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Old December 24th, 2015, 08:00 PM   #101
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Thanks buddy, I don't speak as an American tourist, but as a citizen of the world. I've spent more of my life living in Europe than the US. You're just a naive, brainwashed liberal fool to think you can shit on your culture and past without repercussions in the future. You think in 50 years people will look at this and think "Wow, stacking that ugly crystalline structure on top of that beautiful building was a good idea"
Hell no, contemporary western europe is so progressive, they've become incredibly short sighted in their decision making, and don't realize how embracing internationalism is going to ruin the culture of their countries and cities for the rest of history. Antwerp is full of crappy buildings to tear down, or places to put an amazing new building without shitting on their old architecture. So why ruin a gem? I'm not saying to preserve your town amber, but act responsibly and preserve your historic buildings in stead of desecrating them, like Copenhagen, Stockholm, Vienna, and pretty much any city outside the Netherlands/Belgium does well in Europe. But even Amsterdam accomplishes this.

Also, I think US culture is fine and dandy, it's the politics we have to work on. Again, your naive, clearly unfounded statements show your ignorance, and how little you truly understand the world. The US is doing great preserving, and perpetuating our culture.
you say really stupide things... Men always build new things and destroy others, even in Europe. I give you just one example: here a symbol of what was one time a mix between old and new: https://www.google.be/search?q=cath%...YWz_QgGuzIM%3A
so many conservative people have said "You're just a naive, brainwashed liberal fool to think you can shit on your culture and past without repercussions in the future". In 2000, in 1800, in 1500, in 0,... always the same.
Obviously we have to save a maximum of our past jewels, it's a shame that a lot of time we don't. But add new architecture without destroying the old is not a crime, especially when the "old building" is in fact only 100 years old.
you don't like the modern part of this project, ok, but that's all, it's just a matter of taste, not of civlization decadence as you say.
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Old December 24th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #102
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This is an aereal view of the Mezquita in Cordoba, Spain. It's a catholic church build in 1523 in the middle of a mosque dating from 848. Is it a crime to the original building? Yes it is. But if the mosque had not been made part of the church, it probably would have been destroyed because it no longer had a function. Now it is UNESCO World Heritage.
The 'beautiful' building in Antwerp is in itself a (not completely thrue) 20th century copy of a mediavel building which was destroyed by fire. It served as a firehouse (so the interior was not like the original at all). Since for this century it was no longer up to standards as a firehouse, it run out of function. In itself, it was to small to house the harbour-administration so there was a choice, elaborate on the existing building or destroy it and put something bigger in it's place.
There was an international architectural contest and believe me, what's build today is by far the most interesting design and maybe even the most respectful to the old building.
I do'nt know what people will think of it in 50 or 100 years from now, maybe they make it UNESCO World Heritage
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Old December 24th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #103
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Old December 25th, 2015, 03:58 AM   #104
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I don't know why the age of the physical building matters? in 100 years it'll barely matter if it's the original building or not. Fine, it's a reconstruction that doesn't work well at all with the ugly duckling plopped on top and that's it. We have the same thing in the US, old buildings descrated by new ones. The fact is there's ample space next to this to build something new and edgy, whilst preserving this beautiful reconstruction. So why wasn't that pursued instead? i'll tell you why, because Hadid was commissioned to design this and no one had the nerve to tell her it's a bad design, perhaps because everyone trusted her design was good due to her past success. Also, the above comparison clearly is irrelevant because youre talking about building around something historical with similar material and similar design. With this we're talking about gutting a building, and constructing something completely architecturally removed from it, on top, with no cohesion whatsoever. It's an insult to the historic building it's built on.

Anywho, I finish with this. What do we think today of buildings that were demolished in the 60s, in favor of modern architecture? The 60s today are known as the worst decade in architectural history for the lack of respect we showed for architecture back then. This building is no better.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 01:07 PM   #105
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Old February 25th, 2016, 06:40 PM   #106
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...but..WHAT IS THIS!!??
I feel bad for Hadid..
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Old March 13th, 2016, 10:31 PM   #107
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Projektseite des Port of Antwerp / construction site

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A great project.


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Old March 15th, 2016, 06:29 PM   #108
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I had high expectations, especially when they finished the concrete pillar. But unfortunately when you see the cladding it looks cheap. Like some kind of knockoff. A shame. For me it really breaks the spell it had. But I guess Antwerp will be glad to have a new icon representing it's recent harbor side booming building activities.
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 11:18 PM   #109
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 11:42 PM   #110
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Official inauguration was today, this weekend people can visit it for the first (and last) time
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 03:10 AM   #111
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Oh my God. USS Entreprise crashed into a building in Antwert.......are there more victims than architectura , beauty and good taste?????
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 03:31 AM   #112
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Old October 27th, 2016, 04:31 PM   #113
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Old October 27th, 2016, 10:34 PM   #114
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Old October 29th, 2016, 10:18 PM   #115
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This is such an amazing building. Well done.
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Old October 30th, 2016, 10:05 PM   #116
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This building is so weird!
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