present Government...couldn't be worse. I expect Liberal-Coalition to win the next federal election...see what they do then as in a democracy, Kick them out next time if they are no good. I have voted everything over the years and feel the same right now.....We have to have a change of Government before the country is wrecked beyond repair. __________________ "Make no small plans, for they have not power to stir the blood" - Daniel H. Burnham

April 7th, 2012, 02:46 AM	#7826
manrush world socialist citizen Join Date: May 2008 Location: Urban New England Posts: 4,100 Likes (Received): 352	Evidence that Australia is heading down the route to an economic depression? __________________ My Flickr account My DeviantArt account My (rarely, if ever, used) Photobucket account My Eyes for Boston, Visions of a Harbour: Boston “If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” - Malcolm X “Action comes from keeping the heat on. No politician can sit on a hot issue if you make it hot enough.” - Saul Alinsky

April 7th, 2012, 06:36 AM	#7827
Minnesota Twin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 546 Likes (Received): 0	[QUOTE=Bullswool;90106478]Maybe closer to the election. We still have a while to go now. I'm sure the disapproval with Abbott is in the back of many Liberal party minds.[/Q The only people who like/agree with Turnbull are Green/Labor supporters who are not going to vote for him or his party anyway. Turnbull had his chance as leader and the TPP was about Labor 60, Coalition 40. Conservative voters made up much of the 60%. Polls quickly swung the other way once Abbott was installed. They have remained high- about 57-43 TPP and this will continue until the rout that will come at the next election You can say what you like about the Coalition but only a fool would vote Labor/ Green at the next election. What a corrupt and incompetent rabble this government is! __________________ The proof of the Christian God is the impossibility of the contrary

April 4th, 2012, 07:59 AM	#7821
Samuel77 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: omnipresent Posts: 1,327 Likes (Received): 185	the only reason liberals would change leaders is if liberals took a serious nose dive in the polls. Hard to see that happening from here. They are riding high at the moment so they would be fools to change leaders.

April 7th, 2012, 11:18 PM	#7830
Levathian Not returning. Ever. Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 874 Likes (Received): 326	It has emerged that Tony Abbott's sister is a lesbian. Yet another high profile homophobe, like Katter and Cardinal Pell, with a gay/lesbian person in the family.

April 8th, 2012, 08:43 AM	#7832
redbaron_012 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 6,052 Likes (Received): 117	I don't think Abbott is a homophobe and probably accepts his sisters lesbian relationship it's just that he doesn't accept Gay marriage and I think many Gay people think that way as well.........Personally I don't care. __________________ "Make no small plans, for they have not power to stir the blood" - Daniel H. Burnham

April 8th, 2012, 10:30 AM	#7834
metro_minotaur Registered Noob. Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 700 Likes (Received): 0	Interesting

April 8th, 2012, 10:34 AM	#7835
Danubis Charlatan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide Posts: 3,420 Likes (Received): 500	don't care. too many gays. too too many. __________________ be different G.A.G.M.A

April 8th, 2012, 01:00 PM	#7836
redbaron_012 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 6,052 Likes (Received): 117	too many Gays ? There are only enough Gay people that the world wants...........all are just as good as anyone else. Individuals who love or who want to be loved.....just like anyone else. __________________ "Make no small plans, for they have not power to stir the blood" - Daniel H. Burnham

April 9th, 2012, 08:33 AM	#7838
BartBart In the sweetspot Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8,601 Likes (Received): 122	I had to at Abbott trying to pretend he is politically centrist. "She's more politically centrist than I am but she's no bleeding heart lefty either." __________________ He who rejects change is the architect of decay. The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery. Harold Wilson

April 9th, 2012, 10:09 AM	#7839
MelbourneOnTheRise Needs of the Many>Few Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,252 Likes (Received): 118	Abbott is about as far from the centre as Ayatollah Khomeini. That's the danger of choosing a leader too far to the extreme and the reason Abbott alienates so many millions of people to the left of George Pell. __________________ https://twitter.com/GeoffSlattery/st.../photo/1/large

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