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Old October 22nd, 2009, 02:42 PM   #81
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Portugal had an EURO, so why it couldn´t host a world cup? why not? it has new stadiums and I think they can build two or three more
Some of those stadiums are now sitting idle already. If Holland is too small to host one on its own already then it's obvious Portugal can't host one either.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:07 PM   #82
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:29 PM   #83
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Land size has nothing to do with it though. Population is what matters.

Belgium is the same size as Portugal, in that respect, and the Netherlands is larger.
Portugal is greater than Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg together). In the population doesn't, but if only the people that mattered, Spain has had. Spain is bigger than Germany but in population, Germany is much bigger.

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Well, but Portugal is too small to host a World Cup alone. I believe a joint with Spain is the only chance for Portugal.
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Portugal had an EURO, so why it couldn´t host a world cup? why not? it has new stadiums and I think they can build two or three more
Yes, the 10 stadiums built for the euro may be increased temporarily and without great cost, for an event like this. Missing 2 stadiums, fixed in the Jamor National Stadium and pick up another city for a new one.
But now isn't a good time for that. There are major projects (high speed train, the new Lisbon airport) and will spend much money.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 08:56 PM   #84
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Nobody says Spain can't host, but it certainly counts against them. I think they included 1st time hosts Portugal on the ticket to try and offset this.

Saying all this people on here get caught up in the stadium design issues when really, fifa politics will decide who gets the nod, not architectural details.

I don't think that will count in the EXCO decision.
Considering the bids,I think it might be a battle between this joint and England for one WC and between Russia and Australia or USA(but unlikely) for the other.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 09:13 PM   #85
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Where would Portugal get the money in its ongoing economic crisis that has affected this country since the early 2000s?
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 09:29 PM   #86
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So what? Germany hosted a WC after 32 years,why can't Spain host another after 36 or 40 years?
The issue is that every bid has to be considered in relation to what the other candidates are offering and represent; they cannot be seen in isolation. In this bidding process, two of their European rivals have never hosted a WC before, whilst the other won't have for over half a century if successful. In this respect, and all other things being equal, delegates might believe those bids are more deserving than the Spain/Portugal one . These 'emotional' factors often play a big part, as we saw in Copenhagen.

Personally, I think Russia has a really good chance of winning. As well as never having hosted a WC before, their bid seems good from a technical viewpoint and it is a rising power in European football with lots of investment pouring in. They could also present themselves as a kind of Eurasian bid, with some stadiums being only 3 hours behind/ahead of China and Western Europe, for example.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 10:45 PM   #87
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Everybody knows WC2018 will be hosted in England, not very difficult to guess.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 10:53 PM   #88
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Spain should have qualified alone, I too wonder why they preferred to go with Portugal... I wish luck to Spain in their bid.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 11:33 PM   #89
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Where would Portugal get the money in its ongoing economic crisis that has affected this country since the early 2000s?
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But now isn't a good time for that.

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I too wonder why they preferred to go with Portugal... I wish luck to Spain in their bid.
Because Portugal and Spain are two greater football nations, easier to fight England. This is the only interest of Spain for Portugal.
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Old October 29th, 2009, 10:22 PM   #92
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I highly doubt if they get the tournament, that Spain would miss out the Costa del Sol completely.

Wonder how easy it is to add seats to La Rosaleda?
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Old November 19th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #94
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I don't believe La Peineta is going to be chosen. Even if it's bigger than Alvalade, I don't believe Villar won't let Portugal have those two stadiums in Lisbon (and.... is La Peineta really going to be built? I mean... for which Olympics? 2012? 2016?...)
La Peineta is going to be built. it will be the new stadium of Atlético de Madrid and it's suposse to be finished by 2012/2013 footbal season. works begin by early 2010

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Old November 20th, 2009, 01:08 AM   #95
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Is that the best logo these two nations can come up with? ugly
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Old November 20th, 2009, 01:15 AM   #96
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i'm praying for we lose this contest
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Old November 20th, 2009, 01:41 AM   #97
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I would like this bid to win to strengthen relations between Spain and Portugal in matters like high speed trains like Madrid-Lisboa or Oporto-A Coruńa.

But I think Russia and England are very strong bids, and maybe to organize this football world cup would damage Madrid possibilitie's of an Olympic games.
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Is that the best logo these two nations can come up with? ugly
Have you seen the others?
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Old November 24th, 2009, 05:09 PM   #99
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My reasons for the no: The cream of Portuguese are against, all I talked about it don't want, most Portuguese Forum also not.
Portugal and Spain have different dimensions, if we had a neighbor like Greece, Hungary or Netherlands, all right, would be balanced, but Spain is 5x larger than Portugal in area and 4x in population. The distribution of games will be extremely in favor of Spain, naturally. After all, the event will only have 3 stadiums in Portugal (Estádio da Luz and Estádio de Alvalade in Lisbon, Estádio do Dragăo in Porto). If we had Coimbra and the Algarve for example it was better, but not even that. I'm totally against.
Check it from this point of view, you wont have to do a big investment you will have the same publicity as Spain cause Portugal's name will appear as much as spanish + you will see some good football. Otherwise you won't have anything in a really long period of time...

Think about it. This or nothing... Nothing is not too much eh?
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I don't want Portugal/Spain to win this bid. Like it has already been said, Spain is around 5x bigger than Portugal and will receive the bulk of the games. I'd prefer to see Portugal do a World Cup alone in the future.

Also can someone tell me why Spain even agreed to do a joint bid? They are perfectly capable of hosting a World Cup by themselves.
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