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Old June 19th, 2010, 06:42 PM   #201
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This bid could end up being real competition for England & Russia.

I've got a feeling the 2018 FIFA WC may end up on the Iberian coast!
You forgot about the Benelux bid.
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Old June 19th, 2010, 06:45 PM   #202
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^

I don't see that bid doing to well.

Just like I don't see Qatar for 2022.
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Old June 19th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #203
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Benelux now is not considered eligible for Belgium division process (and their economical aspetcs...).....

2018 England or Russia (Russia is a new market so....), 2022 USA (have had been Australia, but they have only 21 milions inhabitants and they are too distant from Europe.... for ticketing selling...)
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Old June 19th, 2010, 08:14 PM   #204
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I still say that Portugal is dragging Spain down. Even if the bid proposes a decent venue plan geographically, the fact that Portugal only has 3 stadiums in 2 cities is just a joke.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 06:22 AM   #205
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Benelux now is not considered eligible for Belgium division process (and their economical aspetcs...).....

2018 England or Russia (Russia is a new market so....), 2022 USA (have had been Australia, but they have only 21 milions inhabitants and they are too distant from Europe.... for ticketing selling...)
Yeah but they are closer to Asia the worlds largest fan base!
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Old June 20th, 2010, 06:28 AM   #206
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I don't understand why Portugal is there. I thought joint bids were only for countries who couldn't host one by themselves? Spain definitely can! They've done it before!
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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:20 AM   #207
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Portugal is the one that cannot host themselves, so it's understandable. But to think that they can win by providing 3 venues in 2 cities is ridiculous.

It should have been, 5 Portuguese stadiums in 4-5 cities (With Lisbon's Estadio Nacional upgraded to 80,000 for the opening game). With Spain offering the remaining 7 (out of like the dozen on proposal), with Madrid hosting the final.

In an ideal world, of course, it'll never happen.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:37 AM   #208
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Benelux now is not considered eligible for Belgium division process (and their economical aspetcs...).....
And who told you that Belgium is going to split? And we are also not comparable to Greece or Italy. We may have a big public debt but our econmy is way bigger than that of those southeren european countries.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #209
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It looks like Spain wanted to try to overcome the fact that they hosted in '82 by branding it as a joint bid with Portugal, and giving them an absolute minimum in hosting duties.

That's certainly how it looks from the outside. I think FIFA will be far more sympathetic to Holland/Belgium's joint bid. It seems more honest. Neither can host by themselves and the bid is not lopsided, nor does it look like an attempt at rebranding a fairly recent world cup hosted by a single country.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:23 PM   #210
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My bets goes to England 2018 and Qatar 2022 (looking to the latest words from Blatter...I guess it was him...)
Qatar 2022? This would mark him as crazy!!!!!
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Old June 21st, 2010, 03:35 AM   #211
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I agree that the Iberian bid has no chance, being so lopsided. But from the Portuguese part, it couldn't be any different, considering Portugal only has those three +50k venues and it does not want to waste money in upgrading others beyond its already excessive capacity. It's a rational attitude.

I think Portugal should bid for another EURO in the future. It's a tournament at the country's level. One reason they won the 2004 edition was because they proposed more stadia than necessary (10 vs usual 8), so they can perfectly host a 24-team event with adequate renovations or even new venues (if economy helps at that moment).

I just smile at how some people think that it was Portugal who hopped onto the "Spanish train"... Spain accepted our joint-bid proposal because it knew it couldn't beat England alone on a head-to-head battle.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 03:50 AM   #212
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Qatar 2022? This would mark him as crazy!!!!!
Wait...he isn´t already?
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 06:58 AM   #213
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Blatter says a lot of things. If you honestly think FIFA will allow a WC to be played in Qatar, you're out of your mind.
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Blatter says a lot of things. If you honestly think FIFA will allow a WC to be played in Qatar, you're out of your mind.
Its even better than that.

Shortly after Blatter recommended Qatar (and the world media imploded), he actually came out with a ripper statement.....he said he recommends all bids when he visits them because its polite (or words to that effect).

Sure enough, do some googling and you can find articles quoting Blatter saying how awesome just about every bid is.

I tried looking for the article without luck, but don't you love FIFA
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 11:24 PM   #215
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I highly doubt if they get the tournament, that Spain would miss out the Costa del Sol completely.

Wonder how easy it is to add seats to La Rosaleda?
New stadium in Málaga.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 02:22 PM   #216
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Today´s menu in SA: Spain v Portugal.

It would be a great oportunity to boost our joint bid to use some ads before, during and after the match... but we know what should we expect from of our football federations...

In any case, if Spain doesn´t win the WC... Portugal is my second choice!
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Old June 29th, 2010, 04:00 PM   #217
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I see England as the great opponent, but I think they are too confident that they will win and sometimes that attitude can turn against your interests.
I would not underestimate the Iberian bid.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:59 PM   #218
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I see England as the great opponent, but I think they are too confident that they will win and sometimes that attitude can turn against your interests.
I would not underestimate the Iberian bid.
Nobody is confident about anything, this is a tight race.
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Old June 30th, 2010, 02:57 PM   #219
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Indeed it is
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Old July 1st, 2010, 05:26 AM   #220
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I don't see it going for Spain/Portugal.. I mean, this countries are powerfull football nations, have good infra-structure, and they do deserve it.. but when you compare with Russia and England, hmmm I don't see it..
first, why is portugal there with only 3 stadiums?!! that just shows no commitment from portugal's side - portugal only makes the bid weaker IMO - ok, spain has that excuse about having another country together kind of dissociating it from 82 but still..
Next it's exaclty about 82.. england has hold it 16 years before and russia has never.. so one more point against it.. Economy also goes against spain/portugal when compared with growing russia and england's huge power.. plus the fact that football is totally settled in spain/portugal while in Russia there are big population and markets to be explored plus the fact that it brings the WC to a new part of europe..
I may be really wrong (and I hope so), we never know what's going on under FIFA's table, but looks like england is the favourite, if not russia is getting it..
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