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Old April 10th, 2009, 08:29 AM   #41
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I've heard of plans for a sort of above-ground light rail system in Moscow; I don't know the name but it's the system where there is a rail above the train to which the train hangs onto. Any news on it?
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Old May 26th, 2009, 02:59 AM   #42
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Some trolleybuses like the ZIU/TrolZA seems to be purpose built, but are others based on diesel bus bodies ? Who is the electric equipment supplier ? There are ZIU 682 and 683 trolleybuses still at work in Córdoba, Argentina; others in Mendoza and Rosario were phased out.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 01:02 AM   #43
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I don't understand. In Poland and everywhere in the world Russians are known that they build mass production realible and simple machines. In Moscow I see xx difrent types of trams, trolleys and buses. Without any sense and any scheme. Why?
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Old May 28th, 2009, 04:56 PM   #44
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Probably because Russia is not about being grey, boring and like everything else anymore. All kinds of russian and foreign companies have access to the market.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 09:33 PM   #45
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I've heard of plans for a sort of above-ground light rail system in Moscow; I don't know the name but it's the system where there is a rail above the train to which the train hangs onto. Any news on it?
You mean a suspension railway like in Wuppertal for example?
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Old June 7th, 2009, 12:03 AM   #46
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Just an elevated rapid tram
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Old June 7th, 2009, 02:52 PM   #47
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Just an elevated rapid tram
Like it is planned in Piter?
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Old June 7th, 2009, 03:42 PM   #48
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Some tram photos from Moscow:





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Old June 8th, 2009, 08:48 AM   #49
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A bit of my favourite marshrutka's if you don' mind.

'K, marshrutka (маршрутка) derives from the word "marsh'root" (route), literally it's a taxi with a route. It is a minivan which in most cases follows bus routes but can also have original route, analog of New York dollar van. Usually marshrutka is several roubles more expensive than a bus. Up-to-date the most common fair is 25 roubles (75 cents). Within Moscow the price is constant, but if marshrutka is heading towards outskirts or satellite city, it becomes higher (usually two times). It has no certain stops so you have to cry 'Stop here u sonuvabitch!' at the top of your voice so that the driver (who's russian is usually quite poor) stops at the place you need.

Modern (private) Moscow marshrutka appeared in 90's. They were RAF-2203 (Latvian-made). This horrible box:

In 1995 such marshrutka costed 1000 roubles - it was before 1998 denomination, so 1 rouble in current prices.

In late 90's marshrutka lines were ovetaken by russian made Gazelle. By reason of Gazelles' absolute dominance on the routes, many people started calling all marshrutka's "gazelka" (with diminutival suffix). At first they were mostly white or grey. Like this one:


Or this one:


Later, they became more colorful due to commercial:


In early 2000's GaZ carried out restyling of Gazelle. New marshrutkas got roundish headlights, new seats, and became a bit more comfortable and mostly yellow.


Soon Gazelle monopoly was destroyed by Ford. Transit model was introduced in mid 2000's and is quite popular due to its comfort and safety.


Mercedes 208 is popular on Moscow-suburbs lines and among small (regarding to Moscow) regional transport companies.


Many Moscow's satellite cities have there own transport companies, but nevertheless both inner Moscow and suburban transportation is dominated by one company called simply Autoline (Автолайн). Their emblem on the hood:


All marshrutkas are equipped with TV which shows mostly commercial and some funny stuff from time to time.


Marshrutka drivers usually look like this:


Or this (this pic is from Yemen frankly, but almost no difference):


Or this:


Marshrutka is the most deadly transport in Russia. The most horrible accidents usually involve marshurtkas.




But marshrutkas have their own humor anyways.

Leaflets say: "A stop somewhere over here will be somewhere over there!", "The driver is not an octopus, he can't give cashback to everybody at once", "Book of complaints is in the next car"...


"Only kids up to 7 kilogramms, Matrix agents (with ID), Nobel Prize winners, Nobel Prize winners' lovers, Tom Cruise are allowed to ride free."


"Drunk, dirty and stinky are not allowed"

And this one is from Ivano-Frankovsk, western Ukraine. The ugly old man in the middle says 'Remember! Swearing turns you into moskal!" (the way ukrainians call the russians):


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Old June 19th, 2009, 04:37 AM   #50
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Trams in Moscow.

Ул. Панфилова:



Ост. "Сумской проезд":



Около памятника героям ВОВ, г. Коломна:

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Old June 21st, 2009, 04:53 AM   #51
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How people are killed from riding or driving marshrutkas(if there is a number)?
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Old June 29th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #52
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German second-hand Mercedes-Benz O-303 intercity buses?
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German second-hand Mercedes-Benz O-303 intercity buses?
Yes, there are many of them around Moscow connecting Moscow and neighbourhood towns. You know there is Moscow city and there is Moscow Region around the city. They are two different regions. 'Mostransavto' (you can see their logo on the sides of the buses) is the transport company of Moscow Region. They often buy second-hand buses.

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Old July 4th, 2009, 12:58 AM   #55
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German second-hand Mercedes-Benz O-303 intercity buses?
These particular O 303s are secondhand from Israel and have Israeli-made bodies. There are also several examples in Mostransavto's photo gallery - for instance, one with a Haargaz body.

A good website for buses in the former USSR is Autobus Transport, with dozens of new photos posted every day.
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These particular O 303s are secondhand from Israel and have Israeli-made bodies. There are also several examples in Mostransavto's photo gallery - for instance, one with a Haargaz body.

A good website for buses in the former USSR is Autobus Transport, with dozens of new photos posted every day.

Hum, very interesting.

So, the Russian second-hand O-303 would be ex-Egged, the largest bus company in Israel?
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So, the Russian second-hand O-303 would be ex-Egged, the largest bus company in Israel?
I don't know, but the photos Urban Legend posted have Egged copyright notices, suggesting that they come from a feature about what happens to Egged buses after they're withdrawn. And did you notice that the buses in the first and fourth pictures still had destination blinds in Hebrew?
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Yes, I saw the destinations in Hebrew. So, maybe these buses are ex-Egged or another bus company of Israel...
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Old July 5th, 2009, 02:01 AM   #59
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New buses:

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Moscow got 140 of them accordign to upper.metromost.com
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Old July 5th, 2009, 02:38 AM   #60
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Yes, there are many of them around Moscow connecting Moscow and neighbourhood towns. You know there is Moscow city and there is Moscow Region around the city. They are two different regions. 'Mostransavto' (you can see their logo on the sides of the buses) is the transport company of Moscow Region. They often buy second-hand buses.
Afaik, Mostransavto have Scania OmniLinks in their park
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