Waterways & your city in picture.

[JamesWales]

I can't explain his bitterness. I think when he came to Cardiff he must have got turned away by almost every girl he met..and knowing this great city as I do, that really is some achievement!

Anyway, I'm glad I'm unlikely to meet him in a pub any time soon. Puts me off going to London to be honest.

[El_Greco]

Originally Posted by JamesWales

I can't explain his bitterness. I think when he came to Cardiff he must have got turned away by almost every girl he met..and knowing this great city as I do, that really is some achievement!

Im not into Welsh women Im afraid.

Anyway, I'm glad I'm unlikely to meet him in a pub any time soon.

I dont frequent pubs, they stink and have awful decor.

[JamesWales]

Originally Posted by El_Greco

Im not into Welsh women Im afraid.



I dont frequent pubs, they stink and have awful decor.

Ha, well 25% of the women in Cardiff aren't Welsh, so you may still have some that match your standards.

[Erebus555]

El Greco's gone off the scale on my pretentious-o-meter! Jinkies!

[cardiff]

"But I mentioned it only once and that was in my own picture thread about the city. Just as I said youre a liar."

I believe you use this page http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...05807&page=180 to show how much better Vilnius is, Liar hey, guess thats you!



What? You said - 'actually its the only real part of theeity center'. What is that supposed to mean? That city centre consists only of The Old Town (which shits all over Cardiff btw )? City centre consists of many parts, which I dont feel the need to mention again. Theyve got everything there from shopping to entertainment. If you dont believe me google.

Exactly, the city center does not include the modern developments you think are much better than British development, hence they are worse because they are sterile areas with nothing in the night time.




Doesnt change the fact its a box.

To you its a box, to others who have good taste its more than that.



And how many people see it from these angles?

Would you like me to post the unbiquitous, and now quite famous view of the water tower and Millennium center set in the square? I think we have all seen that image too many times!

The country is full of this type of buildings (you know plasticy cheapo stuff), and 5 stars dont change the fact its a cheapo, boring, plasticy piece of crap. Those pictures prove it. They also prove that you have absolutely no taste.

I think it proves the reverse, that you have no taste!



You think? So you not sure?

Well if you actually ready his post, and his origional one then you could work it out for yourself (maybe), i dont like to speak for other people

Im not jealous I live in London. I like London. And Britain. I dont like Cardiff.

Doesnt bother me if you dont like Cardiff, i doubt if you would like it if it was a clone of London (is this your new city to showcase, oh wait its in the UK!).

Because you cant, deep down you know Im right.

yawn



It was you that brought up tower blocks and Vilnius in post #208, fool!
As for Vilnius its been restoring The Old Town, developing New City Centre, expanding and building all kinds of stuff.

I didnt bring tower blocks up, that was you looking at a very run down post comunist area of Vilnus and interpreting it as 'tower blocks'. Your list sounds exactly like Cardiff, Liverpool, portsmouth etc etc.

Stop lying boy, I never said they were better. However I was mightily impressed by Dusseldorfs and Duisburgs harbour developments. Dunkirk was crap, though and Poznan was a bit of a dissapointment, but better than Cardiff.

Maybe you should have reached the end of my sentance and seen the question mark, it was a question. YOU SHOULD READ WHAT PEOPLE SAY, YOU HAVE SHOW A NUMBER OF TIMES IN ONE POST THIS INABILITY!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL



You dont make any sense my son. Yes, Dunkirk is in France and its a bit shit.

Yes that went over your head didnt it, lots of things must do that (..."my son"....???????? who are you Darth Vader or a sex pest?)

Yes, it means that you lost the argument.

Yes...... it means your a child, and judging by other comments id say you have lost the PLOT. Maybe you have just lost contact with normal people, maybe why you cant get a woman? Is that why you are so irational? I guess so

[Accura4Matalan]

IMO tyhens ennd is better than the scottish parliamtne t

[Erebus555]

Good point, well made.

[El_Greco]

Originally Posted by cardiff

I believe you use this page http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...05807&page=180 to show how much better Vilnius is, Liar hey, guess thats you!

Er your nursery buddy Greenwich brought it up first. Find me a post of mine where I bang on about Vilnius. You cant because there isnt one. Yet you said that Ive been comparing Vilnius to British cities for ever now. Clearly thats a lie and therefore youre a liar. Congratulations!

Exactly, the city center does not include the modern developments you think are much better than British development, hence they are worse because they are sterile areas with nothing in the night time.

Vilnius isnt a industrial city it doesnt have dockside developments so what you just said is rubbish. I was talking about dockside developments in the UK being shit (with some exceptions). I never said new stuff in Vilnius is better. Thats another lie.

City Centre consists of many areas - The Old Town which is the oldest part of the city is packed full of classy eating, drinking and shopping places. Šnipiškės which is home to New City Centre (skyscrapers) has a Baroque church, 19thC town houses, modern architecture, a museum, bars, restaurants and shopping. Its full of people day and night. Hardly sterile. Užupis a bohemian area full of interesting stuff and located just outside city walls. The Menagerie, The New Town (which is 19thC Art Nouveau area, does Cardiff has any Art Nouveau?) and Antakalnis are also packed full of history, eating, drinking and what not places. You just poved how ignorant you are! Congratulations!

To you its a box, to others who have good taste its more than that.

You dont have taste, I mean to you a streetscene with old, dilapidated railway viaducts and cheap plasticy tower blocks is a 'best present streetscape'.

Would you like me to post the unbiquitous, and now quite famous view of the water tower and Millennium center set in the square? I think we have all seen that image too many times!

Famous in Wales?

I think it proves the reverse, that you have no taste!

Im not the one thinking a streetscene with old, dilapidated railway viaducts and cheap plasticy tower blocks is a 'best present streetscape' or that Gunwharf Quays is a masterpiece.

Tasteless, tasteless

Doesnt bother me if you dont like Cardiff

Of course it does!

yawn

Crapdiff

I didnt bring tower blocks up, that was you looking at a very run down post comunist area of Vilnus and interpreting it as 'tower blocks'. Your list sounds exactly like Cardiff, Liverpool, portsmouth etc etc.

Yes you did in post #211 -

I braught up Vilnus because he holds it with such high regard to modern development. My pictures are not to show some horrible city but the blander side of developments that sit next to the more highly architectured buildings. He simply chooses to ignor the best parts of British development to focus on the blander side of things, which he cant accept happens everywhere, even Vilnius. Vilnus may be better in some regard than Portsmouth (its old museum of a city center), but not in others (Vilnius is still very run down in areas close to the center and not forgetting the commie club architecture).

I never mentioned tower blocks or Vilnius. You are lying again.

Maybe you should have reached the end of my sentance and seen the question mark, it was a question. YOU SHOULD READ WHAT PEOPLE SAY, YOU HAVE SHOW A NUMBER OF TIMES IN ONE POST THIS INABILITY!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL

Are you alright? You sound like youre losing it!

Yes it was a question. You asked
- 'You have seen these cities and think they are all better than their counterparts int he UK?'
My answer was
- 'Stop lying boy, I never said they were better. However I was mightily impressed by Dusseldorfs and Duisburgs harbour developments. Dunkirk was crap, though and Poznan was a bit of a dissapointment, but better than Cardiff.'

Ive seen all those cities yes, never claimed them being better.

Liar.

(..."my son"....???????? who are you Darth Vader or a sex pest?)

Im middle aged, bold and overweight, you decide which one I am

Yes...... it means your a child, and judging by other comments id say you have lost the PLOT. Maybe you have just lost contact with normal people, maybe why you cant get a woman? Is that why you are so irational? I guess so

Yes I can get women and do. Anyway this is such a boring and old 'insult' its unreal. Are you really that boring and unsophisticated? Come on try again!

[El_Greco]

Originally Posted by JamesWales

Ha, well 25% of the women in Cardiff aren't Welsh, so you may still have some that match your standards.

Any educated ones that speak english? Thought not!

Originally Posted by Erebus555

El Greco's gone off the scale on my pretentious-o-meter! Jinkies!

My Birmingham pictures are still great though!

[cardiff]

Er your nursery buddy Greenwich brought it up first. Find me a post of mine where I bang on about Vilnius. You cant because there isnt one. Yet you said that Ive been comparing Vilnius to British cities for ever now. Clearly thats a lie and therefore youre a liar. Congratulations!

I did bring up not only the post but the page where you banged on about it, again you have failed to read...yet again... what i said, i never said you have been comparing British cities with Vilnius forever, i said it was your latest city to compare to British cities...maybe you need a bit more on this.....as in your latest city in a long line of other cities that you have been comparing.


Vilnius isnt a industrial city it doesnt have dockside developments so what you just said is rubbish. I was talking about dockside developments in the UK being shit (with some exceptions). I never said new stuff in Vilnius is better. Thats another lie.

No but you said british cities have a lot to learn from European cities, Vilnius included

City Centre consists of many areas

No, city center is city center, Cardiff bay isnt Cardiff city center.

Congratulations!



You dont have taste, I mean to you a streetscene with old, dilapidated railway viaducts and cheap plasticy tower blocks is a 'best present streetscape'.

No a street with a well proportioned colourful tower, a local comuter train crossing historic viaduct only visable at this point from the city streetscape (ie this is litterally the only point your average person can actaually see the railway viaducts, and that photo encompasses the whole view of them) gives a vibrant urban streetscape. Its not the loop in Chicago (which is far more opressive from my experiance) but it adds a similar buzz to this particular street and photo.

Famous in Wales?

Well as famous as the BBC projects Torchwood and doctor who, which from this webisite i have found is as far as north america and further. So yes, more famous than your average European city.

Gunwharf Quays is a masterpiece.

Gunwharf is a masterpiece for Portsmouth. And the spinaker tower a masterpiece in Europe.

Tasteless, tasteless

Back at you


Yes you did in post #211 -

I braught up Vilnus because he holds it with such high regard to modern development. My pictures are not to show some horrible city but the blander side of developments that sit next to the more highly architectured buildings. He simply chooses to ignor the best parts of British development to focus on the blander side of things, which he cant accept happens everywhere, even Vilnius. Vilnus may be better in some regard than Portsmouth (its old museum of a city center), but not in others (Vilnius is still very run down in areas close to the center and not forgetting the commie club architecture).

I never mentioned tower blocks or Vilnius. You are lying again.

From my quote above you might be able to read that i said commie club architecture, not tower blocks, tower blocks came from you. Perhaps you should take the time to think over this, and htink who the liar is.



Are you alright? You sound like youre losing it!

I was actually apealing to your logical side which from your last post i wont bother doing anymore.

Yes it was a question. You asked
- 'You have seen these cities and think they are all better than their counterparts int he UK?'
My answer was
- 'Stop lying boy, I never said they were better. However I was mightily impressed by Dusseldorfs and Duisburgs harbour developments. Dunkirk was crap, though and Poznan was a bit of a dissapointment, but better than Cardiff.'

Ive seen all those cities yes, never claimed them being better.

So you never answered my question, instead you called me a liar even though i havent actually said that you think they are better, i just asked you if you did.

Liar.

Think on.

Im middle aged, bold and overweight, you decide which one I am

sex pest! explains the no luck with the ladies as well LOL!

boring and unsophisticated?

sounds like you here!

[El_Greco]

Originally Posted by cardiff

I did bring up not only the post but the page where you banged on about it, again you have failed to read...yet again... what i said, i never said you have been comparing British cities with Vilnius forever, i said it was your latest city to compare to British cities...maybe you need a bit more on this.....as in your latest city in a long line of other cities that you have been comparing.

I mentioned Vilnius only because your buddy brought it up you fool. I didnt bang on about it. Unless you call one line a banging on! Nor did I compare it with British cities. I mean Im not the one that brought it up!

No but you said british cities have a lot to learn from European cities, Vilnius included

Yes they do and yes they do from Vilnius, see the reconstruction of a medieval palace.

No, city center is city center, Cardiff bay isnt Cardiff city center.

Yes, The Old Town, Šnipiškės, Užupis, The Menagerie, The New Town, Antakalnis make up the City Centre. Just like City, Westminster and many more areas make up Londons city centre.

I never said The Bay is city centre. More inventions. More lies.

No a street with a well proportioned colourful tower, a local comuter train crossing historic viaduct only visable at this point from the city streetscape (ie this is litterally the only point your average person can actaually see the railway viaducts, and that photo encompasses the whole view of them) gives a vibrant urban streetscape. Its not the loop in Chicago (which is far more opressive from my experiance) but it adds a similar buzz to this particular street and photo.

Well proportioned cheap, plasticy tower block, crappy train and crumbling, dilapidated viaduct. Im sure most people would find that view ugly. No taste whatsoever!

Well as famous as the BBC projects Torchwood and doctor who, which from this webisite i have found is as far as north america and further. So yes, more famous than your average European city.

I bet most of them think thats London.

Gunwharf is a masterpiece for Portsmouth. And the spinaker tower a masterpiece in Europe.

Tasteless, tasteless

From my quote above you might be able to read that i said commie club architecture, not tower blocks, tower blocks came from you. Perhaps you should take the time to think over this, and htink who the liar is.

Quit wriggling, you clearly implied tower blocks.

I was actually apealing to your logical side which from your last post i wont bother doing anymore.

I dont use lols, or lols in capital letters, I leave that to little tastless kids like you.

So you never answered my question, instead you called me a liar even though i havent actually said that you think they are better, i just asked you if you did.

More wriggling.

Think on.

Ignorant liar.

sex pest! explains the no luck with the ladies as well LOL!

I said try and be more clever and interesting, ladies joke, insult, whatever you wanna call it is old and boring.

sounds like you here!

Im not the one thinking a streetscene with old, dilapidated railway viaducts and cheap plasticy tower blocks is a 'best present streetscape' or that Gunwharf Quays is a masterpiece. Moreover I dont go to pubs, watch footy or eat in nasty chips shops.

[cardiff]

I mentioned Vilnius only because your buddy brought it up you fool. I didnt bang on about it. Unless you call one line a banging on! Nor did I compare it with British cities. I mean Im not the one that brought it up!

I have never really heared of him so hes not my buddy, to bring it back to the point after your little ramble above, you accept that i didnt say you compare Vilnius with all British cities but that it was your most recent city being used for a comparison?

see the reconstruction of a medieval palace.

You mean a place that has not existed for 300 years? That is merely a pastich in every sense. rahter than buildings something modern and bold they have just rebuilt something that means absolutely nothing. Im sure it will look nice though, like the thousands of other minor palaces around europe. And you lecture me on bold modern architecture, heres where Vilnius could have learnt from Cardiff and Edinburgh.


Westminster and many more areas make up Londons city centre.

And here is the London comparisons, if you think you can accurately define Londons city cente go ahead, would you include kensington? what about south of the river?

I never said The Bay is city centre. More inventions. More lies.

here it comes again.......swoooooosh......over your head. The reference that Vilnius modern area forms part of the city center is every bit as fragile as Cardiff bay being part of Cardiff city center.

Im sure most people would find that view ugly.

I think most people see it for what it is, my explination of it.

I bet most of them think thats London.

Well seeing remarks on flickr and actually seeing the tourists stood on that step you might be surprised.



Tasteless



you clearly implied tower blocks.

No, i didnt, tower blocks are a non entity for me as we dont really have them in Cardiff. Bad streetscapes of unffinished concrete blocks, with no greenery is what i was implying, tower or not. nd you side stepped m point that alongside bold and inovate architecture stands the more mundane buildings, Europe and UK. Also notice that i made no attempt to show Vilnius as a complete wasteland (recognised by forumers quite liking the photos i posted) something you coud mature into when describing British cities.



I leave that to little tastless kids like you.

And we leave childish remarkks like 'you have lost (....I 'win' you)',calling names and irrational childish behaviour to you

Ignorant liar.

oh proved my point above havent you



I said try and be more clever and interesting, ladies joke, insult, whatever you wanna call it is old and boring.


Serve you right for using demeaning language like 'son'.

Im not the one thinking a streetscene with old, dilapidated railway viaducts and cheap plasticy tower blocks is a 'best present streetscape' or that Gunwharf Quays is a masterpiece. Moreover I dont go to pubs, watch footy or eat in nasty chips shops.

So you dont go out then? must be a lonely existance cooped up in your little world

[Nathan Dawz]

To add my 2 pence, I'd actually say I'm quite impressed by how far Cardiff has come in recent years.

It didn't really have much going for it not that long ago, but the new shopping centre, the regeneration of Cardiff Bay, the Millennium Centre, the Senedd, etc. have all made it look more like a modern, successful city.

Full marks to Cardiff for its redevelopment I'd say.

[Karldiff]

Originally Posted by Nathan Dawz

To add my 2 pence, I'd actually say I'm quite impressed by how far Cardiff has come in recent years.

It didn't really have much going for it not that long ago, but the new shopping centre, the regeneration of Cardiff Bay, the Millennium Centre, the Senedd, etc. have all made it look more like a modern, successful city.

Full marks to Cardiff for its redevelopment I'd say.

Well it did have two fantastic castles and a very nice civic centre, a great city centre park and a superb city centre stadium but I take your point that it has improved in recent years.

Perhaps it might be useful to summarise the last few pages of posts as thus -

El Greco - Cardiff (the City) is crap

Cardiff (the poster) - oh no it isn't

and leave it at that? I find the endless quoting and re-quoting really tedious and I'm sure others do. What about pictures of waterways, hmmm?

[El_Greco]

Originally Posted by cardiff

I have never really heared of him so hes not my buddy, to bring it back to the point after your little ramble above, you accept that i didnt say you compare Vilnius with all British cities but that it was your most recent city being used for a comparison?

Can you get one simple thing into your thick skull? I never used Vilnius for a comparison.

And hes your buddy, because just like him, you brought up Vilnius in a rather childish and pathetic way.

I never mentioned Vilnius. End of. Liar.

You mean a place that has not existed for 300 years? That is merely a pastich in every sense. rahter than buildings something modern and bold they have just rebuilt something that means absolutely nothing.

It was demolished during Russian occupation, if you are not thick (youre) you will understand why it was rebuilt.

Oh and it was demolished in 1801. Reconstruction started in 2002. Do the math if you can. Once again you show your ignorance. Seriously just stop talking about stuff you dont know.

And you lecture me on bold modern architecture, heres where Vilnius could have learnt from Cardiff and Edinburgh.

Except Vilnius does have bold modern architecture.

And here is the London comparisons, if you think you can accurately define Londons city cente go ahead, would you include kensington? what about south of the river?

You dont even know London and yet you talk about Vilnius. Just what kind of ignorant idiot are you?

Heres central London -

here it comes again.......swoooooosh......over your head. The reference that Vilnius modern area forms part of the city center is every bit as fragile as Cardiff bay being part of Cardiff city center.

No its not. Its part of city centre, and besides even if we exclude New City Centre central Vilnius still does not lack modern stuff.

I think most people see it for what it is, my explination of it.

Excatly - an ugly place, you tasteless, tasteless ignoramus.....

Well seeing remarks on flickr and actually seeing the tourists stood on that step you might be surprised.

No, Im not surprised at all by the fact most people think its London.

No, i didnt, tower blocks are a non entity for me as we dont really have them in Cardiff. Bad streetscapes of unffinished concrete blocks, with no greenery is what i was implying, tower or not. nd you side stepped m point that alongside bold and inovate architecture stands the more mundane buildings, Europe and UK. Also notice that i made no attempt to show Vilnius as a complete wasteland (recognised by forumers quite liking the photos i posted) something you coud mature into when describing British cities.

You posted this picture and in the next post you said 'commie club architecture' -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaliukas/145739661/

Are you saying you meant this kind of architecture?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ry...ma_theater.jpg

No, you meant tower blocks, quit wriggling.

And we leave childish remarkks like 'you have lost (....I 'win' you)',calling names and irrational childish behaviour to you

Thats rather ironic -

Maybe these vilnus developments are better? lol

http://www.flickr.com/photos/faj/3187340134/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/anderson_live/2586668187/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnas/2072535480/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/visualmind/995418335/

You just like your nursery buddy Greenwich brought up Vilnius in a childish way. Therefore youre the child on here.

oh proved my point above havent you

Yes I proved numerous times that you are an ignorant liar.

Serve you right for using demeaning language like 'son'.

But Im not offended, but bored.

So you dont go out then? must be a lonely existance cooped up in your little world

So pubs, chips shops are the only places where you can go for a day out? Oh you poor unsophisticated, ignorant provincial!

I visit museums, I go to lectures given by top historians and archaeologists, I go to cool bars and restaurants, I go exploring the city, I travel etc etc.

[ill tonkso]

Ignoring your constant argument against cardiff, because there is clearly no sanity in you.
I pretty much agree with what you have defined as Central London though I would probably include Regents Park and Camden Town.

[El_Greco]

Originally Posted by ill tonkso

Ignoring your constant argument against cardiff, because there is clearly no sanity in you.

Because I think Gunwharf Quays is shite?

I pretty much agree with what you have defined as Central London though I would probably include Regents Park and Camden Town.

You could include Regents Park, but certainly not Camden Town.

[ill tonkso]

Why not Camden Town? It is essentially an extension of the West End but with Music rather than Shows.

[ill tonkso]

Not my city but some of London.

Camden Lock




Little Venice, somewhere I can imagine living one day.






Kew Rail Bridge, I love the Thames this far west in London where it becomes narrower.


Richmond Riverside, I love this development.

[TownPlanningNE]

image hosted on flickr


http://www.flickr.com/photos/2409618...16512/sizes/l/