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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:16 PM   #21
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I hope that 2018 in Canada and in 2022 in China.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:45 PM   #22
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I hope that 2018 in Canada and in 2022 in China.
Canada would have A LOT of issues hosting. There's not a single stadium in the country that is even close to being capable of hosting a World Cup match. Every single stadium would have to be new or massively renovated. Even the major cities, Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa would need new stadiums and one of them would have to be at least 80,000. After the World Cup, what would the stadiums be used for? The capacities would be too large for the CFL. On top of that, there aren't a lot of major cities in Canada. Only 6 cities have populations over 1,000,000 and because it's such a large country, they'd probably have to use a pod system like has been proposed for the US, necessitating 12 host cities.

If I were in charge, England would host 2018, the US would host 2022, Spain/Portugal would host 2026 and Australia would host 2030.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 04:36 PM   #23
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What kind of portuguese are you?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 04:46 PM   #24
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Portugal had Euro 2004 not so long time ago... I don't think if you get this champs

104k Barca's stadium looks amazing!
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 05:05 PM   #25
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What kind of portuguese are you?
Actually there is quite a lot of opposition among Portuguese people according to what I read in their subforum. IMO it doesn't make too much sense since a joint bid with Spain is their only chance to host a WC and their level of investment in infraestructure will be pretty low. Even the distribution of the host cities (8:4) is favourable to their interests (we are 4.5:1 in population).

I understand more opposition from Spain, since bidding alone we already have many chances to host it (if not in 2018 for sure the next time the WC comes to Europe).
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 07:19 PM   #26
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Well Spain will need 6 or 8 cities. The ones that are sure to be picked are Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, Sevilla, Bilbao and Zaragoza. Then there is the posibility that two more cities will be chosen, here I think Gijon, Vigo, Coruña and Murcia are the likely ones since these clubs could have use for a 40000+ stadium.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 09:16 PM   #27
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IMO Alicante is too close to Valencia and their best club is too tiny to be a real contender.
Well, now Alicante and Hercules are in the second division, but Hercules has been in first division for years, and this year Hercules is doing a good work in Adelante League. Moreover, Alicante is the fourth populated province in Spain, and a high porcentaje of foreigners from England or Germany live in Alicante, in the Mundial '82, Alicante and Elche had a stadium for the championship.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 09:28 PM   #28
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As much as this bid sounds all very nice in principle, the lopsided nature of it just doesn't sit well with me. I feel that joint bids ideally should be 50-50 splits or not done at all.

Part of me also worries whether the number of European bids may actually help to take the tournament away from the continent altogether.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:40 AM   #29
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Part of me also worries whether the number of European bids may actually help to take the tournament away from the continent altogether.
my thoughts exactly, the fight between the European bids may well allow one of the other bids to win since the European votes will be split. i would've liked there to have just been one European bid the whole continent could've got behind to bring it to Europe.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:46 AM   #30
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What's the logic behind this bid exactly? We all know Spain could host alone, so why get Portugal involved, especially when it is such an imbalanced proposal?
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:52 AM   #31
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What kind of portuguese are you?
Many Portuguese and Spanish are against.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 06:06 AM   #32
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my thoughts exactly, the fight between the European bids may well allow one of the other bids to win since the European votes will be split. i would've liked there to have just been one European bid the whole continent could've got behind to bring it to Europe.
Alot of the voting is on a knockout basis though.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:34 PM   #33
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Alguém com a foto do viaduto do Cacém não podia dizer nada de jeito
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 04:06 PM   #34
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my thoughts exactly, the fight between the European bids may well allow one of the other bids to win since the European votes will be split. i would've liked there to have just been one European bid the whole continent could've got behind to bring it to Europe.
Not if they follow the same voting procedure they did in the past. After each round, the last one is eliminated, and the whole thing only comes to an end when one bid has reached more than 50% of the votes. So even if in the first round the pro-European votes are divided to 3 competitors, at a certain point they will concentrate on only one bid (only possible exception would be a heads-up between two European bids).

So there is no need to concentrate on only one bid in advance. Only nessesary thing is an agreement that after having lost their personal favorite, all European and pro-European voters will support annother European contestant.


I suppose that is more or less what MoreOrLess meant, too.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:59 PM   #35
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spain should go for it alone
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 09:58 PM   #36
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ANY news about the portugal/spain bid? Are the still in or have they pull out?? today was the last day to submit their proposals !
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 10:20 PM   #37
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Nobody ever thought about quitting, only some guys from SSC. Even today a FIFA spokesman said that joint bids will be considered.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 01:48 AM   #38
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Many Portuguese and Spanish are against.
Why? It would be good for the countries. Or not?
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 01:55 AM   #39
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Some Portuguese have that idea that the country will spend a lot of money again like they did for Euro 2004, although that's wrong. The Spanish think they could do it by themselves.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:26 PM   #40
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it's better if they go together, southamerica would support this option because it's better for them (many people from there living in spain and portugal)
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