Ten York | Proposed | 65 st | 224 m | South Core - Page 11

AndrewJM3D · December 19th, 2011, 05:16 AM

I don't think they made ICE shorter, it looks to scale with everything else. The question is did they exaggerate the height of 10 York? It is 10 floors taller though with a larger podium and fins. If approved at 240m, it would be the third tallest behind Trump Tower and Aura.

large · December 19th, 2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

I don't think they made ICE shorter, it looks to scale with everything else. The question is did they exaggerate the height of 10 York? It is 10 floors taller though with a larger podium and fins. If approved at 240m, it would be the third tallest behind Trump Tower and Aura.

I agree, ICE still looks to tower over the other buildings. The model must be exagerated, or they are going for another 20-30 metres in height.

Dino Domingo · December 20th, 2011, 06:46 AM

I think all those buildings are starting to blend now. It would be really great to have a design that pops like the types you see in Chicago. Sigh...

neilio · December 21st, 2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by large

I agree, ICE still looks to tower over the other buildings. The model must be exagerated, or they are going for another 20-30 metres in height.

What are you people talking about... the model is exactly to scale, please go to the SSP diagrams to get an idea of the big difference a mere 15m-16m can make, this model is based on a 249m proposal...not 240 and ice is the size it should be.

Ramako · December 21st, 2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dino Domingo

I think all those buildings are starting to blend now. It would be really great to have a design that pops like the types you see in Chicago. Sigh...

Chicago has plenty of bland cookie-cutter condos that blend together. Some of theirs make City Place designs look cutting edge.

***Taller, Better*** · December 21st, 2011, 02:18 AM

Chicago and New York have huge amounts of bland cookie cutter buildings, but apparently people in Toronto only "see" them when they are thinking about Toronto.

Dino Domingo · December 21st, 2011, 06:06 AM

Obviously I'm not talking about the bland buildings. I'm talking about the the more recent developments and proposals they've put out. Buildings that are cylindrical, buildings with more colour, buildings with spires. Chicago and New York are known for their distinctive architecture.

***Taller, Better*** · December 21st, 2011, 06:35 AM

Yeah, there are some amazing buildings in Chicago and New York; both are known for their architecture. Some stunning ones, actually. Chicago and New York are economically and politically hugely powerful megacities, with lots of wealthy major head offices. Like it or not (and none of us like it)... Toronto is not at the same level yet. But, the point is, there is also a ton of bland boxes in both of those cities, too... it is far from all good like most people seem to imagine.

large · December 22nd, 2011, 05:27 AM

I think the lesson is that we need at least a few really amazing towers, of world class design, to draw attention away from the cookie cutter condos...they will just become background noise if we do that, and add to the sense of drama of a visually stunning tower. I think it's time Toronto made its presence felt on the world stage architecturally speaking, it might not be New York or Chicago, but it is becoming a global city due to the expansion etc.

***Taller, Better*** · December 22nd, 2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by large

I think the lesson is that we need at least a few really amazing towers, of world class design, to draw attention away from the cookie cutter condos...they will just become background noise if we do that, and add to the sense of drama of a visually stunning tower. I think it's time Toronto made its presence felt on the world stage architecturally speaking, it might not be New York or Chicago, but it is becoming a global city due to the expansion etc.

+1 I think that sums it up nicely!

Dino Domingo · December 23rd, 2011, 07:29 AM

Yes, that sums it up well. I'm just saying we need more stand-outs. More incredible towers and not just variations of the same building.

isaidso · December 23rd, 2011, 07:36 AM

AURA and One Bloor might come close to being those show stoppers many of us wait patiently for. Maybe they'll both fall a little short of that standard, and the wait will go on. Who knows?

oceanmdx · December 23rd, 2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by large

I think the lesson is that we need at least a few really amazing towers, of world class design, to draw attention away from the cookie cutter condos...they will just become background noise if we do that, and add to the sense of drama of a visually stunning tower. I think it's time Toronto made its presence felt on the world stage architecturally speaking, it might not be New York or Chicago, but it is becoming a global city due to the expansion etc.

Exactly right.. a few great buildings could make all the difference.

Northern Lotus · December 23rd, 2011, 08:01 PM

With all the talk of Toronto condo market bubble busting, I wonder if this and other proposed projects will be built. Hopefully they all will.

***Taller, Better*** · December 23rd, 2011, 08:04 PM

The newspapers are all jumping on the bandwagon to predict a bursting of the bubble. I don't think any of them want to be accused of not foreseeing it, if and when it happens.
There could be a cause and effect from the media reports.

Fastwalking · December 24th, 2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Taller, Better

The newspapers are all jumping on the bandwagon to predict a bursting of the bubble. I don't think any of them want to be accused of not foreseeing it, if and when it happens.
There could be a cause and effect from the media reports.

They call it a "self-fulfilling prophesy" and I agree with you compoletely. In fact sometimes i think the media is so void of both conscience and stories they won't be happy until they do cause it.

Mollywood · December 24th, 2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by isaidso

AURA and One Bloor might come close to being those show stoppers many of us wait patiently for. Maybe they'll both fall a little short of that standard, and the wait will go on. Who knows?

Don't forget the L tower. Those 3 towers (1 Bloor, Aura & L) will reshape our skyline and hopefully, just be the start of more great buildings to come. All of the best new towers are going along Yonge Street. I can't even imagine how that street will feel in 5 years. It will be a whole different environment.

Dino Domingo · December 24th, 2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by isaidso

AURA and One Bloor might come close to being those show stoppers many of us wait patiently for. Maybe they'll both fall a little short of that standard, and the wait will go on. Who knows?

Let's hope they don't fall short. It's bad enough when developers cheap out on their promises and end up building towers that are nothing like what they promised. I'm still upset about losing the boot in L Tower.

kuquito · December 26th, 2011, 09:38 PM

almost great!

casanova · April 5th, 2012, 05:30 AM

There's been some design modifications that were revealed at the public consultation. Looks much better now

December 19th, 2011, 05:16 AM	#201
AndrewJM3D Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,013 Likes (Received): 14	I don't think they made ICE shorter, it looks to scale with everything else. The question is did they exaggerate the height of 10 York? It is 10 floors taller though with a larger podium and fins. If approved at 240m, it would be the third tallest behind Trump Tower and Aura. __________________ Rob Ford October 8th 2010- ‘I will assure you that services will not be cut, guaranteed’

December 21st, 2011, 02:18 AM	#206
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,742 Likes (Received): 276	Chicago and New York have huge amounts of bland cookie cutter buildings, but apparently people in Toronto only "see" them when they are thinking about Toronto. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

December 21st, 2011, 06:35 AM	#208
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,742 Likes (Received): 276	Yeah, there are some amazing buildings in Chicago and New York; both are known for their architecture. Some stunning ones, actually. Chicago and New York are economically and politically hugely powerful megacities, with lots of wealthy major head offices. Like it or not (and none of us like it)... Toronto is not at the same level yet. But, the point is, there is also a ton of bland boxes in both of those cities, too... it is far from all good like most people seem to imagine. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

December 23rd, 2011, 07:36 AM	#212
isaidso the new republic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The United Provinces of America Posts: 18,539 Likes (Received): 296	AURA and One Bloor might come close to being those show stoppers many of us wait patiently for. Maybe they'll both fall a little short of that standard, and the wait will go on. Who knows? __________________ World's 1st Baseball Game: June 4th, 1838, Beachville, Ontario, Canada North America's Oldest Pro Football Teams: Toronto Argonauts (1873) and Hamilton Tiger Cats (1869) I started my first photo thread documenting a recent trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Have a peek: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=724898

December 23rd, 2011, 08:04 PM	#215
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,742 Likes (Received): 276	The newspapers are all jumping on the bandwagon to predict a bursting of the bubble. I don't think any of them want to be accused of not foreseeing it, if and when it happens. There could be a cause and effect from the media reports. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

December 20th, 2011, 06:46 AM	#203
Dino Domingo Canadiense Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The T-Dot Posts: 1,267 Likes (Received): 0	I think all those buildings are starting to blend now. It would be really great to have a design that pops like the types you see in Chicago. Sigh...

December 21st, 2011, 06:06 AM	#207
Dino Domingo Canadiense Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The T-Dot Posts: 1,267 Likes (Received): 0	Obviously I'm not talking about the bland buildings. I'm talking about the the more recent developments and proposals they've put out. Buildings that are cylindrical, buildings with more colour, buildings with spires. Chicago and New York are known for their distinctive architecture.

December 22nd, 2011, 05:27 AM	#209
large Large Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 783 Likes (Received): 3	I think the lesson is that we need at least a few really amazing towers, of world class design, to draw attention away from the cookie cutter condos...they will just become background noise if we do that, and add to the sense of drama of a visually stunning tower. I think it's time Toronto made its presence felt on the world stage architecturally speaking, it might not be New York or Chicago, but it is becoming a global city due to the expansion etc.

December 23rd, 2011, 07:29 AM	#211
Dino Domingo Canadiense Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The T-Dot Posts: 1,267 Likes (Received): 0	Yes, that sums it up well. I'm just saying we need more stand-outs. More incredible towers and not just variations of the same building.

December 23rd, 2011, 08:01 PM	#214
Northern Lotus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 358 Likes (Received): 3	With all the talk of Toronto condo market bubble busting, I wonder if this and other proposed projects will be built. Hopefully they all will.

December 26th, 2011, 09:38 PM	#219
kuquito BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto/ Paraiso de Cartago Posts: 11,265 Likes (Received): 1	almost great!

April 5th, 2012, 05:30 AM	#220
casanova Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 88 Likes (Received): 0	There's been some design modifications that were revealed at the public consultation. Looks much better now

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